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Re: Who will be the Democrats' presidential candidate against Trump?
Unique wrote:and where were the japanese in ww2. in china being great humanitariansYoung Kaz wrote:Unique wrote: another way of looking at it is that with the help of the british america managed to fight off the greatest military force in the world ( ww2 nazis and the japanese ) yet on your own america lost a war against a bunch of vietnamese farmers. but thats all crap. us brits and our american brothers stand side by side in times of war. im not sure what side you stand on though.
Where were you during vietnam if we stand side by side?
Also make no mistake about it that same vietnam would have mopped the floor with 1960's UK. Ho Chi Minh wasnt having it.
Awful thing to bring up.
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yes im sure it was. anyway lets not piss on each others country anymore i will be proud to be british and you can be proud of being whoever pays more money.Young Kaz wrote:Unique wrote:and where were the japanese in ww2. in china being great humanitariansYoung Kaz wrote:
Where were you during vietnam if we stand side by side?
Also make no mistake about it that same vietnam would have mopped the floor with 1960's UK. Ho Chi Minh wasnt having it.
Awful thing to bring up.
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I honestly think Bloomberg is worse than Trump, and Bloomberg record of using the NY police force unethically targeting minorities is horrendous. Imagine what he would do with the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc at his disposal. Trump loves to be the center attention, while Bloomberg loves power.
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Here is to hoping that Klobuchar pulls a major upset tomorrow. The US' last hope.
Biden only had electability going for him and now he doesn't even have that. Mayor Pete is a billionaire shrill the MSM is trying to push down our throats in spite of being woefully under prepared for the job. Sanders is a dictator lover (funny how Populists of different wings resemble each other huh) and has a record that won't survive any general election, American Corbyn. Liz can't catch up to Bernie already, is done.
Looks like she did. Team Klobuchar
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Young Kaz wrote:Myesyats wrote:I've heard stories of Americans losing their homes due to healthcare debt. I pay taxes, but so do Americans, the difference is I've never had to worry about any medical bill-- or student debt for that matter.... I've actually been paid to attend college/uni and I'm the one living in a poor country.
Because American tax payers pay for military expenses so you dont have to.
If you had to spend your tax money on a military I question how much closer to our system you'd look.
Wow.
Yankee chauvisnism and ignorance at its dumbest and most offensive
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Young Kaz wrote:Myesyats wrote:I've heard stories of Americans losing their homes due to healthcare debt. I pay taxes, but so do Americans, the difference is I've never had to worry about any medical bill-- or student debt for that matter.... I've actually been paid to attend college/uni and I'm the one living in a poor country.
Because American tax payers pay for military expenses so you dont have to.
If you had to spend your tax money on a military I question how much closer to our system you'd look.
You don't "have to" pay so much for military expenses, you're just dumb enough to do so. You could cut a chunk out of that 3,6% and nothing would happen, a couple nukes less but that's no biggie
Also your GDP is like 8x bigger than the UK's so you should spend more.
US can afford universal healthcare, your economy is enormous and bigger than any other by quite a margin, probably bigger than all of EU combined yet many european countries are considered better to live in.
A japanese yankee is a rare sight indeed.
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:BarrileteCosmico wrote:Here is to hoping that Klobuchar pulls a major upset tomorrow. The US' last hope.
Biden only had electability going for him and now he doesn't even have that. Mayor Pete is a billionaire shrill the MSM is trying to push down our throats in spite of being woefully under prepared for the job. Sanders is a dictator lover (funny how Populists of different wings resemble each other huh) and has a record that won't survive any general election, American Corbyn. Liz can't catch up to Bernie already, is done.
Looks like she did. Team Klobuchar
What dictators is he supporting? I don't doubt you, just curious since I haven't seen much. Always ready to get disappointed by politicians
Your line about populists on either side resembling each other is what I always say. It's just pandering to whatever issues will get the populist elected, doesn't matter if it's right or left, it's just an empty quest for power/money. No better if it's right or left.
That said there are different levels of populism as with everything. There is the Berlusconi and there is Chavez, different levels. Trump is more of a populist than Sanders by far.
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Also, if you BC, or anyone else, have time, what is Klobuchar about? I know next to nothing about her.
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rincon wrote:Also, if you BC, or anyone else, have time, what is Klobuchar about? I know next to nothing about her.
Do you know the film Fargo?
Klobuchar is like if that genuinely nice, but stern policewoman grew old, became a DA and then a senator
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Hapless_Hans wrote:Young Kaz wrote:Myesyats wrote:I've heard stories of Americans losing their homes due to healthcare debt. I pay taxes, but so do Americans, the difference is I've never had to worry about any medical bill-- or student debt for that matter.... I've actually been paid to attend college/uni and I'm the one living in a poor country.
