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Post by Myesyats on Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:47 am

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:I just hope with every fiber of my being that one day, hopefully very soon, Bayern will sign all those mercenaries that hans so desperately and blindly support, all those Pogbas and Dembelés, just to see the look of horror on hans' face and bask in his agony as Bayern slowly delves towards a slow, trophyless and gruesome death.

You have to pay for all these years of you popping up out of the blue to defend overrated and overpriced mercenaries in front of an angry, suffering and disappointed fanbase.

Truer words have never been spoken

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:40 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:I just hope with every fiber of my being that one day, hopefully very soon, Bayern will sign all those mercenaries that hans so desperately and blindly support, all those Pogbas and Dembelés, just to see the look of horror on hans' face and bask in his agony as Bayern slowly delves towards a slow, trophyless and gruesome death.

You have to pay for all these years of you popping up out of the blue to defend overrated and overpriced mercenaries in front of an angry, suffering and disappointed fanbase.


Seriously, take a breath and think about what is happening:

@Glory links to an item on a website called the "Strettynews" citing the website SportWitness citing a Spanish radio show called "Tiempo de Juego" citing "sources within Old Trafford" who claim that Paul Pogba is fit but "refusing to play for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer".
(never mind Solskjaer was already Pogba's coahc in Man Utd's youth...) You think this is an accurate report? Laughing
You think this kind of item is worth being taken as the basis for condemning the character of a player at your club?

Get a grip people. You millenials grew up with the internet, unlike me, how the fuck is it possible you guys have no media competency whatsoever?


also, Dembélé
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Post by Glory on Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:09 pm



https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-united-news-pogba-raiola-17453787.amp?

Suddenly he wants to stay. rofl Cos guess why. No bloody soul want him anymore for the reported money. His stock is lower than ever and his cnut of an agent knows they are in trouble. So, ya playing the good boy and loyalty card now. Proud
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:36 pm

Renew his contract until 2024, glory, please. Otherwise he'll come to Madrid this summer.

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Post by Firenze on Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:41 pm

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Post by Nishankly on Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:40 pm

Sell him worse than Lallana
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:00 pm

So far return of la brujera

Can someone explains to me why he is no longer playing? Is he really injured? Is he broken?

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Post by Firenze on Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:30 pm

hopefully it's all a prelude to him being sold in Jan, curt price to Madrid? any chatter in the media over in Spain? 65M + some shitter like Asensio or Isco IMO
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Post by Doc on Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:36 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:So far return of la brujera

Can someone explains to me why he is no longer playing? Is he really injured? Is he broken?

Aside from being not really effective for Utd, he is injured according to Ole. A reoccurring ankle issue. Personally, could be a complete lie and Ole may just be not using him at all.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:49 pm

Nah Pogba would be playing if he were fit

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:50 pm

Nothing in the media about Pogba because United are not trying to sell. I expect they will pick up his contract for an extra year. Not worth us spending more than 50 mil on him at this point but it's all about Zidane's opinion here. Although it was nice to see him vote for Kante ahead of Pogba in his top 5 for 2019

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Post by Thimmy on Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:19 pm

Pogba to Real Madrid injanuary for 300m confirmed. Rift between Ole and Pogba confirmed. Read it on the wall of a train. Real Madrid will win the CL with Pogba confirmed.

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Post by M99 on Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:03 pm

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/31/mino-raiola-promises-stop-sending-players-manchester-united-11980208/amp/

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Post by Doc on Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:09 pm

Paul needs a team and a club, one like the first Juventus
Then Raiola should have kept him at Juventus but hey, the want for more money can sometimes lead to illogical decisions.

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Post by sportsczy on Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:23 pm

Man U is traded on the stock market. They actually do need to answer for their expenses and business decisions. Raiola and Pogba are, in a slick way, forcing the move. Man U can't keep spending that kind of money for a player who is not on the team sheet.

Like Lukaku and Sanchez, he'll get sold in the summer and happily resume his career somewhere else.

I expect Pogba to show up mid to end Feb so he can pick up games and form going into the Euro AND to show he's healthy for his potential destinations.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:33 am

apparently he needs surgery... https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jan/02/paul-pogba-manchester-united-foot-opeartion?CMP=share_btn_tw

this is starting to sound like crooked 101, would probably be smart to stay away

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Post by sportsczy on Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:52 am

It's minor. He's supposed to be back in about 4 weeks or less (they say up to 4 weeks away). Likely playing release scar tissue that needs to be taken out. If the surgery was fixing anything muscular or structural, he'd be out several months.

