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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:19 am

Take away his goals and tell me they were masterclasses with a straight face Laughing

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Post by Doc on Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:36 am

They were masterclass performances. There. I said it.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:15 am

2 years in a row he is leaving his team without him for the return leg. Sure would be nice to have a masterclass defender help out Madrid in their hour of need and not a rash defender leaving his team without him, again  :whistle:

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Post by sportsczy on Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:32 am

Ramos can win and lose games for you on his own.  He's not a defender, he's not a striker...  he's this unique footballer who combines utter atrocity with epic heroism.

Some days you want to light a candle and thank (insert whatever deity or not you believe in) that he's on your team.... and others, you wish he had tripped sometime before the game had started so you didn't witness the sabotage he committed.

Strange player.  I feel differently about him every day lol.

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Post by rincon on Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:49 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:2 years in a row he is leaving his team without him for the return leg. Sure would be nice to have a masterclass defender help out Madrid in their hour of need and not a rash defender leaving his team without him, again  :whistle:

3 years in a row, he was suspended when we beat Madrid 1-3
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Post by M99 on Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:54 am

I don't think this red card was a screw up, he stopped what would have been a certain goal. Better to finish 1-2 with 10 men than 1-3 with 11 men. Real still have somewhat of a chance in the return leg with this scoreline. This was completely Casemiro's fault. He was uncharacteristically awful.

Him getting suspended intentionally and then Real losing 4-1 last year was prime comedy though.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:31 am

I don't think you'll ever find a Madrid fan in the entire solar system who would deny the fact that Ramos tends to make many stupid, sometimes even unnecessary, mistakes that cost us many games in the past. After all, there's a good reason he's one of the most red-carded players in the game.

But there's also a reason why he's so much respected and loved by Madrid fans and why he's highly rated by some rivals and sportsmen. Look no further than the godly performances he made against Bayern or the equalizer in the CL final against Atlético to know this man's true worth. If it wasn't for him, our trophy cabinet would be slightly different from the one we have right now.

He may have single-handedly made us lose many games, but his contributions outweigh those bad moments by a country mile.

You want to place your CB above him? Go ahead, but please call me when your CB helps you bring home 4 CLs and display the kind of leadership that I myself haven't seen since Casillas left the Bernabeu.

I would choose him over any CB in this generation ten times over. yeah I said it.

Ramos is Madrid, with all his flaws. He's our hero, our legend, a true goddamn royal white.


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Post by Doc on Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:15 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:2 years in a row he is leaving his team without him for the return leg. Sure would be nice to have a masterclass defender help out Madrid in their hour of need and not a rash defender leaving his team without him, again  :whistle:

And for the 3 years prior to that, he was leading his team to UCL glory. I don't think you guys truly understand the duality that is Sergio "it's Ramos time" Ramos aka Bill's grandson.

The man is masterclass and fucking ridiculous rolled up in one. Allow it imo.

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Post by Myesyats on Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:24 am

I'm inclined to agree. His "heroism", dedication and leadership is admirable even in spite of some glaring flaws. He is the type of player every team needs, maybe a little too hot-headed but he can lift the team with his spirit, no doubt.
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Post by VivaStPauli on Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:43 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:But there's also a reason why he's so much respected and loved by Madrid fans and why he's highly rated by some rivals and sportsmen. Look no further than the godly performances he made against Bayern or the equalizer in the CL final against Atlético to know this man's true worth. If it wasn't for him, our trophy cabinet would be slightly different from the one we have right now.

With VAR back in the day, or a ref that didn't feel intimidated by Ramos' celebrity status, or his position as team captain, he would've been sent off in both those matches, if you're honestly looking at it again with a few year's distance.

You want to place your CB above him? Go ahead, but please call me when your CB helps you bring home 4 CLs and display the kind of leadership that I myself haven't seen since Casillas left the Bernabeu.

I would choose him over any CB in this generation ten times over. yeah I said it.

Ramos is Madrid, with all his flaws. He's our hero, our legend, a true goddamn royal white.


Ramos is a fucking thug living by the grace of refs, propped up by your billion dollar squad, if Madrid didn't spend 500 million on their midfield Ramos would be even more exposed than he already is, if you placed him in a mediocre midfield, like say at Arsenal or Tottenham, you would be foaming at the mouth about how shit a defender he is.

Say nothing of his utter thuggery, unsportsmanlike behaviour and outright cheating, he's not someone to be admired. I wouldn't want my kid to play like Ramos, a bully, a cheater, and bad at his job, even if his grit and motivation is something to be admired, the other aspects of his play and personality are not.
I understand liking him in the partisan way of being a Real fan, but no fan of football should admire a man like Ramos. He's as close to a criminal as you can be in football. I'd rather cheer for fucking Mark van Bommel.

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Post by Freeza on Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:09 pm

Our starting midfield cost like 60m combined.

Also Ramos is by no means protected by the refs. Stop forming an opinion about someone when you obviously don't watch them regularly enough.

You don't get his amount of red cards with protections. Every time he escapes without a card there's a similar situation, like against Jesus Wednesday where he gets an undeserved red.

But then again I'm always very biased towards Ramos and supports him all the time.

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Post by Myesyats on Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:55 pm

The one who really is protected by refs is that POS Casemiro. He's been getting away with so much shit in the last 2 seasons. Probably should have seen as many reds as Ramos.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:52 pm

I see that Freeza beat me to it.

Look, I understand where VivaStPauli is coming from. When you don't watch Madrid regularly and then tune in for the big games, chances are you'll see a douchey moment from Ramos.

But as someone who watches Madrid pretty much all the time, I can assure you that Ramos doesn't get away with yellows and reds. He's the most red-carded player in the league and he has been sent off many times even in the clasico. There's definitely no star status here, and if there's, it's definitely not working with the referees.

I can't of course pretend that he NEVER gets away with it. Sometimes there are cases where you feel he should've been sanctioned but nothing happens,but that's also applicable to pretty much any player in the game and it has nothing to do with his "celebrity status" as you seem to think.

Ramos is not getting any special treatment here.

But as a Madrid fan, I really love his devotion, his loyalty, his grit and his strong spirit that lifts up the whole team during our darkest moments. This mold of players doesn't come around every full moon, and he is definitely the best leader we've had since Casillas. And to top it all, he also scores goals. I can't really ask for more from a CB.

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Post by futbol_bill on Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:10 pm

stop picking on my grandson!
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Post by Doc on Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:23 pm

@Freeza wrote:Our starting midfield cost like 60m combined.

Also Ramos is by no means protected by the refs. Stop forming an opinion about someone when you obviously don't watch them regularly enough.

You don't get his amount of red cards with protections. Every time he escapes without a card there's a similar situation, like against Jesus Wednesday where he gets an undeserved red.

But then again I'm always very biased towards Ramos and supports him all the time.

Your bias towards Ramos, Bale and Lucas Vasquez is well documented tbh.

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Post by El Gunner on Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:32 pm

This man has to be the clutchest goalscoring defender of all time right?
Insane how many times he comes up big for his team.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:37 pm

Best defender in history

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Post by Lucifer on Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:45 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Best defender in history

Of?

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Post by RealGunner on Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:47 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Best defender in history


you're goddamn right
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Post by Pedram on Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:02 pm

This fucking guy :bow:

Single-handedly winning the league for us.
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