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Post by rincon Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:08 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:so a few months into this competition, does anyone really care about how their country does for in it?

Yes. 100 times better than friendlies.

Watching Italy vs Portugal, Poland, Netherlands, Bosnia in competitive matches is better than Italy-Moldova, or totally rotated lineups.

Its also the second edition of the completion already btw Laughing

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Post by Thimmy Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:48 pm

Didn't anyone see the friendly match between France and Finland? Another assist for Pogba on the wrong side of the field Laughing
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:09 pm

rincon wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:so a few months into this competition, does anyone really care about how their country does for in it?

Yes. 100 times better than friendlies.

Watching Italy vs Portugal, Poland, Netherlands, Bosnia in competitive matches is better than Italy-Moldova, or totally rotated lineups.

Its also the second edition of the completion already btw Laughing
toni kroos disagrees with you. Could be that losing something like 8 games in a row is clouding his judgment tho
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Post by Warrior Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:44 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:so a few months into this competition, does anyone really care about how their country does for in it?


I would be surprised if anyone cares, and I would be surprised if anyone is able to explain how it works without looking it up.

Awful 'competition', nothing more than a money grab from UEFA to get a hold of the friendlies money

Get rid


That was my opinion for a while so i totally understand and agree your points. I don't even know the parameters of the competition and can't care less Laughing

But in the end it gives us better games during those senseless autumn breaks. So it's 50-50. The expansion of Euros/World Cup killed the magic of international football anyways.
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Post by rincon Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:56 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
rincon wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:so a few months into this competition, does anyone really care about how their country does for in it?

Yes. 100 times better than friendlies.

Watching Italy vs Portugal, Poland, Netherlands, Bosnia in competitive matches is better than Italy-Moldova, or totally rotated lineups.

Its also the second edition of the completion already btw Laughing
toni kroos disagrees with you. Could be that losing something like 8 games in a row is clouding his judgment tho

Toni Kroos probably doesn't watch the games hmm

Italy-Estonia was yesterday. A friendly game that should probably not even have been played if we are being sensible. Nation League matches >>>>>>>> Italy-Estonia
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Post by rincon Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:29 pm

This is some beautiful football going on. Completely erased Poland from the match this half.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:07 am

rincon wrote:This is some beautiful football going on. Completely erased Poland from the match this half.

Not seen the game but looking at the myestatistics I'm quite glad I didn't

So awful. Also congrats @Robes, there was hype after a couple of good games but you showed what our level truly is

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Post by Robespierre Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:58 am

yes yesterday the match was a mix between very good Italy and poor Poland.
And this match has been a spot pro VAR (there is not on Uefa Nations League) : some decisions by ref were awful
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:20 pm

I cannot emphasise how much I have been surprised by Mancio for Italia.

He is a winner no doubt and always has been and can create some interesting teams but never quite aesthetically pleasing nor focusing on youth but his Azzurri is focused on the exact duo he usually does not.


That 27 pass goal last night summed it up and its happened quite often in the last 5 games for Italia. And this was Poland who are quite an impressive team not to mention the best striker in the world in Lewandowski.

If one player had to personify Mancini's team it would be Barella, who not only is industrious and complete but extremely skilled. Has to be the best Italian player at the moment.

Bastoni was quite impressive. Ive seen little of him, anyone have thoughts on him as a whole?

But still #9s for Italia must begin to perform sooner or later or there will be huge problems in the Euros.

Either way nothing to complain about so far from his team though it means little until he big stage.
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Post by rincon Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:11 pm

IMO, for the #9, at this point go with Caputo.

Immobile can be incredible for Lazio but is still, years later, lacking for Italy. The national team plays most similarly to Sassuolo, and Caputo shines in this system. I hope Mancini would give him a run leading up to the euros to see if he can be the striker we need.

Belotti is playing at an excellent level too, somehow playing well in a terrible Torino. He has a goal per game and Torino has still only won 1 match. He was doing better than Immobile with Mancini but then got injured during a few call ups.

Bastoni was very impressive, he usually is for Inter. Basically became their 2nd CB in front of Godin and Skriniar.

