Paul Pogba, the biggest fraud of our time?

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Post by Unique Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:41 pm

tbh and no trolling here but are we seeing pogba go from badly overated and over priced to being a out right scrub. I admit I don't watch every minute of every man u game but tbh I cant see what the guy brings to the party.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:43 pm

To be honest there's only one fraud at Man United, and it isn't Pogba. It's the guy standing on the sideline.
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Post by Firenze Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:43 pm

he isn't an outright scrub and walks into almost every midfield in the world

an outright scrub is Emre Can, Henderson, Xhaka, etc
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Post by Firenze Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:45 pm

I wonder if Mou fails to get CL qualifcation (be it via the league or Europa) he's sacked, I think he has another season regardless and I don't think Pogba will recover from 2 seasons being restricted like he is currently

could see him fulfilling his destiny and becoming the GOAT midfielder of his generation but it won't be under Mou
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:45 pm

Unique wrote:tbh and no trolling here but are we seeing pogba go from badly overated and over priced to being a out right scrub. I admit I don't watch every minute of every man u game but tbh I cant see what the guy brings to the party.


Pogba is a great young midfielder with strong athleticism and incredible technique.
Just because he's having a spell of poor form following a change of league and team, combined with insane hype and expectations, doesn't negate that.
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:46 pm

Firenze wrote:he isn't an outright scrub and walks into almost every midfield in the world

an outright scrub is Emre Can, Henderson, Xhaka, etc
can and Henderson are scrubs I agree but tbh Henderson has out performed pogba with ease this season and that's no joke.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:46 pm

I'd actually love him at Arsenal. I can't forget how much he carried me to division one title. Fifa wouldn't lie to me tbh.

He has talent for sure. Great talent even.


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Post by Unique Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:48 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Unique wrote:tbh and no trolling here but are we seeing pogba go from badly overated and over priced to being a out right scrub. I admit I don't watch every minute of every man u game but tbh I cant see what the guy brings to the party.


Pogba is a great young midfielder with strong athleticism and incredible technique.
Just because he's having a spell of poor form following a change of league and team, combined with insane hype and expectations, doesn't negate that.
maybe he is another player that cant hack it in the prem lge. he wont be the first and he wont be the last.
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Post by Firenze Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:50 pm

dude stop

Pogba had a spell where he was getting MOTM performances every game

Henderson sprays passes backwards in his own half and loses the ball when he attempts anything besides that

RG's he's unreal on FIFA, I think he has the second highest rating for a midfielder after Modric Laughing
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:53 pm

Firenze wrote:dude stop

Pogba had a spell where he was getting MOTM performances every game

Henderson sprays passes backwards in his own half and loses the ball when he attempts anything besides that

RG's he's unreal on FIFA, I think he has the second highest rating for a midfielder after Modric Laughing
coutinho also had a spell like that but you still call him a scrub. but as I said no joke here just look at the stats. Henderson has out performed pogba in everything.
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Post by Firenze Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:54 pm

I don't think I've ever called Coutinho a scrub. He's class. Although he has been shite since he came back from his injury.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:55 pm

Unique wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Unique wrote:tbh and no trolling here but are we seeing pogba go from badly overated and over priced to being a out right scrub. I admit I don't watch every minute of every man u game but tbh I cant see what the guy brings to the party.


Pogba is a great young midfielder with strong athleticism and incredible technique.
Just because he's having a spell of poor form following a change of league and team, combined with insane hype and expectations, doesn't negate that.
maybe he is another player that cant hack it in the prem lge. he wont be the first and he wont be the last.


He has already proven himself at a higher level than this poverty league tbh.
He was surrounded by a superior team, mind you.

Point in case, it's not always down to individuals.

Also, he's not similar to Henderson. The player at Liverpool who is comparable in style is Can, and we don't need to start talking about who's better here.
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Post by Nishankly Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:56 pm

Can has equal number of league goals in nearly half the starts hmm
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:58 pm

Nishankly wrote:Can has equal number of league goals in nearly half the starts hmm
boom. head shot cheers
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:00 pm

"head shot"?

regarding what?

You guys claiming Can is better than Pogba? rofl rofl

head shot indeed Laughing
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:00 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Unique wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:


Pogba is a great young midfielder with strong athleticism and incredible technique.
Just because he's having a spell of poor form following a change of league and team, combined with insane hype and expectations, doesn't negate that.
maybe he is another player that cant hack it in the prem lge. he wont be the first and he wont be the last.


He has already proven himself at a higher level than this poverty league tbh.
He was surrounded by a superior team, mind you.

Point in case, it's not always down to individuals.

