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Post by rincon Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:58 pm

sportsczy wrote:
futbol wrote:Mehdrid fans trying to downplay him now. Laughing

He has been injured, other than that he was far and away PSG's MVP. 15 goals and 7 assists in 16 games in the league and 5 goals and 2 assists in 6 group stages games, leading the decisive victory against Liverpool in a must-win game, before he got injured.

He is an utter clown, unlikeable character, but that never really interfered with his on the pitch performances.

You thought your transfer window was dope because of sideflag dribbling Hazard. Now Nerman is coming home to resurrect MSN with a G on top of it. rofl

Jovic, Benzema, Hazard vs. Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Griezmann. Children against men. Bah gawd.

Yeah...  and Mbappe had 39 goals and 17 assists in 43 games... with 4 goals and 5 assists in 8 CL games.  Mbappe did this with no Neymar (only 14 games together) or Cavani (only 10 games together) next to him.  All on his own as the only scoring threat and everyone knew it.  Mouta-Choping was his attacking partner many a time lol.

Tell me again who was the best player?

Neymar

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Post by Valkyrja Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:10 pm

It's pretty clear who is the better footballer between Neymar and Mbappe and it's not even about age. They are basically lesser versions of Messi and CR respectively
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:25 pm

Except Mbappe put CR's stats at 20 years old to shame... CR had 6 goals total the year he turned 20 and 12 the year her turned 21.
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Post by Doc Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:56 pm

Ronaldo was a winger (and was played like one too in his early years) in a very difficult league with a team that SAF didn't yet get all his pieces together but sure, let's compare without context.

Also, Mbappe was PSG's best performing player when all is said and done but Neymar is still the real fulcrum of the team, well, the attacking 3rd. If he is sold, I would actually feel interested in seeing how things look without him.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:29 pm

sportsczy wrote:Except Mbappe put CR's stats at 20 years old to shame... CR had 6 goals total the year he turned 20 and 12 the year her turned 21.


CR is very much the reason Mbappe plays the way he does, as do most young players nowadays who benefit from the tactical changes influenced by Messi and CR

In essence he is not even close to CR as a footballer. Technically Mbappe is average compared to CR, he can't keep the ball in tight spaces, isn't anywhere near as good a header and have you seen him try shoot with his left ? Atroucious Laughing

He's pretty much a very fast inzaghi and his ceiling isn't that high compared to other players his age because he's not that good at things that can hardly be improved

He might be one of the best attackers of his generation but not some insane talent that can mark an era which Neymar could be if not for his mentality
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:19 pm

imo, Mbappe's game is most similar to R9, not CR.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:48 pm

sportsczy wrote:imo, Mbappe's game is most similar to R9, not CR.


Not even close R9 was a monster dribbler and finisher with plenty of creativity, he was 10 times the player
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Post by titosantill Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:10 am

i don't want barca getting neymar and/or griezmann. simple as
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:16 am

This is the most boring saga of the summer. Very predictable so far. Hoping there's nothing to it in the end.
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Post by Casciavit Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:56 am

Barca fans thinking signing Neymar will win them the CL rofl

Let me get this straight...

When you had MSN in their PRIME you only won 1 CL in 3 years.

Yet I'm supposed to believe Messi who has the stamina of 80 year-old chain smoking grandpa, Neymar who was more relevant for his rape case than his actual football in the last two years, and a fat Suarez who has to chase after his every first touch is going to help them win the CL. rofl

GTFO.

MSN's attacking dynamics died in 2016 when Neymar decided he wanted to become more of a protagonist than a glorified outlet. But Barca fans want you to believe that an injury-prone Nerman who has become a bigger individualist than ever before is going to change things? Laughing

Will MSN win Barca La Liga? Yup.

Will MSN score more than 100 goals throughout the season? Probably.

Will MSN win Barca the CL? HELL NO.



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Post by Clutch Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:08 am

Totally agree...Still dont want neymar to go there though. Griezmann can go for all I care but Neymar can go wherever as long as it's not Barca

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Post by NeganIsco Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:13 am

Clutch wrote:Ngl, if Barca get griezmann and Neymar, we definitely winning 0 trophies next year. They have 4 goal scores who will be better than anyone on madrid Laughing


Ya just like Madrid won 7 la ligas in a row when it had Ronaldo, Raul, Zidane & Figo huh?

Football is way more complicated than just buying best players and putting them on the pitch together and see what happens...

This ain't basketball....

First, those 4 can't even play together at the same time, ...

Second, even if they did, Barca fullbacks and midfield will always be outnumbered and destroyed often as none of those "big name" forwards would ever track back...

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Post by NeganIsco Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:17 am

Neymar coming back to barca to be Messi's bitchh again? Laughing

Messi's face when instead of passing the ball to him, Neymar dribbles until he either gets knocked out for showing off.... or takes a long shot that goes off target Laughing

This is NOT the same Neymar that left barcelona, this guy got a massive ego-boost whilst in France

This is no longer a 21 yr old Santos boy, new to Europe... hungry to impress and pass at every instance to Messi and Co...

Messi and Neymar's conflict would dwarf the conflict Neymar has with Cavani nowadays Laughing
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:51 am

Neymar and Messi are great friends. They have NEVER had any altercation and their on-pitch chemistry was nothing short of fantastic.