Yesterday Barella was great, as always. But was he the best midfielder? Locatelli and Jorginho played similarly great. Midfield is the strength of this team. Locatelli is a complete midfielder and Jorginho is playing in exactly the setup that allows him to dominate. Barella is a necessary player for every team. What Juve has been missing since Vidal.
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Post by Onyx Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:32 pm

A technically gifted English player. :bow:


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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:22 pm

Onyx wrote:A technically gifted English player. :bow:



Video removed... was this that Grealish flick where he touched the ball over his shoulder to turn? Very nice stuff.

Anyway

Spanien:
Unai Simon - Sergi Roberto, Ramos, Pau Torres, Gaya - Rodri, Canales - Olmo, Koke, Ferran Torres - Morata

Deutschland:
Neuer - Ginter, Süle, Koch, Max - Goretzka, Kroos, Gündogan - Sané, Werner, Gnabry

Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE)
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Post by Myesyats Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:36 pm

Spain's team looks proper mediocre, lightyears apart from the 2010 team. Where is Thiago anyway?

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:42 pm

Myesyats wrote:Spain's team looks proper mediocre, lightyears apart from the 2010 team. Where is Thiago anyway?


Was injured by Richarlison in the Merseyside derby AFAIK
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:56 pm

Myesyats wrote:Spain's team looks proper mediocre, lightyears apart from the 2010 team. Where is Thiago anyway?


Yeah for a mediocre team they are out of class against the super strong Germans! Wait - what’s the score? Surely they have the wrong team with zero?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:58 pm

Spain destroying Germany, loving it :bow:

Löw is a clueless scrub, even the last fool has now understood the success s of the German NT was down to Hansi Flick being assistant, all along.
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:04 pm

Awe come on Hans. I don’t buy your post for a moment.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:15 pm

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
GOL GOL GOL GOL GOOOOOOOOOOOOOL 5-0

@Bill why not?
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:18 pm

rincon wrote:IMO, for the #9, at this point go with Caputo.

Immobile can be incredible for Lazio but is still, years later, lacking for Italy. The national team plays most similarly to Sassuolo, and Caputo shines in this system. I hope Mancini would give him a run leading up to the euros to see if he can be the striker we need.

Belotti is playing at an excellent level too, somehow playing well in a terrible Torino. He has a goal per game and Torino has still only won 1 match. He was doing better than Immobile with Mancini but then got injured during a few call ups.

Bastoni was very impressive, he usually is for Inter. Basically became their 2nd CB in front of Godin and Skriniar.

Yesterday Barella was great, as always. But was he the best midfielder? Locatelli and Jorginho played similarly great. Midfield is the strength of this team. Locatelli is a complete midfielder and Jorginho is playing in exactly the setup that allows him to dominate. Barella is a necessary player for every team. What Juve has been missing since Vidal.



Caputo I have no thoughts on as usually the big fish in small pond type players usually do not succeed for Azzurri.

I want Immobile above all to succeed because on his day he can be so far ahead of the rest a comparison is fruitless but mentally if he isn't in line he wilts and does for Italia too often now.

Belotti isn't too prolific for Italia but his general play I admire for the team yet isn't used the way he would like.


By best I mean Barella is the best Italian midfielder as a whole at the moment. Locatelli it has taken me long to admire him as I did in Milan for us but he truly has progressed into a very dynamic midfielder no doubt.

Regardless of whether Mancini fails in the Euros or not the experience for the youth will be huge for the coming years. Either way at least we will not see another gutless Ventura defeat and see what is possibly the most entertaining national team at the moment.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:19 pm

Torres has ripped Germany by the seams.

Unreal to imagine Löw winning Die Mannschaft the World Cup to this.

I am over the moon seeing this for us cheers cheers cheers
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:32 pm

LMAOOOOOOOOOO

OYARZABAL

6-0

state TV commentator having trouble keeping up the official line of promoting the product "Die Mannschaft", everytime he says something negative he feels like he has to qualify it with "as of now", "just today" Laughing
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Post by Robespierre Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:33 pm

6 -0 rofl
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:34 pm

I have a funny funny feeling

that for the first time in almost 15 years there might be serious doubt about Löw in the media going forward Proud

thank you dear @futbol_bill
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:40 pm

Not bad for such a mediocre team as Myesyats called them. And @Hans don’t call me Dear!
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Post by Myesyats Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:50 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Not bad for such a mediocre team as Myesyats called them. And @Hans don’t call me Dear!

You should be thanking me for the jinx work, this one's on me!

Can't wait to get manita'd by y'all in the EUROs group stage. #reversejinx

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Post by M99 Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:33 am



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