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Post by Thimmy on Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:44 am

I’ve hardly seen him play this season. He was decent to good against Newcastle and Watford about a week ago, quite good against Arsenal - which he always is, for some reason, extraordinarily poor against Crystal Palace I believe it was, earlier in the season. Has it been an issue with his ankle all along? As much as I think he’s unreliable, they likely would’ve benefitted a lot from fielding him against Arsenal today.

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Post by sportsczy on Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:44 am

Pogba played early in the season (6 games all season total) and they later found he had a hairline fracture on the big toe of his right foot to go along with ankle issue.

The healing of the bone took several months... and they couldn't test the ankle until the bone healed.

Raiola went on a rampage yesterday, saying the club would even ruin Pele or Diego Maradona. The problem Pogba and Raiola have is that Man U doctors cleared him to play... and when he felt pain, he had to go get a 2nd opinion apart from Man U. These doctors found the problem (loose cartilage in his ankle apparently) and Man U agreed. That's why it only takes 3-4 weeks. They just need to take out the loose bodies causing inflammation and pain.

This is headed for an almost certain divorce over the summer. Man U will be lucky to get 80 mil for him... and they'll take it imo.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:55 am

lol man united will pick up the option to extend his contract in the summer. So unless a club is willing to pay a king's ransom for Pogba, he is staying at United another year imo

Raiola can't do anything about it, he can talk talk and talk but it's not gonna change a single thing.

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Post by sportsczy on Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:16 pm

if they pick up the option Nick, they would only have 2 years left this summer.  His deal is until 30.06.2021 with an option to add 1 year.

Man U won't wait until the last year.  His value would drop like a rock AND he may just refuse transfer so he can cash in.  They'll either extend him or sell him this summer.

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Post by titosantill on Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:36 pm

Madrid should in the summer offer 25 million and see what utd says. If interested we shouldnt approach it like we are the desperate party. Dont offer anything remotely close to his release fee. After all it's not like he is the best cmf in the world, and both parties look like they want this to end. So make a really low offer and see what happens. If they say no, there are other options. He isnt pele or maradonal
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Post by sportsczy on Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:47 pm

I think he pretty much is the best CM in the world... but that's just my opinion. I see the difference in how France NT plays without him; even with guys like Kante, Ndombele, Tolisso, etc. to take his spot. Night and day.

Even at Man U. As much as he was criticized, they literally have nothing in the middle now. All they can hope for is a ball over the top for one of Martial or Rashford to run onto. You take that away and Man U can't do a single thing.

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Post by Firenze on Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:51 pm

@titosantill wrote:Madrid should in the summer offer 25 million and see what utd says. If interested we shouldnt approach it like we are the desperate party. Dont offer anything remotely close to his release fee. After all it's not like he is the best cmf in the world, and both parties look like they want this to end. So make a really low offer and see what happens. If they say no, there are other options. He isnt pele or maradonal


25M LMAO. Spanish clubs are wild. That doesn't even get you Danny Drinkwater nowadays. Relax. Pogba could not play the reason of the season and we get 65-70M for him easy.

You can have him btw. Fred's already been better than him and he only started performing 8 weeks ago.
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Post by Thimmy on Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:19 pm

@sportsczy wrote:

Even at Man U.   As much as he was criticized, they literally have nothing in the middle now.  All they can hope for is a ball over the top for one of Martial or Rashford to run onto.  You take that away and Man U can't do a single thing.


I’m sure I’ve said this a thousand times before, but it doesn’t matter how talented he is when he spends the larger part of a season playing on a level so far off his highest potential, that you never know whether he’s going to be more useful than an average talent CM... or worse. Even some of the 30+ year old scrubs who play in my backyard league, manage to look relatively good for our NT on occasion.

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Post by sportsczy on Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:50 pm

Football is not a game where you can play at an elite level with C players around you unless you're a fullback or goalkeeper (low dependency on other players). Just can't do it.

There's a reason Pogba looks like an absolute beast on NT with top players around him and with Juve when he had top players... and then looks average at Man U. He's a CM. It's a position that is most impacted by everything...

If he wasn't such a god with France, I'd agree with you.

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