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Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:18 pm

In recent history we bought Modric, Kroos, Xabi, Khedira. All of these guys went straight into the starting XI.

Besides, this logic of using knowledge of prior purchasing is a bit faulty considering Zidane has more purchasing power than any manager bar Mourinho has in the past. If ZZ believes we needs these types of players like I think we do, and he has the money that I think he does, we will buy these types of players.

Ultimately, if the reports are to be trusted that we have about 300m + player sales, there are going to be about as many changes as we saw in 2009. So don't expect Fede to be starting next season.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:40 pm


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Post by futbol_bill on Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:57 pm

I don’t mind if they go and buy Mendy and Ndombele. What I’m questioning is the theme in here by some that they come in as backup, thereby improving bench strength while challenging starters. I just don’t but that. It’s difficult to obtain good players that are capable of starting and expect them to ride the bench! What I think the objectives are is to improve the front line / more goal scoring capabilities and improving midfield.

I feel the signings of Hazard and Jovic, the arrival of Rodrygo plus probably the return of de Tomas is what we will end up for this year as far as an improved front line! So no I don’t buy that a RW is also being sought.

Then for midfield, i say they are or should be looking for replacements / improvements of Kroos, Modric and probably Isco. It does seem like at least one of Ceballos or Llorente will be gone, but I’ll bet they will bring in another kid to replacement to fill out squad. I just don’t see a guy like Ndombele coming in as a backup. Another possibility is they go with just 2 midfielders, to allow Hazard to play as AM, as Nick and Sports have suggested. If they do that then Casemiro and Valverde would be the backups!!

Similarly I feel the issue with LB is whether Marcelo stays or goes. If he goes, then Mendy would be sought, but otherwise, I don’t see him coming!

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:23 pm

Not sure that i understand your point, are you trying to predict what the signings will be? that's a waste of time because you simply will never know.

When we mentioned Ndombele and Mendy, it's because those are the type of moves we want to see. Team needs an overhaul, stronger players need to come in to compete with the players already at the club.

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Post by Doc on Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:18 pm

If we only end up with Hazard, Jovic and Rodrygo, I would personally feel the job is only half done. As we are all seeing, our midfield is in need of some serious injection of strength (mixed with talent) and Regi, bless his heart, would not be playing much with Zizou. Good talent but Zizou would have him rot in training.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:53 am

I agree Doc. I’m still holding out hope for the team I described in my 300m rebuild thread. Probably won’t get all the names I outlined, but if we got Jovic, Hazard, Ndom, and Rabiot I would say that is about the minimum I would accept to start next season.

Adding to that one of Eriksen/Pogba, plus either a RW like Pepe, converted Sane, or Salah (if ZZ opts for a 4-3-3) or a ST like Icardi, Auba, or Cavani (if ZZ opts for a 4-4-2 Zidiamond) would be absolute tops.
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Post by Thimmy on Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:49 am

No chance in hell is this true.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:22 am

of course it's fake, Asensio stock has plummeted to nothing of course his agent is trying to pump up his stock. Asesio acted like a prime beta this season
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:19 am

@Thimmy wrote:No chance in hell is this true.

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180m Laughing

That agent has no shame.
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Post by futbol_bill on Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:28 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Not sure that i understand your point, are you trying to predict what the signings will be? that's a waste of time because you simply will never know.

When we mentioned Ndombele and Mendy, it's because those are the type of moves we want to see. Team needs an overhaul, stronger players need to come in to compete with the players already at the club.



My point was to bring players to REPLACE players who have been our weaknesses.
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Post by Clutch on Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:09 pm

@Thimmy wrote:No chance in hell is this true.

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imagine accepting 100 for Ronaldo but denying 180 for Asensio

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Post by Clutch on Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:10 pm

@vanDEEZ wrote:In recent history we bought Modric, Kroos, Xabi, Khedira. All of these guys went straight into the starting XI.

Besides, this logic of using knowledge of prior purchasing is a bit faulty considering Zidane has more purchasing power than any manager bar Mourinho has in the past. If ZZ believes we needs these types of players like I think we do, and he has the money that I think he does, we will buy these types of players.

