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Post by Luca Thu 05 Apr 2018, 20:44

Sarri is a great manager. I hope we never see him at Juventus though

I think Conte is realistic but I don't want it. I can also see Simone Inzaghi, I wouldn't be against it but I can imagine it taking a season for him to find his feet at Juventus if it is to be him

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Post by S Thu 05 Apr 2018, 20:51

No Conte pls. Guy's gonna bitch and moan about why we couldnt sign Politano when we exit the CL groups again. That era is done. Dont want to see him back again.

Inzaghi is far more realistic but he'll have huge boots to fill.

Ancelotti has been linked with us very recently. Deschamps said he'd consider coaching Juve again. I'll be very surprised if we bring in a 'big name' to replace Allegri should he leave.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu 05 Apr 2018, 20:57

If we're going to trade Allegri for Conte or any other coach that will prioritise our defensive shape over everything else then i'd rather keep Allegri for another decade.


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Post by rincon Thu 05 Apr 2018, 21:25

Love Sarri's football, don't want Sarri here. Just doesn't seem like a good match for Juve.

Prefer Inzaghi, Giampaolo and Spalletti.

Ancelotti would feel a bit strange considering he was already our coach and it didn't go well.
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Post by juvealbanian Thu 05 Apr 2018, 23:01

Griezmann rumors make no sense especially when there are still Martial news going on.
Are we going to change our Argie strikers with French strikers?

The best scenario would be to sell Higuain for around 70-80m and buy Griezmann (100m release clause).

Anyway hopefully this time we wont spend our budget on attackers and only make this "swaps" if needed and if possible.

As for the next coach I wouln't mind Sarri tbh. I was so against Allegri that I can be ok with Sarri.

Maybe I prefer Ancelotti given his experience and higher profile.

Di Francesco,Gasperini and Inzaghi are great coaches as well.They like playing a bit more offensive football.
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Post by S Fri 06 Apr 2018, 11:42

Assuming Allegri continues beyond this season, then i expect Khedira to stay and Marchisio to leave. Bentancur preferred ahead of Marchisio gave us a huge indication. I dont think its injuries anymore. There was an article posted on Tuz forum where Allegri said he prefers Khedira ahead of Marchisio because of his height and that it'd be helpful in set piece situations while defending headers.

Right now i can only compile a list of names that'll probably leave in the summer.

I predict,

Buffon
Asamoah
Lichtsteiner
Mandzukic
Marchisio
Sturaro
Alex Sandro

All to leave.

Khedira to remain until his contract expires(2019), Barzagli to stay on as a 5th choice center-back.
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Post by S Fri 06 Apr 2018, 11:52

Rumour round-up :

Juventus expects a definitive answer from Emre Can within the next 10 days. Juventus are the favorites to sign him but there are still some doubts about his willingness to leave the Premier League. (GdS)




Mirante will leave Bologna in the summer. Juventus & Roma are in the race to sign him. (Corriere Bologna)




Inter & Juventus will compete for the signing of Roma midfielder Lorenzo Pellegrini, who has a release clause of €25-30m. (GdS)




Gazzetta dello Sport reports that Juventus have given an ultimatum to Emre Can. In case Juve fail to sign him, the plan-B has options such as Cristane and Pellegrini.
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Post by juvealbanian Fri 06 Apr 2018, 12:18

Sell Sandro (60) and find a proper replacement (30m max)
Sell Mandzukic Khedira Asamoah Sturaro Lichtsteiner Marchisio (all 70m)

Release Buffon and Barzagli or keep them as 2nd keeper and 5th CB option.

That means we have 100m + budget (~50m min) = 150m

BUY :

Thomas Lemar (70m) AMF/CMF/LMF

William Carvalho (45m) CDM

Darmian (~5m)

Kessie (~30m + bonuses)

FREE DEALS : Can,Caldara,Spinazzola,Mirante and possibly Balotelli if needed.


TEAM ROSTER:

KEEPERS : Szczesny Buffon* Pinsoglio

CB : Chiellini Benatia Rugani Caldara Barzagli*

SB : R.Pereira* Darmian De Sciglio Spinazzola (Cuadrado optional)

MF : Pjanic Lemar W.Carvalho Matuidi Can Kessie Bentancur

SMF : D Costa Bernardeschi Cuadrado* Pjaca

FW : Higuain Dybala Balotelli

Looks realistic and could fix our midfield problems once and for all plus adds enough depth on all fronts.
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Post by juvealbanian Fri 06 Apr 2018, 12:19

^^^ what do you think guys? what about you Beppe? Can you do this this summer please? Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by Warrior Fri 06 Apr 2018, 13:12

Kessie seems to be a player Milan wants to build around. No chance he comes here.

