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Post by rincon Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:19 pm

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Post by nichabr Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:18 pm

rincon wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:
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Post by Glory Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:57 pm

silver wrote:Feel quite conflicted about that episode...

Spoiler:


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Theres a youtube channel called Emergency Awesome and the guy in that said the suicide squad sequence might have been developed backwards. That is from the scene where these 7 guys are waiting to open the gate to go out into the wild they might have sought for a reason for such a mission. Writers wanted to give us a great battle sequence involving these people. They might have thought of a few possible scenarios. In the end decided to go with 'for capturing a wight to present before Cersei', apparently "the most reasonable person in Westeros" Rolling Eyes I mean how dumb can people get.
They honestly want to make us believe Cersei will give 2 shits about dead men marching for the wall? After all they have been doing with her character over the years. Developing it step by step (and doing a good job at that ofc) to make her the female version of Mad king. At this point, she will happily take world ending if the only other option was not Lannister's eventual victory. Such is her character arc (or at least thats what they have made it).

Its borderline treating us viewers as fools. Now if they change the tune and make Cersei suddenly reciprocating towards the impending danger, it once again is suddenly destroying everything they have created. I mean its worse than Stannis killing Shereen.

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I know for a fact GRRM wont write something like that.

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Post by rincon Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:14 pm

It wasn't about Cersei. Everyone except Jon knows she won't give a crap about saving anyone but herself. It was about Dany and Tyrion. Neither actually believe Jon.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:24 pm

Spoiler:

D&D Master Writers :bow: Can't wait for their new show :bow:
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Post by Kaladin Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:28 pm

LMFAO

D&D were carried by the source material, absolute garbage writers
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Post by Freeza Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:36 pm

ES wrote:LMFAO

D&D were carried by the source material, absolute garbage writers


No such thing as carried by source material.
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Post by Kaladin Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:57 pm

There is
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:02 pm

System showrunners if there ever were any
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Post by Freeza Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:08 pm

Good grief Laughing
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Post by rincon Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:09 pm

the Busquets of tv shows
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Post by M99 Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:35 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:
Bellabong wrote:wouldn't really compliment GRRM's brain lol his best asoiaf books were basically a historical retelling of what happened in french history and now he has nothing to base on. There are longer denser and much more complicated epics out there written in a shorter period of time.

He's written beyond his abilities and at this point I think he's completely unmotivated.

Except for the fact that he's actually releasing TWO books in 2018. One a full history of the Targaryen family and the other Winds of Winter. Did you think he was just sitting around doing nothing?


Oh my sweet summer child.

The guy told his publishers he would be done by October 2015. Then after he missed that deadline his publishers told him its fine and they can release the book before season 6 if he finishes it before the end of the year. He said he was definitely going to manage that.

He didn't.

As a closing note in AFFC, he said ADWD will release next year. It got released six years later.
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Post by Glory Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:40 pm

rincon wrote:It wasn't about Cersei. Everyone except Jon knows she won't give a crap about saving anyone but herself. It was about Dany and Tyrion. Neither actually believe Jon.


If that was the case that should have been the primary reason for their expedition. Not some illogical bs like the one they eventually decided to go with. We can all clearly see what the real purpose was of the journey and I dont mind it being that way. But why do they have to deliberately ruin some of the characters by making them completely act out of character, in this particular case, say stupid shit. Tyrion is dead to me. I mean the guy was GOAT for 4 seasons. When he was on top of his game, GoT used to be simply brilliant. With his decline and when the focus was shifted solely onto Jon, show started falling down the cliff.


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Post by M99 Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:44 pm

RG is in Dubai for a month so BC is the new overlord for this thread.

BC do we really need to discuss the ep in spoiler tags considering everyone is this thread has seen it by now hmm
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Post by Kaladin Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:47 pm

Yes

Be mindful, RG could be browsing and mayber he hasn't seen it
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Post by M99 Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:54 pm

rincon wrote:It wasn't about Cersei. Everyone except Jon knows she won't give a crap about saving anyone but herself. It was about Dany and Tyrion. Neither actually believe Jon.


WTF it is about Cersei. Thats why Tyrion went to Kings Landing to speak to Jaime. Both Dany and Tyrion told Jon they believed him, they were just preoccupied with the war with Cersei more.

