Re: Harry Kane - the next Galactico

by futbol_bill Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:39 pm

M99 wrote:Beckham finished 2nd in WPOTY, had 33 assists in one season, showed up in big games and was not world class?

He gets a lot of unfair flak for his celebrity status, he was absolutely one of the best in the world at his prime. Perhaps the best crosser of the ball ever.

Beckham did not have a role at Madrid with Figo and Zidane. He just didn't fit in at Madrid and the only time he proved his worth was in Capello's last year after he had signed for LA. Capello wasn't going to use him, but after running into injury problems used him and that time (only that time), he had a role and played well that 2nd half of season.

by Perucho21 Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:44 pm

Kane or Gabriel Jesus??? hmm

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:47 pm

Perucho21 wrote:Kane or Gabriel Jesus???

Kane, his overall play is much better. If you are talking about in general, i'd probably make the argument Jesus is a better fit for Man City.

by Thimmy Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:35 pm

I didn't mean to underrate Kane or overrate Alli ya damn brits Very Happy

My only point is that they're both British, and as far as I know, even Alli is among the most high-profile players on the continent. I don't care whether it's justified or not ffs. I'd prefer if RM went for other alternatives... because quite frankly, British players just aren't worth their hype these days, and I generally think it's a gamble for a Spanish club to go after British, high-profile players, as opposed to non- British players. Odd, right? I mean, the traditional, British, hype- generated price tag is so appealing banana

by Thimmy Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:40 pm

futbol_bill wrote:
M99 wrote:Beckham finished 2nd in WPOTY, had 33 assists in one season, showed up in big games and was not world class?

He gets a lot of unfair flak for his celebrity status, he was absolutely one of the best in the world at his prime. Perhaps the best crosser of the ball ever.

Beckham did not have a role at Madrid with Figo and Zidane. He just didn't fit in at Madrid and the only time he proved his worth was in Capello's last year after he had signed for LA. Capello wasn't going to use him, but after running into injury problems used him and that time (only that time), he had a role and played well that 2nd half of season.

Yeah, I can't be bothered to argue against his statistics. All that matters was his actual performance as a Real Madrid player, and in my opinion, he was one of the weaker players on a star-studded team. Props to him for being able to assist the likes of Ronaldo Nazário, though.

by BarcaLearning Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:33 pm

Thimmy wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:
M99 wrote:Beckham finished 2nd in WPOTY, had 33 assists in one season, showed up in big games and was not world class?

He gets a lot of unfair flak for his celebrity status, he was absolutely one of the best in the world at his prime. Perhaps the best crosser of the ball ever.

Beckham did not have a role at Madrid with Figo and Zidane. He just didn't fit in at Madrid and the only time he proved his worth was in Capello's last year after he had signed for LA. Capello wasn't going to use him, but after running into injury problems used him and that time (only that time), he had a role and played well that 2nd half of season.

Yeah, I can't be bothered to argue against his statistics. All that matters was his actual performance as a Real Madrid player, and in my opinion, he was one of the weaker players on a star-studded team. Props to him for being able to assist the likes of Ronaldo Nazário, though.

Beckham was overall a very good player, what sets him apart as one of the best is mainly his crossing and free kicks, mainly his crossing, they are just unbelievably accurate and difficult to defend against. Still remember how he always wanted to play in CM, and eventually at certain times he got his chance, but werent that good there.

So he was most effective on the right pinpointing crosses onto strikers who are good headers to score goals, which was so useful and decisive when they work.

Cant compare him with the likes of Zidane and Figo.

by futbol_bill Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:14 pm

I agree Beckham was overall a very good player and his crosses, passes and free kicks were top notch, but his value to Real Madrid is really limited to 4 months (and a liga trophy) in his final year here.

He was a marketing purchase, not needed on the field (much like the Bale purchase) and his real value is likely measured in shirt sales, certainly not his on the field presence.

It's also interesting to note that the originator of these galactico signings has all but abandoned that idea instead signing promising youth. Perhaps this is due to the last two (Bale and James) not working out.