William Carvalho i forgot about him. Based on his Fifa stats he is precisely someone to complete our midfield puzzle. In real life, i truly don't have the slightest clue what he's worth. Been like 3 years that Juve/Arsenal/Milan have interest in him and clubs always retract. Now it's time for urgency moves so why not.

Lemar wants to join either a Premier League club or Bayern.

Is Balotelli-Juve a new meme ? I keep reading this nowadays idk why. Literally the last player i'd want at Juve.

Mirante is probably our new 2nd gk if Gigi leaves.

Cuadrado can play RW, RM or even RB, he has enough work rate for it. I think he is a useful player in most situations. Hope he remains.
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Post by rincon Fri 06 Apr 2018, 13:25

Haven't read any Juve Balotelli links. The latest was Roma or Lazio for him, forgot which one. His performances and maturity these last two season catch the eye of clubs since he is free in the summer and Nice can't afford him.

He probably won't come to us. We wanted him way back then and it didn't work out, since then Marotta says he is not our type (iirc).
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Post by Luca Fri 06 Apr 2018, 13:33

The only Balotelli link was himself saying he wants to come back to Italy and he would like to play for either Juventus or Napoli. I think he could also be available for free or on an expiring contract.

I would take him in a heartbeat. We have no vice #9 but I don’t think he’ll accept a rotational role, given he’s in his prime and is having the best spell of his career.

Anyways, forward wise is not as concerning as the midfield. This has to be our priority, where we spend the majority of our funds. Attacking signings should be reactive, if we sell Higuain (example), then yes, we’ll have to sign a striker but until then to think about the attack right now is naive. We can have Ronaldo-Kane-Messi up top, if our midfield is the same shit we’ll be in the same boat

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Post by juvealbanian Fri 06 Apr 2018, 14:26

Milan are out of their CHL spot target so they might need to sell a player or two.Kessie is very talented and a beast physically.He runs a lot and is strong, something we lack in midfield for quite some time now.Plus he's just 21 and would be an important investment for the future.If it was a player I would take from Milan would probably be Kessie.C'mon man we gave them Bonucci and bought De Sciglio from them.They should be nice and give us Kessie Very Happy

From what I've seen from Carvalho with Sporting and mostly Portugese NT he is a good midfielder.He is defensive and may be a bit slow but he's really strong , good in the air and most importantly his passing game is surprising for a CDM.At 25 year old he has lots of experience both with his club and country so I guess it's time for him to move to a bigger club.

Idk what Lemar's preferences are but he's a gem.He's been steadly growing into a great all-around midfielder.He's versatile and can play as CAM/CM and on the left wing as well.He'll do good here imo and we will finaly put Dybala as a forward with Lemar behind him and Higgy.
70-80m could be enough to get him.
I don't know any other young offensive mid who can cost less. Ofc I would prefer someone like Eriksen but he might cost +100m so...

I believe Cuadrado can be a great RB.His runs and energy are fantastic but he lacks that final decision so who knows,he might turn to be a WC wingback.

As for Sandro replacements there are lots of LB available at a price range of ~30m or even less.
If we can pick the right one we won't feel Sandro even left since he hasn't been anything special this year.

I mentioned Balotelli because we need someone to rotate with Higgy.His character may not fit Juve on a first view but so was the case with Tevez and Vidal.
I'm sure we are the best place to reJUVEnate his career.I'd take him on a free deal.He's still just 27 so he can become a starter later on if he really tries or wants to.
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Post by rincon Fri 06 Apr 2018, 14:37

I don't think Mandzukic is particularly useful as a CF anymore. I would definitely take Balotelli as he is free, younger and more useful. Don't think it will happen though. I want it just to see the media circus that would happen, it would be unreal.

Kean is too young and poor imo. Maybe Pjaca can play there if he comes back, or Dybala from time to time. We just can't always play Higuain in every single game.
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Post by S Fri 06 Apr 2018, 18:43

- Buffon is expected to retire at the end of the season.
- Lichtsteiner and Asamoah will leave for free in the summer.
- Barzagli expected to renew for a year, Chiellini to 2020.
- Marchisio could head to the MLS in the summer.
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Post by Luca Fri 06 Apr 2018, 18:50

Mandzukic can be useful as a vice #9, but I feel he does not have either the personality or the desire to be a back up. You can see how little he contributes as a substitute. Due to this, I'm quite confident he's on the way out this summer. Also, his finishing really lets us down at times, he's only good for the occasional header at the back post these days, it's not enough.