Ultimately, if the reports are to be trusted that we have about 300m + player sales, there are going to be about as many changes as we saw in 2009. So don't expect Fede to be starting next season.
yea you're right, if zidane is being in charge of who he wants

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:06 pm

Think Real 19/20 will line up like this

   Benzema
Hazard
Theo Pogba Casemiro Vasquez
Marcelo Ramos Varane Carvajal
Navas
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:07 pm

aight fam, imma rescind your invitation smdh
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:49 pm

@Clutch wrote:Lmao @ ndombele and mendy. Why are they even being discussed? They're not coming here
this is why we talk about him :coffee:

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Post by Clutch on Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:00 pm

Is this a Reliable source? This is my first time implementing a GL jinx so bear with me on this

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Post by Thimmy on Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:06 pm

Marca claim that we're linked to multiple, foreign players every single season, so it's hard to tell which ones are actually relevant.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:00 pm

This is relevant, article is dubbed by Carlos Carpios who is an assistant director at Marca, to my knowledge he is not bullshit artist. I would say in the realm of Madrid rumours this is near the top of well sourced info.
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Post by Cyborg on Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:44 pm

come on madrid, get Van de Beek!
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:17 pm

Van de Beek is a nice player, I am a fan too, but do we need an attacking midfielder when we are already planning to sign Hazard? Doubt it.
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Post by Cyborg on Wed May 01, 2019 7:47 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Van de Beek is a nice player, I am a fan too, but do we need an attacking midfielder when we are already planning to sign Hazard? Doubt it.


Completely different player.

His movement from midfield to in and around the box is excellent.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed May 01, 2019 8:02 am

@Cyborg wrote:
@Mr Nick09 wrote:Van de Beek is a nice player, I am a fan too, but do we need an attacking midfielder when we are already planning to sign Hazard? Doubt it.


Completely different player.

His movement from midfield to in and around the box is excellent.
yes they are different but Can de Beek is having success being the CAM in a 4231, playing behind the striker. As you said he is having success because of his movements in and around the box.

1) we are already signing Hazard, thus it's redundant to look to sign him unless you have guarantees he can operate at a elite level deeper in midfield, there is no evidence of that.
2) he is a good player but to me he lacks the quality/talent to be a potential starter for us. He doesn't appear to be a great playmaker, not a great passer, not a great dribbler. He will make a team happy, I just don't think that will be us.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed May 01, 2019 8:04 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:
@Clutch wrote:Lmao @ ndombele and mendy. Why are they even being discussed? They're not coming here
this is why we talk about him :coffee:

Spanish Madrid fans have their panty in a bunch because of this news, for what it means for Reguillon, going away on loan most likely.

I understand, he deserves to stay given how he played this season, but he is an effort guy, I am not sure there is enough raw material to make an elite fullback.
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Post by sportsczy on Wed May 01, 2019 8:53 am

We're NOT playing a 4231. You guys need to get that notion out of your head.
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Post by Cyborg on Wed May 01, 2019 9:09 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:
@Cyborg wrote:
@Mr Nick09 wrote:Van de Beek is a nice player, I am a fan too, but do we need an attacking midfielder when we are already planning to sign Hazard? Doubt it.


Completely different player.

His movement from midfield to in and around the box is excellent.
yes they are different but Can de Beek is having success being the CAM in a 4231, playing behind the striker. As you said he is having success because of his movements in and around the box.

1) we are already signing Hazard, thus it's redundant to look to sign him unless you have guarantees he can operate at a elite level deeper in midfield, there is no evidence of that.
2) he is a good player but to me he lacks the quality/talent to be a potential starter for us. He doesn't appear to be a great playmaker, not a great passer, not a great dribbler. He will make a team happy, I just don't think that will be us.


In terms of a complete midfielder, he ticks the boxes. He may not be a specialist at one skillset, but he is great at everything.

He plays as a midfielder. The team doesn't need any more deep midfielders. That has been the issue, all the midfielders in the squad are hesitant when going forward.

Signing Hazard does not improve the midfield. Don't know why that is being cited.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Wed May 01, 2019 9:42 am

So if you want van de Beek in the midfield role the question is then: would you sign van de Beek over Eriksen (who we have supposedly agreed verbal terms) or Pogba, or Ndombele?

No.

I like van de Beek, but he doesn't fit the profile of player we need. He is great on Fifa I am sure after a couple seasons but in reality he's just not near enough to the top of our list of needs.
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