But yeah, believe what you want to believe kid.
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Post by danyjr Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:06 am

Casciavit wrote:Barca fans thinking signing Neymar will win them the CL rofl
They weren't far off winning it last season with Coutinho had it not been for that Anfield freak show.
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Post by Thimmy Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:44 am

NeganIsco wrote:Neymar coming back to barca to be Messi's bitchh again? Laughing

Messi's face when instead of passing the ball to him, Neymar dribbles until he either gets knocked out for showing off.... or takes a long shot that goes off target Laughing

This is NOT the same Neymar that left barcelona, this guy got a massive ego-boost whilst in France

This is no longer a 21 yr old Santos boy, new to Europe... hungry to impress and pass at every instance to Messi and Co...

Messi and Neymar's conflict would dwarf the conflict Neymar has with Cavani nowadays Laughing


To be fair to him, his synergy with Messi and Suarez was great, the last time he was there. As for Neymar somehow changing or having his ego permanently boosted during his relatively short stint with PSG, that's nothing but farfetched speculation. Speculation. The favorite word of this forum. He does seem like a self-centered prick, but we have no reason to believe that he would return to Barca, just to start more drama. If he does, I doubt he'll have many suitors left.
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Post by jibers Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:03 am

Casciavit wrote:Barca fans thinking signing Neymar will win them the CL rofl

Let me get this straight...

When you had MSN in their PRIME you only won 1 CL in 3 years.

Yet I'm supposed to believe Messi who has the stamina of 80 year-old chain smoking grandpa, Neymar who was more relevant for his rape case than his actual football in the last two years, and a fat Suarez who has to chase after his every first touch is going to help them win the CL. rofl

GTFO.

MSN's attacking dynamics died in 2016 when Neymar decided he wanted to become more of a protagonist than a glorified outlet. But Barca fans want you to believe that an injury-prone Nerman who has become a bigger individualist than ever before is going to change things? Laughing

Will MSN win Barca La Liga? Yup.

Will MSN score more than 100 goals throughout the season? Probably.

Will MSN win Barca the CL? HELL NO.





Spot on. Barca had MSN for 3 years and only reached the cl sfs once.

They will walk laliga again with or without him but i doubt they will win the cl with Messi in that team tbh.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:45 am

The most important thing is that perhaps Barca will be watchable again...... Who cares about trophies when you get bored to death by the performances. I prefer more attractive football and less trophies.
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Post by jibers Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:47 pm

Myesyats wrote:The most important thing is that perhaps Barca will be watchable again...... Who cares about trophies when you get bored to death by the performances. I prefer more attractive football and less trophies.


Will be surprised if anything changes. Valverde will still funnel the team through a Messi that covers 5m a season. You can only play a 442 with to keep the team balanced because of Messi. Maybe if he actually does a bit of work off the ball in terms of movement and pressing then the team can evolve a bit more.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:57 pm

Yeah exactly. The problem is Valverde not the lack of Neymar.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:38 pm

I know but having Neymar instead of Coutinho/Malcom helps, wouldn't you agree?

One step at a time.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:36 pm

No because we are still playing defensive 442 that's boring af. Coutinho can be entertaining too, he was at Liverpool
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Post by danyjr Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:01 pm

Entertaining or not, Neymar is better than Coutinho at just about everything.

However, Neymar is a *bleep* and he will drag your whole team down like he did PSG's.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:56 pm

You do realize people behave differently in different circumnstances? Neymar won't act in Barca the same as he did at PSG. Different environment, different behavior.
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Post by titosantill Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:26 pm

danyjr wrote:Entertaining or not, Neymar is better than Coutinho at just about everything.

However, Neymar is a *bleep* and he will drag your whole team down like he did PSG's.


i'm not sure how he dragged psg down. yeah he's a diva, but they still won the league with both eyes closed. and the competition they flopped in, neymar didn't play in that loss
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Post by futbol Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:58 am

Casciavit wrote:Barca fans thinking signing Neymar will win them the CL rofl

Let me get this straight...

When you had MSN in their PRIME you only won 1 CL in 3 years.

Yet I'm supposed to believe Messi who has the stamina of 80 year-old chain smoking grandpa, Neymar who was more relevant for his rape case than his actual football in the last two years, and a fat Suarez who has to chase after his every first touch is going to help them win the CL. rofl

GTFO.

MSN's attacking dynamics died in 2016 when Neymar decided he wanted to become more of a protagonist than a glorified outlet. But Barca fans want you to believe that an injury-prone Nerman who has become a bigger individualist than ever before is going to change things? Laughing

Will MSN win Barca La Liga? Yup.

Will MSN score more than 100 goals throughout the season? Probably.

Will MSN win Barca the CL? HELL NO.





There is no way we won't score an away goal with Neymar running the counterattacks. Our lack of speed and counter threat upfront has killed us the last 2 years away from home. Press Barca hard on your home soil and who is going to threaten on the break? Coutinho? Slow Suarez? DMessi? Neymar is exactly what we are missing. Of course there is no guarantee for CL success but adding Griezmann, Neymar and De Jong comes a long way to solve our issues. Laughing

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