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Post by rincon Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:11 pm

M99 wrote:
rincon wrote:It wasn't about Cersei. Everyone except Jon knows she won't give a crap about saving anyone but herself. It was about Dany and Tyrion. Neither actually believe Jon.


WTF it is about Cersei. Thats why Tyrion went to Kings Landing to speak to Jaime. Both Dany and Tyrion told Jon they believed him, they were just preoccupied with the war with Cersei more.

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No it wasn't. No one that believes that an army of necromancers and undead is coming down to kill everyone cares about anything but that. No chance, unless you are completely mad, like Cersei.

The reality of the white walkers got shown from the first scene where the guy deserted the watch. Everyone that has come across them, or that believes it, drops absolutely everything but that. Wildlings, the watch, Jon, Mance, Melissandre, Beric, Thoros, even Stannis who 100% believed that he was the real king dropped everything and went north. The Hound took one look through the fire and went on a suicide mission. That's the guy said that "*bleep* the king" and has made being cynical about life, an art.

Tyrion, Dany, Varys and co. don't actually believe Jon. They sort of believe IN Jon (Tyrion mostly) but they don't actually accept what he is telling them. They let him mine dragonglass because it was a way to keep him busy and on their side, they even said it.

As they begin to believe Jon they pin needing proof on Cersei, but its also for them.

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Post by Blue Barrett Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:16 pm

Glory wrote:
silver wrote:Feel quite conflicted about that episode...

Spoiler:


Spoiler:
Spoiler:
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:24 pm

rincon wrote:
M99 wrote:
rincon wrote:It wasn't about Cersei. Everyone except Jon knows she won't give a crap about saving anyone but herself. It was about Dany and Tyrion. Neither actually believe Jon.


WTF it is about Cersei. Thats why Tyrion went to Kings Landing to speak to Jaime. Both Dany and Tyrion told Jon they believed him, they were just preoccupied with the war with Cersei more.

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No it wasn't. No one that believes that an army of necromancers and undead is coming down to kill everyone cares about anything but that. No chance, unless you are completely mad, like Cersei.

The reality of the white walkers got shown from the first scene where the guy deserted the watch. Everyone that has come across them, or that believes it, drops absolutely everything but that. Wildlings, the watch, Jon, Mance, Melissandre, Beric, Thoros, even Stannis who 100% believed that he was the real king dropped everything and went north. The Hound took one look through the fire and went on a suicide mission. That's the guy said that "*bleep* the king" and has made being cynical about life, an art.

Tyrion, Dany, Varys and co. don't actually believe Jon. They sort of believe IN Jon (Tyrion mostly) but they don't actually accept what he is telling them. They let him mine dragonglass because it was a way to keep him busy and on their side, they even said it.

As they begin to believe Jon they pin needing proof on Cersei, but its also for them.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Also...
Spoiler:
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Post by silver Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:37 pm

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Post by Kaladin Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:02 pm

From RG: "the episode had insane action but had garbage writing. Show is becoming predictable and full of fan service"

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Post by Freeza Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:04 pm

Show has been predictable for years though. Jon Snow has been the obvious hero of the story since the end of season 1.

If anyone believed he would die at any point and stay dead, they really need to check themselves.

It's incredible how much this show is judged on the shock value.

The writing hasn't really gotten worse imo. There's always been this level of writing. If you consider this garbage writing I deem you lucky, because it means you haven't watched truly bad writing.
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Post by Kaladin Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:11 pm

Did you see that image BC posted?

Its either a retcon or badwriting
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Post by Freeza Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:20 pm

ES wrote:Did you see that image BC posted?

Its either a retcon or badwriting


Don't remember that as her full quote. So it seems like a misquote to make a joke.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:31 pm

M99 wrote:RG is in Dubai for a month so BC is the new overlord for this thread.

BC do we really need to discuss the ep in spoiler tags considering everyone is this thread has seen it by now hmm
yeah keep using it, it takes literally 2 seconds of effort and we shouldn't assume everyone has seen the leaks
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Post by zigra Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:45 pm

Don't know why this discussion about the writing comes up now. Has been garbage level (no hyperbole at all, pls go) for a long while now.
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