Re: Mbappe is the biggest fraud in football today.

by sportsczy Tue 24 Dec 2019, 16:52

Actually, Madrid have told Man U they won't pay more than 90 mil for Pogba and Man U want 130 mil lol. But that will come down soon. His contract runs out in 2022. So either they sell for a good price this summer or the price drops DRASTICALLY in 2021. He'll only be 29 then too. He's 26 right now and will turn 27 in March.

by sportsczy Tue 24 Dec 2019, 16:55

In any case, he takes over scoring in European football in 2020 bar any injuries. He scored 41 goals despite being out 10 weeks for injury (hamstring 2 times).

If he can keep himself healthy, he scores 50-60.

by S Sun 02 Feb 2020, 05:10

PSG manager Tuchel substituted Mbappe earlier today and he was absolutely fuming with the decision.

This isn't good at all, just a reminder that Mbappe still hasn't signed a new contract with PSG. pic.twitter.com/djRngUpyCD
— FutbolBible (@FutbolBible) February 1, 2020

His antics are getting worse than Neymar

The utter lack of respect for your coach is appalling.

It is also kinda sad and annoying to see Tuchel acting like a beta though

You are cruising to a victory, subbed your striker off which you thought was a fair decision. There is no need to give an explanation ffs. The player should learn to respect the decision. End of.

by sportsczy Sun 02 Feb 2020, 05:38

Let's be fair... CR was EXACTLY the same way. So was Ibra (he literally yelled at managers for taking him out as did CR). All the greats are like this. Their ultra-competitiveness is what makes them who they are. You're going to try and change what makes them over-achievers?

You just don't do it. Tuchel is being stupid. This is about man-management.

You know how ZZ finally got CR to accept being subbed? He talked to him beforehand and sold him on the concept that, at his age, he needs to be conserved. He didn't dare take him out before CR bought into it.

by Valkyrja Sun 02 Feb 2020, 08:55

His problem is that he’s closer to Erling Haland than to Cristiano Ronaldo

the more I see of him the more average he looks

by Casciavit Sun 02 Feb 2020, 09:31

Can someone post a vid of CR/Zlatan visibly disrespecting their coach after they were subbed off at the end of the game while their team had a 5-0 lead.

by halamadrid2 Sun 02 Feb 2020, 10:06

Mbappe has been liking our players posts left, right and center

pic.twitter.com/81Zw0LOC09
— Blazz (@BlazzRM) February 1, 2020

It's happening lads

by The Demon of Carthage Sun 02 Feb 2020, 10:07

S wrote:
PSG manager Tuchel substituted Mbappe earlier today and he was absolutely fuming with the decision.

This isn't good at all, just a reminder that Mbappe still hasn't signed a new contract with PSG. pic.twitter.com/djRngUpyCD
— FutbolBible (@FutbolBible) February 1, 2020

His antics are getting worse than Neymar

The utter lack of respect for your coach is appalling.

It is also kinda sad and annoying to see Tuchel acting like a beta though

You are cruising to a victory, subbed your striker off which you thought was a fair decision. There is no need to give an explanation ffs. The player should learn to respect the decision. End of.

What an arrogant piece of crap. And why Tuchel is trying so hard to make him understand why he subbed him? Fck him, he's just a kid. If he doesn't like it, he can bang his head against a thousand walls.

I hope Madrid doesn't go after him.

by halamadrid2 Sun 02 Feb 2020, 10:21

Tuchel is a try hard. Nobody wants to get subbed out whether you are Mbappe or Lingard. As a coach you have to understand the player will be frustrated when he gets hauled off. You don't attempt to console him infront of thousands of people. Let him sulk on the bench and get on with it.

PSG is the wild west where their stars are treated like kings. There has to be some level of leadership or their stars will continue their petulant behaviour

Even Barca only bow down to Messi. Bayern don't let any player feck them about. Juve too pre-Ronaldo. Perez told Ronaldo to close the door behind him when he got too annoying.