Because American tax payers pay for military expenses so you dont have to.
If you had to spend your tax money on a military I question how much closer to our system you'd look.
Wow.
Yankee chauvisnism and ignorance at its dumbest and most offensive
Wouldn't expect anything less from him
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Young Kaz wrote:Because American tax payers pay for military expenses so you dont have to.
If you had to spend your tax money on a military I question how much closer to our system you'd look.
Did you suck that dumbass statement from Trump's tit before you spat it at us?
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a talking point straight from an AEI briefing lmao
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Seriously exactly the dumbass sentiment that keeps a rich-ass nation like the US of A from taking care of their most vulnerable citizens. Fucking whataboutism with an accusatory twist for the extra-uneducated. Genuinely hurt to read that.
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Hapless_Hans wrote:rincon wrote:Also, if you BC, or anyone else, have time, what is Klobuchar about? I know next to nothing about her.
Do you know the film Fargo?
Klobuchar is like if that genuinely nice, but stern policewoman grew old, became a DA and then a senator
I know the film but haven't watched it. Old stern policewoman does sounds nice
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rincon wrote:BarrileteCosmico wrote:BarrileteCosmico wrote:Here is to hoping that Klobuchar pulls a major upset tomorrow. The US' last hope.
Biden only had electability going for him and now he doesn't even have that. Mayor Pete is a billionaire shrill the MSM is trying to push down our throats in spite of being woefully under prepared for the job. Sanders is a dictator lover (funny how Populists of different wings resemble each other huh) and has a record that won't survive any general election, American Corbyn. Liz can't catch up to Bernie already, is done.
Looks like she did. Team Klobuchar
What dictators is he supporting? I don't doubt you, just curious since I haven't seen much. Always ready to get disappointed by politicians
Your line about populists on either side resembling each other is what I always say. It's just pandering to whatever issues will get the populist elected, doesn't matter if it's right or left, it's just an empty quest for power/money. No better if it's right or left.
That said there are different levels of populism as with everything. There is the Berlusconi and there is Chavez, different levels. Trump is more of a populist than Sanders by far.
It's kind of what you would expect from him, support of Castro and timid support of Chávez/Maduro. When asked about it he tries to turn it into a talking point to decry US intervention in Latin America (which I of course agree with) but a journalist has to try pretty hard to get even mild criticisms of them from him. There are also videos of him talking about what an inspiring man Fidel is and how he captured his imagination while in college.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/bernie-sanders-maduro-castro-latin-america-socialism.html
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Yeah I knew about that, thought it was even more stuff. It's the same kind of mental mediocrity that forces politicians to support others simply based on a perception of where they land on a simplified political ideology spectrum.
Best case scenario is about avoiding the possible PR coming from it, condemning socialism in latin america while promoting socialism in the US. Worst case scenario is the justification of authoritarianism for the promotion of his own leftist ideology, a revolting position.
From reading his comments in his past Bernie was more the "worst case", while today he seems to be more the "best case". I remember he spoke out against Maduro during the latest protests calling him a tyrant, chavez a dictator, and venezuela a disaster.
This link is great on the democrat primary candidates' positions on Venezuela
https://www.as-coa.org/articles/us-2020-democratic-candidates-venezuela#biden
Best case scenario is about avoiding the possible PR coming from it, condemning socialism in latin america while promoting socialism in the US. Worst case scenario is the justification of authoritarianism for the promotion of his own leftist ideology, a revolting position.
From reading his comments in his past Bernie was more the "worst case", while today he seems to be more the "best case". I remember he spoke out against Maduro during the latest protests calling him a tyrant, chavez a dictator, and venezuela a disaster.
This link is great on the democrat primary candidates' positions on Venezuela
https://www.as-coa.org/articles/us-2020-democratic-candidates-venezuela#biden
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I mean people can be mad at the statement, but its a fact.
Unique can talk about how they fund their military and NHS, but its a failing joke. He himself goes around hating on poor african kids, which make up a minority among minorities, for the reason his mother in law cant get healthcare in the UK.
Also its easy to fund your welfare states when you know the US tax payer funding your military force is there to bail you out. US spends like 70% of NATO military spending.
Its also not a waste of Money, lest you forget some bad people who walk this earth. Russia would chomping at the bits for a piece of you if we didnt fund this military beast. Ask Ukraine if they'll play fair.
Unique can talk about how they fund their military and NHS, but its a failing joke. He himself goes around hating on poor african kids, which make up a minority among minorities, for the reason his mother in law cant get healthcare in the UK.
