GAME OF THRONES - PART 9 - *NO BOOK TALK - READ THE RULES*

RealGunner wrote:I kinda settled in the end with whatever was coming. It was terrible writing but I tried to not let it affect me much.

It was emotional in the end. Specially the stark montage. I absolutely loved the Sansa scene and she was my favourite character over the years so it was really good to see her get what she deserved.

Jon had a bittersweet ending. I mean eventhough the show didn't really make a big deal out of Daenerys dying (everyone kinda forgot) but in the end Jon killed someone he loved and saw his 2nd love die in his arms.

But i think the writing was already there. His relationship with Mance was special (both books and TV show). Everyone just assumed Jon is the heir to the iron throne but i think GRRM always wanted him to be the heir to Mance Ryder. The king beyond the wall. That suits Jon a lot more than King of 7 kingdoms.

Going to miss this show. Not really keen on the spin offs.

One second from every episode of Game of Thrones. pic.twitter.com/rFz2CFLwBx

— Andy Kelly (@ultrabrilliant) May 20, 2019

M99 wrote:

One second from every episode of Game of Thrones. pic.twitter.com/rFz2CFLwBx

— Andy Kelly (@ultrabrilliant) May 20, 2019

Freeza wrote:My tier 1 shows of the last 20 years are

The Wire
Fleabag
The Sopranos
The Leftovers
30 Rock

So hard for even the truly great shows to stick a landing, which is why I appreciate all the listed shows. Dexter would've been there if not for the worst ending of any series ever.

Don't call me James wrote:Tbh it's no surprise Freeza has awful taste. He ranked Fallout as the best movie of 2018.

30 Rock and Fleabag in his top 5 all time

I can't take seriously any list without Breaking Bad.

M99 wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

M99 wrote:Oberyn's death was not just for shock value. It had a purpose in the story. The Dorne storyline starts because of it. But D&D decided to change Doran into a weakling who wants no war or vengeance and scrapped his daughter because they liked Indira Varma and wanted her to take a bigger role. And then after the backlash they quickly killed off the storyline in one episode and focused on the Ironborn (Doran's actor said he was originally supposed to be in six episodes in season 6 and writers said they had to choose between Ironborn and Done in season 5). GRRM does not go for shock value for nothing. It was up to the writers to replace the characters killed with interesting characters but Elia, Sand Snakes, Euron were just horribly written.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyanTVqlJ2o

They literally said they chose Arya instead of Jon because it would be more of a surprise, and in season 5 they said they had Sansa get raped because it would be more "shocking"

Its not just new characters that were bad. Existing characters went to shit too. Jaime was Cersei's lapdog, Littlefinger stopped being smart, Varys became boring, and Tyrion went to "I drink and I know things"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2segM3PA6AI

Sand snakes and euron suck in the books too, just point out. They might turn good or might not, but they're pretty cartoony there too

Disagree on Euron. And I'm not in the minority either, he's a fan favorite. Even the actor came out and said he wished he was like the book Euron.

Sand Snakes, yes they totally come off as anime characters but the little we saw of them they are much better than their show counterparts. At least their dialogue was not shitty. Besides they were really not main chars, it was Arianne and Doran. Writers decided to scrap one character and totally change the other.

Don't call me James wrote:Tbh it's no surprise Freeza has awful taste. He ranked Fallout as the best movie of 2018.

30 Rock and Fleabag in his top 5 all time

I can't take seriously any list without Breaking Bad.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Freeza wrote:My tier 1 shows of the last 20 years are

The Wire
Fleabag
The Sopranos
The Leftovers
30 Rock

So hard for even the truly great shows to stick a landing, which is why I appreciate all the listed shows. Dexter would've been there if not for the worst ending of any series ever.

You finished watching Fleabag like 4 days ago and already consider it better than GOT?

Don't call me James wrote:Tbh it's no surprise Freeza has awful taste. He ranked Fallout as the best movie of 2018.

30 Rock and Fleabag in his top 5 all time

I can't take seriously any list without Breaking Bad.

Freeza wrote:
@Kaladin
Great way to act. Never once said a negative thing about you, so I'd appreciate if you actually addressed whichever problem you've got with me.

Kaladin wrote:

Freeza wrote:
@Kaladin
Great way to act. Never once said a negative thing about you, so I'd appreciate if you actually addressed whichever problem you've got with me.

Its banter

Doc wrote:Why are you always late to a GoT season? Also, yes, finish it.

urbaNRoots wrote:

M99 wrote:Disagree on Euron. And I'm not in the minority either, he's a fan favorite. Even the actor came out and said he wished he was like the book Euron.

Sand Snakes, yes they totally come off as anime characters but the little we saw of them they are much better than their show counterparts. At least their dialogue was not shitty. Besides they were really not main chars, it was Arianne and Doran. Writers decided to scrap one character and totally change the other.

Euron in the books is basically a comic book villain, evil magical pirate guy with an eye patch lol. Sure that‘s still better than what we got in the show but not much better.

The reason why the last two books suck is because GRRM introduced these characters and wanted to expand the world instead of trying to come to a conclusion. Not sure how GRRM thought it would be great writing to kill Tywin, Catelyn, Robb, Joffrey, The Hound etc in ASOS, only to replace them with these over the top characters who don‘t fit this story.

McLewis wrote:I'm glad this show has ended. I personally don't think D&D taking HBO's offer of 2 extra episodes would've made a difference given that the show has been declining for 4 whole seasons now. 2 episodes wouldn't have changed that.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

urbaNRoots wrote:

M99 wrote:Disagree on Euron. And I'm not in the minority either, he's a fan favorite. Even the actor came out and said he wished he was like the book Euron.

Sand Snakes, yes they totally come off as anime characters but the little we saw of them they are much better than their show counterparts. At least their dialogue was not shitty. Besides they were really not main chars, it was Arianne and Doran. Writers decided to scrap one character and totally change the other.

Euron in the books is basically a comic book villain, evil magical pirate guy with an eye patch lol. Sure that‘s still better than what we got in the show but not much better.

The reason why the last two books suck is because GRRM introduced these characters and wanted to expand the world instead of trying to come to a conclusion. Not sure how GRRM thought it would be great writing to kill Tywin, Catelyn, Robb, Joffrey, The Hound etc in ASOS, only to replace them with these over the top characters who don‘t fit this story.

Yeah exactly. There was anything deep about him, there were certainly mysterious things about him but nothing to suggest that he will turn into a GOAT character like some people here act. Might be biased as I hated the Iron Islands subplot (THREE new POVS George! Come one, show some discipline!), which people either generally hated or found good for comic relief, but no one really liked.

The actor wishing we got Book Euron doesn't make Book Euron good, just better than the show, which ain't much.