Nasser has to be in control here. Both Neymar and Mbappe act bigger than the club. Which is disrespectful to the rest of their teammates, coach and fans

Everyone knows Tuchel is a beta manager but the club is just letting them air it out in public which wont bode well when they are up against a wall and asked to work as a team. These primadonnas are the first to down tools when the going gets tough because they know there will be teams waiting for them if they ever want to jump the ship. Veratti alluded to the same last season when Utd beat them

by Valkyrja Sun 02 Feb 2020, 11:05

I just hope QSG don’t let him go. I do not want him

by Myesyats Sun 02 Feb 2020, 11:14

Unreal. He is already, by and large, worse than Neymar attitude-wise. What a spoiled brat. Perfect fit for Madrid alongside fatty Eden hahahaha

by halamadrid2 Sun 02 Feb 2020, 11:21

How is a spoilt brat a perfect fit for Madrid hmm

Spoilt brats dont last long in our team. Because both Perez and Zidane are in control

I think he'll be great for us. Much better than the RWs we have right now. He will bring us goals

by Myesyats Sun 02 Feb 2020, 11:43

They'll probably ask something ridiculous like 250m for him. Is Perez willing to pay that for one turtle?

by halamadrid2 Sun 02 Feb 2020, 11:56

That's why I doubt it'll happen this coming summer. His deal runs out in 2022, we'd get a much better deal if we got him on his last year

Perez wont be paying over 150M + bonuses for noone

by titosantill Sun 02 Feb 2020, 15:01

its part of football, stars have yelled in frustration when they get subbed. hell its part of sports, larry brown said everytime he subbed AI out, ai cursed at him. as sports mentioned many of these type of player have that kind of reaction when being subbed, its part of their greatness, they feel the team is better when their on the floor. even kobe i remember a game he was taken out of (and whether it was frustration of his team or him being subbed), he attempted to punch the bench, but he didn't notice his teammate was sitting there and he punched the guys knee instead. happens everyday in sports especially with top players

by The Demon of Carthage Sun 02 Feb 2020, 15:13

titosantill wrote:its part of football, stars have yelled in frustration when they get subbed. hell its part of sports, larry brown said everytime he subbed AI out, ai cursed at him. as sports mentioned many of these type of player have that kind of reaction when being subbed, its part of their greatness, they feel the team is better when their on the floor. even kobe i remember a game he was taken out of (and whether it was frustration of his team or him being subbed), he attempted to punch the bench, but he didn't notice his teammate was sitting there and he punched the guys knee instead. happens everyday in sports especially with top players

tito, you're not seriously comparing Kobe to Mbappé, are you? The kid hasn't done enough to warrant such behavior. He's not even the best player in his own team.

21 years old and he's already this entitled? No humility whatsoever and total disrespect to his own coach? I can only imagine how intolerable and obnoxious he'll become at 27.

I can understand such behavior from a global superstar like Ronaldo or Messi, but this kid? His talent and age aren't great enough to warrant such arrogance.

At his age and experience, he should keep his head down, learn and keep his mouth shut. But I guess the French media has blown too much smoke up his ass and now he believes he's as good as Ronaldo and Messi.

by Arquitecto Sun 02 Feb 2020, 15:40

By far the most embarrassing part of the video is Tuchel attempting to hold on to Mbappe like a soy-laden simp to justify his choice. Pathetic and weak display.

Mbappe is just ultra competitive even he if he has gotten way too big a head in scoring goals for fun in what is not too competitive of a league but but anyone who's been even semi-pro in athletics knows how frustrating it is to be subbed off like that.

by sportsczy Sun 02 Feb 2020, 17:29

Casciavit wrote:Can someone post a vid of CR/Zlatan visibly disrespecting their coach after they were subbed off at the end of the game while their team had a 5-0 lead.

