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http://m.spiegel.de/international/europe/brexit-talks-watching-a-country-make-a-fool-of-itself-a-1234143.html
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Der Spiegel: Britain have become the laughing stock of the world
http://m.spiegel.de/international/europe/brexit-talks-watching-a-country-make-a-fool-of-itself-a-1234143.html
It should be said that Jan Fleischhauer is one of the worst and most notorious commenters in German journalism. I'm not going to bother reading any of his stuff, massive idiot and wannabe right-wing contrarian WUM.
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DUP's Sammy Wilson tells @SkyNews that May won't get this deal through parliament without the support of Labour MPs - describes it as "a humiliation" - says nobody should be surprised that the DUP vote against it.
— Christian May (@ChristianJMay) 13 November 2018
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Even if Labour came in, there's still the fundamental problem of not knowing what shape Brexit should take. They could negotiate their own deal, come back and encounter the same problems May did - because lo and behold, not agreeing on what we wanted from the deal before triggering Article 50 turned out to be a horrible idea.
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a bunch of pussies is right tbh. we spent 2 world wars fighting to save these ass wipes and now we are bending over for them. if only sir winston churchill was alive today.BarrileteCosmico wrote:
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There is alot May can do. Britain voted to leave. If she doesn't think she's up for it given her remain beliefs she should have stepped aside like Cameron did. But she didn't and that's why she's getting all the heat for her putrid efforts to get the best possible deal for Britain
@Art Morte, what Britain needs is not to be governed by the EU, not to fund the countries who can't afford the membership fees and to be able to control it's borders. None of which May has delivered on. Her proposal is so bad Britain might as well stay in the EU as opposed to paying billions in the divorce bill only to be stuck to them anyhow. If she had any guts she wouldn't have taken crap from those EU pen pushers but she gave them everything they wanted. The problem with her is that she is trying to deliver on something she doesn't really believe in and this is what you get
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Now, if she was ousted or resigned, it would only make sense if the new Prime Minister was able to negotiate (not that there's time to negotiate any more) a deal that would be more popular in Parliament than May's deal. But I don't think that a harder Brexit deal to May's soft deal would be more popular. Therefore all this talk in the UK press and Parliament alike about May being close to losing her job is a bit short-sighted, imo. I think it would change very little at this point.
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And re Nigel Farge, he is now being investigated for being a link to Russia influence in the US election and interesting it has been suggested the Russia influenced the Brexit vote! Could Farage be the instigator of that?
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halamadrid2 wrote:@Art Morte, what Britain needs is not to be governed by the EU, not to fund the countries who can't afford the membership fees and to be able to control it's borders. None of which May has delivered on. Her proposal is so bad Britain might as well stay in the EU as opposed to paying billions in the divorce bill only to be stuck to them anyhow. If she had any guts she wouldn't have taken crap from those EU pen pushers but she gave them everything they wanted. The problem with her is that she is trying to deliver on something she doesn't really believe in and this is what you get
And how do you propose the UK gets any of these items done without making the sacrifices that British people are unwilling to make? If you want to retake control of the borders then you need a hard border in NI, which no one seems to want. If you want to not be governed by the EU then you can't have access to the single market. What you want is possible, but the UK seems to want to have the cake and eat it too.
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The Brexit paradox is that most of those who voted to leave the EU want a hard Brexit, but either don't fully understand or care about the negative consequences - while most of those in power (the Parliament, including Mrs May) don't want a hard Brexit, because they understand those consequences. So, what they get is this soft Brexit which the Brexiteers aren't happy with because it's too soft and which the Remainers aren't happy with because they'd like to stay in the EU. The silver lining, I suppose, is that such a "worst of the both worlds" outcome should provide plenty of opportunity for the Brits to conjure up some of that trademark satirical, self-depreciating humour of theirs.
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But there is concern that the UK's plan to leave the European Union will be used by Madrid to cause problems for this tiny strip of British territory off Spain's southern coast.
Keith Azopardi, leader of Gibraltar's opposition party, said he is disappointed the Spanish government is threatening to vote against the Brexit deal this weekend unless the wording in draft texts is changed to give Madrid greater control over the territory's future.
jesut wept are spain still going on about gibraltar.
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Former Brexit Secretary @DominicRaab says Theresa May's proposed EU deal would be worse than staying in the EU on current terms. "We'd effectively be bound by the same rules but without the control or voice over them" #r4today
— BBC Radio 4 Today (@BBCr4today) 23 November 2018
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i think we all knew this would happen tbh. its time for people to go out and set fire to the city of london imo. trying to get things done peacefully with votes doesnt seem to work anymore. if 200k people riot in london i bet things would get done. but i did see some good news today. tommy robinson is now an advisor to the leader of UKIP. could be the first step on the political ladder for tommy robinson i really really hope so.Firenze wrote:Former Brexit Secretary @DominicRaab says Theresa May's proposed EU deal would be worse than staying in the EU on current terms. "We'd effectively be bound by the same rules but without the control or voice over them" #r4today
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