Also its easy to fund your welfare states when you know the US tax payer funding your military force is there to bail you out. US spends like 70% of NATO military spending.
Its also not a waste of Money, lest you forget some bad people who walk this earth. Russia would chomping at the bits for a piece of you if we didnt fund this military beast. Ask Ukraine if they'll play fair.
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Mate, as Europeans, all our neighbours are our allies, the only reason NATO even has to spend so much money is American batshittery igniting countless arms races. And like two thirds of your military budget is sunk into vanity projects like the F-22 that's just there to create jobs, might as well be honest about your socialism and directly fund Federal job creation programs.
Also the US should pay for like 70% of NATO military spending (as you claim, even though that's not even correct, but let's just pretend it is), since the NATO is basically acting as an extension of US foreign interest.
Also the NHS is not failing, like, at all. It's stretched thin a bit here and there, but what do you expect after decades of Tory rule, but the NHS being a mess is just Leave Campaign propaganda, gratefully retweeted by the Orange One to make sure Americans don't realize they could just be insured without going bankrupt.
Also the US should pay for like 70% of NATO military spending (as you claim, even though that's not even correct, but let's just pretend it is), since the NATO is basically acting as an extension of US foreign interest.
Also the NHS is not failing, like, at all. It's stretched thin a bit here and there, but what do you expect after decades of Tory rule, but the NHS being a mess is just Leave Campaign propaganda, gratefully retweeted by the Orange One to make sure Americans don't realize they could just be insured without going bankrupt.
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People complaining about health care being bad and then continuing to vote for the people making it worse.
That’s politics for you.
That’s politics for you.
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Freeza wrote:People complaining about health care being bad and then continuing to vote for the people making it worse.
That’s politics for you.
Yeah, this. Haha.
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VivaStPauli wrote:Mate, as Europeans, all our neighbours are our allies, the only reason NATO even has to spend so much money is American batshittery igniting countless arms races. And like two thirds of your military budget is sunk into vanity projects like the F-22 that's just there to create jobs, might as well be honest about your socialism and directly fund Federal job creation programs.
Also the US should pay for like 70% of NATO military spending (as you claim, even though that's not even correct, but let's just pretend it is), since the NATO is basically acting as an extension of US foreign interest.
Also the NHS is not failing, like, at all. It's stretched thin a bit here and there, but what do you expect after decades of Tory rule, but the NHS being a mess is just Leave Campaign propaganda, gratefully retweeted by the Orange One to make sure Americans don't realize they could just be insured without going bankrupt.
The F-22 was a scientific achievement. It was never going to be a viable machine constantly produced unless a huge conflict broke out with a modern military. It is a necessary thing as R&D is with any healthy corporation.
Also a European source for US contributing 70% of nato defense spending:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-44717074
So you blame tory influence for why the NHS is stretched then, but ignore the fact that an even worse organization in the GOP would have the purse strings for any public US option for large swaths of the country?
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The GOP should be nowhere near government. It's a party running on the platform of "Government doesn't work", so of course they'll sabotage the government to win the next election yet again. It's a vicious cycle of... Circlejerking, I guess. They are utterly corrupt.
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rincon wrote:Hapless_Hans wrote:rincon wrote:Also, if you BC, or anyone else, have time, what is Klobuchar about? I know next to nothing about her.
Do you know the film Fargo?
Klobuchar is like if that genuinely nice, but stern policewoman grew old, became a DA and then a senator
I know the film but haven't watched it. Old stern policewoman does sounds nice
One of the great heroines of 90s cinema.
She does seem nice and I'm sure the US, and the rest of us, could do much, much worse than a President Klobuchar. To me, if you think of the often used notion of "fundamentally decent US citizens", someone like her comes to mind. I watched her at the Kavanaugh hearings and liked her attitude and demeanor very much, but obviously, more in depth observations would have to be provided by our US posters. @CBarca , for example, who if I'm not mistaken is from a neighbouring state?
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Oh lord, don't remind me of the Kavanaugh hearing, unbelievable such an ungraceful jerk got into any office. Political leanings ignored, the man is rude, disrespectful, and displayed unbelievable arrogance.
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VivaStPauli wrote:The GOP should be nowhere near government. It's a party running on the platform of "Government doesn't work", so of course they'll sabotage the government to win the next election yet again. It's a vicious cycle of... Circlejerking, I guess. They are utterly corrupt.
Theres large segments of the nation who will ALWAYS elect them though because they are brainwashed. Thats not going to change.
Any healthcare offered with them having any power will be shit.
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Shit healthcare is better than no healthcare, so, baby steps.
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