Ronaldo. Only difference is that manager didn't hold him up and try to explain. Let him go to the bench and blow steam:

Here's more from various stars:

by sportsczy Sun 02 Feb 2020, 17:31

The Demon of Carthage wrote:
titosantill wrote:its part of football, stars have yelled in frustration when they get subbed. hell its part of sports, larry brown said everytime he subbed AI out, ai cursed at him. as sports mentioned many of these type of player have that kind of reaction when being subbed, its part of their greatness, they feel the team is better when their on the floor. even kobe i remember a game he was taken out of (and whether it was frustration of his team or him being subbed), he attempted to punch the bench, but he didn't notice his teammate was sitting there and he punched the guys knee instead. happens everyday in sports especially with top players

tito, you're not seriously comparing Kobe to Mbappé, are you? The kid hasn't done enough to warrant such behavior. He's not even the best player in his own team.

21 years old and he's already this entitled? No humility whatsoever and total disrespect to his own coach? I can only imagine how intolerable and obnoxious he'll become at 27.

I can understand such behavior from a global superstar like Ronaldo or Messi, but this kid? His talent and age aren't great enough to warrant such arrogance.

At his age and experience, he should keep his head down, learn and keep his mouth shut. But I guess the French media has blown too much smoke up his ass and now he believes he's as good as Ronaldo and Messi.

Kobe did this at 18 years old when he wasn't even playing in his first year and every year thereafter... that's why Shaq and he didn't get along. He was an alpha from the moment he stepped on the floor. Same with Mbappe.

He doesn't give a shit what you think. As far as he's concerned, he's the best player and doesn't' want to waste a single second off the floor.

by urbaNRoots Sun 02 Feb 2020, 18:08

Love that Tuchel keeps subbing him despite the many tantrums thrown. Laughing

by Arquitecto Sun 02 Feb 2020, 18:12

Cannot wait for the next time he subs Mbappe and sends a paragraphed apology letter to the kid right after.

Never want to hear comparisons on Klopp to him again.

by sportsczy Sun 02 Feb 2020, 18:22

Arquitecto wrote:Cannot wait for the next time he subs Mbappe and sends a paragraphed apology letter to the kid right after.

Never want to hear comparisons on Klopp to him again.

See how SAF, Klopp, etc. walk away from the confrontation when they see that CR, etc. are annoyed for being subbed. They don't hold the player back and try to engage in a conversation.

Just ridiculous. The kid is pissed off and isn't looking for anything other than going to the bench. He's not talking or moving towards the manager. He's trying to leave.

This whole thing is manufactured by Tuchel.

by Mamad Sun 02 Feb 2020, 18:32

This things happen. not a big deal.

by urbaNRoots Sun 02 Feb 2020, 18:39

Arquitecto wrote:Cannot wait for the next time he subs Mbappe and sends a paragraphed apology letter to the kid right after.

Never want to hear comparisons on Klopp to him again.

I didn‘t know he apologized ever to any player for taking him off. I‘d like to see that if there‘s evidence. I remember him from the Dortmund days where he didn‘t take shit from players.

We can‘t hear the conversation but it looks more like he‘s telling Mbappe to grow a pair and stop throwing tantrums all over the place like a 5 year who is taken away his favourite toy rather than apologizing (lol).

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun 02 Feb 2020, 18:42

No idea what the current convo is but Mbappe is a fraud still until i deem otherwise imo.

by Arquitecto Sun 02 Feb 2020, 18:45

urbaNRoots wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:Cannot wait for the next time he subs Mbappe and sends a paragraphed apology letter to the kid right after.

Never want to hear comparisons on Klopp to him again.

I didn‘t know he apologized ever to any player for taking him off. I‘d like to see that if there‘s evidence. I remember him from the Dortmund days where he didn‘t take shit from players.

We can‘t hear the conversation but it looks more like he‘s telling Mbappe to grow a pair and stop throwing tantrums all over the place like a 5 year who is taken away his favourite toy rather than apologizing (lol).

Dortmund at his time had stars not a percentile of what Tuchel has in the form of PSG with Neymar and Mbappe in terms of star and political power, both whom he has shown to be weak in handling them and Mbappe more than once beyond. PSG is a nouveau riche that seems to let such things slide as it is. For all I know they can be discussing tonight's team meal but the body language and previous instances that were similar just lead to the obvious.

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