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:42 pm

How much do you think Flo will have to shell out to convince Levi? I'd say at least as much as Neymar...

by RealGunner Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:45 pm

100m min

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:46 pm

100m will get you laughed out of the office

by Kaladin Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:47 pm

Probably 200m or thereabouts, actually maybe even more, this is Spurs we are talking about here

by rincon Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:47 pm

How long is his contract?

by futbol_bill Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:07 pm

Well, flo wasn’t interested in 120m and has very vivid memories of past dealings with Levi and in particular how badly he got hosed on that last deal for an overhyped, under performing, injury prone flop!

Sounds like a non starter to me!

by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:30 pm

rincon wrote:How long is his contract?

2022

pretty much impossible tbh

by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:39 pm

Tottenham would demand a world-record fee for Harry Kane if any club attempted to sign him, according to Real Madrid president Florentino Perez.

England striker Kane, 24, was called "a complete player" by Real boss Zinedine Zidane before Spurs' recent 1-1 draw at the Bernabeu in the Champions League.

Asked if he had spoken to Daniel Levy, the Spurs chairman, Perez said: "No. If I ask he'll tell me 250m euros [£223m].

"Signing Harry Kane has not passed through my head."
[..]
Kane has scored 15 goals for club and country this season, and has 45 in total in 2017 alone.

"He is a magnificent player and in addition he is young," added Perez. "But we are delighted with the team we have."

Tottenham has been a lucrative source of talent for Real in recent years, with both Luka Modric and Gareth Bale joining on big-money deals.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41737088

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:14 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Well, flo wasn’t interested in 120m and has very vivid memories of past dealings with Levi and in particular how badly he got hosed on that last deal for an overhyped, under performing, injury prone flop!

Sounds like a non starter to me!

What's this you say?

Cadena Cope wrote:Perez said: “Every time we win a European title, Daniel Levy sends me the same message. ‘Congratulations for the European title you have won with my players.'”

by CBarca Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:44 pm

Flo is wrong, Levy would ask for more than 250m euros lol

Not that much more though. I could see anywhere from 275-300m being his going price.

by futbol_bill Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:05 pm

Does it really matter? 250M, 300M. Remember Flo has already balked (twice) at 120M!

This whole thread is a non starter. Madrid will not go after Kane nor DeGea, not because they don't need them or want them, but because of price tags.

by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:56 pm

The Sunday Times wrote:Tottenham Hotspur fight Real Madrid over world record £200m bid for Harry Kane
Tottenham Hotspur are determined to resist a world-record bid from Real Madrid for striker Harry Kane. The Spanish club are prepared to make Kane football’s first £200m player, and exceed the £198m Paris Saint-Germain spent on Neymar, as they plot a radical and expensive summer overhaul.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tottenham-hotspur-fight-real-madrid-over-world-record-200m-bid-for-harry-kane-8hkl8f8lv

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:58 pm

i love Kane he is great, but i would rather pay 110 mil for Icardi and move on with my life

or Bale straight swap

by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:01 pm

Dude

Kane scored like 60 goals in 2017

Icardi is great and stuff, but you are Real Madrid and not Chelsea

Man up and get the best

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:11 pm

we are Madrid indeed, we still have morata's money in the bank, plus whatever benzema (if he goes, i think he will because he will understand he is no longer starter, and he said multiple times there is no reason to go since he is starting...) will sell for this summer.

im not kidding myself into thinking this will not happen though, i know damn well he is n1 on the recruiting list, specially at CF.

then Hazard, Salah, etc...

by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:12 pm

You are not going to get Salah with Bales resurgence

It will be Hazard, Kane, and De Gea. What a summer it will be.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:14 pm

Bale has consistently been injured for like 3 months every season, it would be the smart thing to do. your attacking leader cant be an injury prone player. Salah is showing he can score as much and he stays fit, just sayin...

and i strongly doubt we go back for De Gea, for some reasons, interest has switched to Courtois it seems

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:16 pm

as for Hazard, it would only happen if Cristiano leaves, and that's a big IF

by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:21 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:as for Hazard, it would only happen if Cristiano leaves, and that's a big IF

Nothing happens until Cristiano leaves. Getting rid of Cristiano is priority no 1, how else do you want to pay Hazard's and Kane's wages and fees

Not to mention it makes no sense to get Kane if he isn't allowed to be primary goalscorer

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