Also, he's not similar to Henderson. The player at Liverpool who is comparable in style is Can, and we don't need to start talking about who's better here.
the thing people over look in the EPL is you have to be at your best to beat even the scrub teams. in other lges its not always like that. the EPL don't have the quality of some of the other lges but it is the most competitive.
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:02 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:"head shot"?

regarding what?

You guys claiming Can is better than Pogba? rofl rofl

head shot indeed Laughing
us guys are not claiming anything. but the truth is a scrub like Henderson is a better EPL player than pogba. Cool
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:06 pm

Unique wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Unique wrote:
maybe he is another player that cant hack it in the prem lge. he wont be the first and he wont be the last.


He has already proven himself at a higher level than this poverty league tbh.
He was surrounded by a superior team, mind you.

Point in case, it's not always down to individuals.

Also, he's not similar to Henderson. The player at Liverpool who is comparable in style is Can, and we don't need to start talking about who's better here.
the thing people over look in the EPL is you have to be at your best to beat even the scrub teams. in other lges its not always like that. the EPL don't have the quality of some of the other lges but it is the most competitive.


It's impossible for 'people' to 'overlook' this tired BS claim because clueless clowns like yourself, who frankly know *bleep* all about football in other leagues, keep repeating it ad nauseam, many of them on air with cameras pointed at them
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:16 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Unique wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:


He has already proven himself at a higher level than this poverty league tbh.
He was surrounded by a superior team, mind you.

Point in case, it's not always down to individuals.

Also, he's not similar to Henderson. The player at Liverpool who is comparable in style is Can, and we don't need to start talking about who's better here.
the thing people over look in the EPL is you have to be at your best to beat even the scrub teams. in other lges its not always like that. the EPL don't have the quality of some of the other lges but it is the most competitive.


It's impossible for 'people' to 'overlook' this tired BS claim because clueless clowns like yourself, who frankly know *bleep* all about football in other leagues, keep repeating it ad nauseam, many of them on air with cameras pointed at them
you should look at how many times the top teams in Germany. spain. Italy. france and Holland have won the title. man u have wont the title 20 times that's more than anyone. now count the titles for the rest of the most successful teams in Europe. that stat alone tells you the English lge is the most competitive. Chelsea will win the title but how often will they play a midweek game and just jog through the game and win 5-0 like Bayern. juve. madrid or barca. Chelsea will win them games and win the title but no way will they play at 50% and win by 4-5 goals.
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Post by rincon Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:19 pm

This is the most ridiculous delusion thrown around.

Leicester City won the title last year

That's how shit the teams are. Leicester had like a 10 point gap.

now Chelsea has a 10 point gap.

dat competitiveness :facepalm:
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Post by Unique Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:31 pm

rincon wrote:This is the most ridiculous delusion thrown around.

Leicester City won the title last year

That's how shit the teams are. Leicester had like a 10 point gap.

now Chelsea has a 10 point gap.

dat competitiveness :facepalm:
Leicester did not have a 10 point gap when they won the title. but my point is and it is a fact the champions of England will have harder games against the lower teams than the champions of france. Italy. spain. Germany and Holland. I admit that juve. barca. madrid. psg and Bayern are better than Chelsea. but in England Chelsea will have to work harder to win the title than the winners of the other lges.
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Post by zigra Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:59 pm

Firenze wrote:he isn't an outright scrub and walks into almost every midfield in the world

an outright scrub is Emre Can, Henderson, Xhaka, etc

Is the problem mate.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:07 am

FYI on fifa this year Pogba despite his stats is legit the worst over 80 rating midfielder i've used

Guy takes years to do anything, been a massive let down


Probably amazing on UT though.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:21 am

I'm not sure how Mourinho wants him to play... it looks confusing to me and it has to be confusing to Pogba. He doesn't have a well enough defined role. From what I can tell, he is asked to do whatever the others can't do... and that's too much given the lack of talent at CM other than Pogba.

Define a proper role for the guy and then see if he can shine at it.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:28 am

It's too much to ask of a player who isn't willing to do more than break into a jog for 90+ minutes Laughing

If it helps you come to terms with Pogba being a fraud, you can take comfort in the fact Kante is a GOAT.
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Post by Unique Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:30 am

sportsczy wrote:I'm not sure how Mourinho wants him to play... it looks confusing to me and it has to be confusing to Pogba.  He doesn't have a well enough defined role.  From what I can tell, he is asked to do whatever the others can't do...  and that's too much given the lack of talent at CM other than Pogba.

Define a proper role for the guy and then see if he can shine at it.
what roll would you give him
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