Having a back up striker is not a choice, it's necessity. We paid 94M for Higuain, so we'll surely rely on him but you can't expect 50 games per season from him at a top level- no one in the world does such things. Thankfully, (knock on wood), Higuain is a durable pos.

Our focus has to be on midfielders that will improve us and not marginally such as Kessie would (for example only because he's mentioned) or Matuidi who was obviously an upgrade to say Rincon (no offence to my brother), but we need a prime CM like we got in Pjanic that will improve us and feature in our starting 11 in the moments that matter.

Even with the best attack and best defence, the midfield still becomes key to these important matches (all matches really). It really should've been addressed properly when Pogba left and Pjanic came in with another midfielder signed. We clearly got greedy with our success last season and decided not to invest there for a second year in a row. This season we are paying for it because we have not improved.

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Post by salmano9 Fri 06 Apr 2018, 19:20

S wrote:- Buffon is expected to retire at the end of the season.
- Lichtsteiner and Asamoah will leave for free in the summer.
- Barzagli expected to renew for a year, Chiellini to 2020.
- Marchisio could head to the MLS in the summer.
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I feel that Sturaro is leaving too. He does not seem like an important player these days.
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Post by Warrior Sat 07 Apr 2018, 01:08

Marchisio links to MLS ffs :bow: i think it's time to leave, clearly Allegri doesn't count on him, he prefers to lose 0-3 instead

btw

@Luca do you follow TFC ? @juve-gigi do you follow Whitecaps ?
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Post by Luca Sat 07 Apr 2018, 01:17

I'll go to a couple games a year, my brother has season tickets (for business purposes)

I don't really care for the MLS in general though

Only Juve

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Post by Warrior Sat 07 Apr 2018, 01:53

MLS approach of football is the opposite of Juve's

Marchisio would dominate that league on a wheelchair, if he joins i promise myself to go at the stadium and meet him. 1 year ago i would laugh at the idea of Marchisio in MLS but things have changed, it's a possibility now.

Me too Juve > local club
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Post by rincon Sat 07 Apr 2018, 13:24

Paredes:

"I live the present, that which happens at this moment. I can't speak of the future and much less predict it, but I've been told about the interest from Juve and Madrid towards me. I spoke to my agent, nothing concrete. The usual things in football."

I like his play, just wish he wasn't such a douchebag.
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Post by lucianomoggi Sun 08 Apr 2018, 04:37

about the transfers i am impressed with the effort we made on the past i also expect the same ideas to happen again,

there may be emergency transfers to keep the pace like; Mandzukic, but i dont think Juventus is going for the top players like we did with Higuain, why? bcs its too expensive, and its not worth it, it only happens if someone like Pogba leaves and we use the money instead of bcming depresses why someone left the team

and i also expect have a new promising star like we did with Bernarseschi, Dybala, Pogba, Morata but that is only one card gamble













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Post by juvealbanian Sun 08 Apr 2018, 14:44

Would you guys sell Higgy for 70-80m and buy let's say Belotti for 40m?
Or some other striker for ~40m???
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun 08 Apr 2018, 15:21

better question is, which team would sign Higuain, who is turning 31 at the end of this year for 70-80 millions, with no resale value, with a contract comparable to what he has until 2021 if not more, at 7.5 mil net per season?

not barca, not madrid, not united, not city, not pool, not chelsea, not arsenal, not bayern, not spurs, not psg...

well, no one would
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Post by S Sun 08 Apr 2018, 15:35

Yes. It is reasonable to assume that he'll be with us till the end of his contract(2021).
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Post by Luca Sun 08 Apr 2018, 17:39

Mr Nick09 wrote:better question is, which team would sign Higuain, who is turning 31 at the end of this year for 70-80 millions, with no resale value, with a contract comparable to what he has until 2021 if not more, at 7.5 mil net per season?

not barca, not madrid, not united, not city, not pool, not chelsea, not arsenal, not bayern, not spurs, not psg...

well, no one would


Nick asking the right questions

Belotti is nowhere near Higuain or ever will be. It would be a dramatic step backwards

The only players we have of significant value to barter with are Pjanic, Alex Sandro and Dybala

That’s not to suggest players like Bernardeschi or Douglas Costa do not have value but given what they were purchased for, you’re less likely to see a profit or as big of a profit as you would see for the first three names I mentioned

We already know that Alex Sandro is leaving and will fetch 50-60M. We also know that Asamoah and Lichtsteiner will both leave freely. That leaves us with just Spinazzola and De Sciglio as our full back options so we’ll have to sign two full backs this window off the start.

The funds from Alex Sandro alone would be enough to supplement with our own cash to buy a top midfielder. If we do nothing else, this is a realistic and reasonable expectation.

I think this is going to be a very busy summer

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