Why are most of Real Madrid's CLs not memorable?

just read this entire thread ffs

unreal amount of heat, don't think I've ever seen something like this before

you still make a valid point though

Casciavit wrote:just read this entire thread ffs

unreal amount of heat, don't think I've ever seen something like this before

you still make a valid point though

Yep. Cant entirely disagree with the premise of Mole's post. He does have a point.

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Casciavit wrote:just read this entire thread ffs

unreal amount of heat, don't think I've ever seen something like this before

you still make a valid point though

Yep. Cant entirely disagree with the premise of Mole's post. He does have a point.

The three CLs are memorable and all the goals & comebacks but this team itself is not. He should have worded it different! IMO

Casciavit wrote:just read this entire thread ffs

unreal amount of heat, don't think I've ever seen something like this before

you still make a valid point though

I forgot about the Wolfsburg comeback. Unreal banter after the first leg, can't believe they almost went out to those numpties then went on to win it.

though IIRC I was hyping Wolfsburg that season after they beat us in the groups lol

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

chad4401 wrote:Because Madrid brings out the salt in fans and pundits, how many finals were the team expected to lose? Like all of them:lol:, end of the day it doesn't matter how much its talk about or not, its historical and will forever be mentioned going forward.

I got chad to post again.

Thread is instantly more memorable than any of Madrid's CLs

He posted earlier this week about Benzema

Allow it.

Firenze wrote:I forgot about the Wolfsburg comeback. Unreal banter after the first leg, can't believe they almost went out to those numpties then went on to win it.

though IIRC I was hyping Wolfsburg that season after they beat us in the groups lol

and that was Wolfsburg AFTER they sold De Bruyne lmao

Mole would have made a valid point for me if it weren't totally based on his own personal point of view. In fact, he does not like Real Madrid so it's difficult to see this as just another expression of his disdain. He didn't provide anything bar saying "every time" and "everyone".

It's made even more concrete when Madrid hater no.2 Hans and kinda Madrid hater Cas agrees with it.

and why am I not Madrid hater no. 1?

I don't have an opinion tbh, the thread is based on reactions i have seen to the subject matter at hand.

This isn't my opinion, as you know full well i don't watch football so how could have an opinion about something i don't know about?

I was asking a question about a subject matter i have learnt from in the years since and used the reaction to each part to form what the general opinion was.

From what i've seen most don't remember these CLs all too well compared to their peers.

Please it's going to take another 100 years before we get a 3peat CL winner

Hapless_Hans wrote:and why am I not Madrid hater no. 1?

Mole came first so he is obviously no. 1. What's wrong with 2nd?

guest7 wrote:Please it's going to take another 100 years before we get a 3peat CL winner

Yeah I'd disagree. I can see Champions Leagues 2030-2118 being all won by Google FC tbh

Doc wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:and why am I not Madrid hater no. 1?

Mole came first so he is obviously no. 1. What's wrong with 2nd?

Coming 2nd is nothing. Makes me look like a serial loser ffs

guest7 wrote:Please it's going to take another 100 years before we get a 3peat CL winner

Achievement =/= Memorable.

Which a lot of people in this thread don't seem to get. I'm not asking the question of whether Madrid's CLs were not a great achievement.

I'm not that stupid, Nick in the Messi thread argued history remembers the winners.

This thread is case in point as to why history doesn't always remember the winners.

Since when are achievements not memorable?

Mole you should know this more than anyone, Newcastle are the most forgettable club ever. And why? Because they haven't achieved anything.

Depends on the achievement I suppose.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

guest7 wrote:Please it's going to take another 100 years before we get a 3peat CL winner

Achievement =/= Memorable.

Which a lot of people in this thread don't seem to get. I'm not asking the question of whether Madrid's CLs were not a great achievement.

I'm not that stupid, Nick in the Messi thread argued history remembers the winners.

This thread is case in point as to why history doesn't always remember the winners.

History always remember the winners, and always forget about the runner-ups.

You can keep telling yourself that trophies don't matter, but they are the most important thing in world football.

Carlo's Madrid in 2015 (and specifically in the first half of the season) played some breathtaking football and beat Guardiola's record of successive wins, yet the only thing people remember that year is that Madrid finished trophyless.

Maybe you dislike Madrid so much that you're willing to belittle their achievements to make yourself feel better. I get that. You're free to dislike whoever you want. But that doesn't change the fact that what Madrid has achieved in recent years in the CL is nothing short of miraculous, and you can bet whatever you'd like that it'll forever stay carved in history and remembered by every football fan around the globe.

Yeah that's completely incorrect, please don't make me bring up every team that didn't win which history remembers even fondly than than the winners themselves.

There's plenty of teams throughout history who win who people have forgotten.

This is kind of why i made the thread, to dispel this ridiculous notion that history remembers the winners. They really don't, but i see your still holding to your ridiculous ideology.

Hell there's probably more winners which have been lost to history than losers tbh, just look at all the CL winners over the last 20 years they are all largely forgettable save a few exceptions.

This idea that history remembers the winners needs to die, it's a myth which has been repeated so many times people have begun to accept it as fact when it's not even close.

What runners-up are we remembering over the winner exactly?

vanDEEZ wrote:What runners-up are we remembering over the winner exactly?

It's very ironic someone from the Netherlands would say this....

Yeah, we were runners-up 2 WC's in a row during a great period of Dutch football, but the only reason that period is remembered is because of Cruyff and total football, had we won no one would shut up about it, but no one wants to talk about the losses. The Euro win in 88 is more prominently talked about. Plus, I would hardly say anyone remembers or cares when we lost to Spain in 2010.

this is all subjective, i don't know who these people are that remember or don't remember any of this. neither do i know who these people are that talk about one team's ucl win over another. this just seems like an assumption pulled out the air...not that there's anything wrong with that, its what football banter is all about. there isn't any nostalgic feel of it, as this only happened last year, but whatever. this seems to me more like a "madrid should be stripped of all their UCL titles because we don't think people remember them" thread. i prefer that name

all due respect to those who forgot, when you've won that many its understandable to forget some.....and ruud gullit is the best dutch player of all time

The reputation of that dutch team has already faded a lot and will fade even more with every year that passes.
It's now mostly a side note when people talk about Cruijff dominating Europe with Ajax.

History won't remember the team.


Anyway strange thread. You can't seriously think you can judge if neutrals care or don't care more about this (or another) Madrid team than about other teams.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Doc wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:and why am I not Madrid hater no. 1?

Mole came first so he is obviously no. 1. What's wrong with 2nd?

Coming 2nd is nothing. Makes me look like a serial loser ffs

well, you are a Bayern fan