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Post by Luca Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:56 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Was dead certain Inter would be 10 points clear of Juve now. What a team, almost unstoppable.


Well, they definitely have a more talented group than Juventus, as confirmed by prominent experts who know more than you and I combined.


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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:16 pm

Unreal 2nd half by Inter :bow:

Icardi is insane. Also this might be one of Banega's best performances of the season.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:20 pm

It's a shame I haven't see Inter play regularly to make my own assessment, but judging from numbers alone, Icardi is one heck of a player.

I thought Higuain was Seria A's top scorer, but I was wrong, it's Icardi. And considering the overall quality of the service he gets, it's quite impressive that he's managed to score more than anybody else in the league.

Once again, I haven't seen him play enough to make a fair analysis, so I could be wrong about him. Still, I think his numbers would be even more impressive if he was surrounded by world class players.

I should probably keep an eye on him.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:26 pm

Higuain is definitely more complete but Icardi is the best 9 in Serie A IMO.

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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:36 pm

Is Fraud De Boer the worst manager in the world ?
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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:37 pm

rincon wrote:The worst. This is without a doubt the biggest flop signing in a long time for a hyped player coming into Serie A.

Mario Gomez lol
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Post by rincon Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:54 pm

Robespierre wrote:Is Fraud De Boer the worst manager in the world ?


Robes Proud

There were too many people criticizing his sacking and Pioli's appointment. De Boer was a trainwreck in Serie A.
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Post by rincon Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:58 pm

@TheDemonofCarthage

Icardi is amazing. I say it all the time when the topic comes up, best young CF no doubt. He barely gets service and always delivers. If his off the field attitude wasn't so terrible I would have loved him at Juve.

@RealGunner
Higuain is the best 9, not because he is a better finisher but like you say he is more complete. I said before that Icardi would have pulled similar numbers with Napoli (although not broken the record). But Higuain brings a lot more to the table. Icardi will get there though, best CF talent there is.
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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:03 pm

I don't get the hatred towards Kondogbia today tbh
He played a good match , 6.5/7 vote
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Post by Katy Perry Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:05 pm

He just strikes me as a complete average player in every footballing aspect except his phisique. Gaby Mudingay v2
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Post by rincon Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:06 pm

The second half he improved as all of Inter did, but the first half the game passed him by. Which is the case too often, he doesn't intervene enough, and when he does he makes a bad decision too often.

Too much of a passenger when he should be the one putting the workrate out there.
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Post by rincon Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:10 pm

Looking at players who play in front of the defense in any teams near the top of the table, Kondogbia is worse than most. Thinking of 10 teams in such positions all these have performed better than him imo.

Marchisio
De Rossi/Strootman
Jorginho/Diawara
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Post by breva Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:33 pm

Inter have a talented rosa, they need a capable manager. Maybe Pioli will turn out half decent.
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Post by Robespierre Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:01 am

But Kondogbia is not even a starter in Inter , Medel (and I ma not talking about Mascherano ) is the starter.
He is scrub, but he played a very good match today. He doesn't deserve to be criticized even today ... Inter system is working so even Melo or Kondogbia make sense atm
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Post by breva Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:19 am

If Kondogbia is such I scrub, why in the devil does Chelsea want him? Chelsea is not a poor club, they can buy almost anyone they want. I agree that he currently appears out of his depth, but.
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Post by Robespierre Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:47 am

Chelsea don't want him,  O.Marseille want him but he doesn't lke the idea.

Anyway am I the only one to not rate Rincon  (the Player , non the GL user Laughing ) ?
Big teams want him but for me he can just make the fouls.
Perfect for the Genoa system based on aggressiveness
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Post by Kick Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:14 am

breva wrote:If Kondogbia is such I scrub, why in the devil does Chelsea want him? Chelsea is not a poor club, they can buy almost anyone they want. I agree that he currently appears out of his depth, but.


The rumours linking him to us were BS Laughing
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Post by juve_gigi Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:27 am

Why would Conte want that scrub when he is after Vidal? :coffee:
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Post by breva Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:51 am

Kick wrote:
breva wrote:If Kondogbia is such I scrub, why in the devil does Chelsea want him? Chelsea is not a poor club, they can buy almost anyone they want. I agree that he currently appears out of his depth, but.


The rumours linking him to us were BS Laughing


Sure they were. Very Happy
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Post by rincon Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:14 am

Robespierre wrote:
Anyway am I the only one to not rate Rincon  (the Player , non the GL user Laughing ) ?
Big teams want him but for me he can just make the fouls.
Perfect for the Genoa system based on aggressiveness


He is not a world beater or anything, but I sure would like him over Hernanes or Lemina as a back up.
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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:22 pm

Dont follow follow Serie A that closely, but curious that Lazio manager is Pippo Inzahgi? How is that going? He always just came across as the no brains no.9 that relied on beating the offside trap Razz Doesnt seem like a guy who is complete enough to manage top level team?
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Post by Katy Perry Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:30 pm

BarcaLearning wrote:Dont follow follow Serie A that closely, but curious that Lazio manager is Pippo Inzahgi? How is that going? He always just came across as the no brains no.9 that relied on beating the offside trap Razz Doesnt seem like a guy who is complete enough to manage top level team?


I hope I won't get banned when I create multiple accounts just to vote this in the post of the year poll
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Post by Robespierre Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:40 pm

I don't think Kondogbia is so terrible tbh.
He is underachiever because of expectations, he was paid the price worthy of   a top player and he still earns as a top player . It's basically due to capitalism ,we need ot socialist society tbh...
Probably if he played in an average team as Genoa we'd talk about the new thing, I've doubts he is worse than Rincon (30 years, who knew him before this year ? The Venezuelan players is  typical player that emerges just on certain contexts )
Still I think Kondogbia ' d perform on another place, here it's late to change his history.
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Post by rincon Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:58 pm

BarcaLearning wrote:Dont follow follow Serie A that closely, but curious that Lazio manager is Pippo Inzahgi? How is that going? He always just came across as the no brains no.9 that relied on beating the offside trap Razz Doesnt seem like a guy who is complete enough to manage top level team?


Thats Pippo's brother Simone Inzaghi Very Happy

Pippo himself briefly coached AC Milan and was pretty terrible. Simone on the other hand looks like a very promising coach and is doing good things with Lazio.
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Post by Katy Perry Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:00 pm

He was on the brink of signing for a Serie B team too. Bielsa backpedaling out of Lazio's previously agreed contract made him stay this season.
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Post by Warrior Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:01 pm

Kondogbia been mediocre for a while now, i don't even know why this is being put into question because of one decent match... will end up in mid-table Ligue 1 team sooner than later Thumbs up

If it wasn't of his heavy price tag he would have been sold & labeled as a flop a long time ago without second thought.
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