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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:57 pm

This is why it's so easy to label all of "the West" as hypocrites; even countries that have been pacifist AF for decades now, like Austria, or Luxemburg, sell arms by the boat load to those theocratic loons. Truly embarassing.

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Post by LeVersacci Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:19 pm

https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/842509968897138688
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Post by RealGunner Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:04 pm

FBI director James Comey has confirmed for the first time that the FBI is investigating alleged Russian government interference in the 2016 election.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39324587
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Post by Lucifer Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:18 pm

So what do we get from the hearing?

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Post by Lucifer Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:16 pm

Guy was fake tweeting while hearing was going on. rofl

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Post by Nishankly Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:13 am

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Post by Unique Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:10 pm

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the funny thing is all American presidents would get charged with some crime or other if only the FBI looked into them all instead of picking on only one. looks to me like the losers cant take it and are doing all they can to get trump out.
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Post by Nishankly Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:47 pm

That's good.
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Post by Lucifer Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:06 pm

We got our own Trump, in yogi adityanath @Nishank.

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Post by Nishankly Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:35 pm

Lucifer wrote:We got our own Trump, in yogi adityanath @Nishank.


Lmao BJP are so clever, In a way they are fascists but they are improving the country side by side. Dunno where to place them hmm
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Post by Unique Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:48 pm

Nishankly wrote:That's good.
what is ?
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Post by Nishankly Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:55 pm

That they are taking him out. He's being showing continuously that he is incompetent to rule The United States of America.

If ya'll want to vote for lads with a thinking like that, That's fine but atleast find one that has some brains and doesnt make you and your family's life worse in the name of security.
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Post by Unique Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:07 pm

Nishankly wrote:That they are taking him out. He's being showing continuously that he is incompetent to rule The United States of America.

If ya'll want to vote for lads with a thinking like that, That's fine but atleast find one that has some brains and doesnt make you and your family's life worse in the name of security.
you could be right. trump could turn out to be the biggest idiot in history. but what will happen to Americas freedom and democracy if the government tell the people to vote for a president and then say you can have the one you vote for as long as we agree with him. if not we will just find a way to get rid of your man and get our own one in anyway. is it not worth just letting trump serve 1 term to save everything America says it stands for.
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Post by rincon Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:20 pm

Its not "you can have the one you vote for as long as we agree with him"

its "you can have the one you vote for as long as he is not breaking every law in sight"

What kind of argument is this lmao. The president shouldn't be above the law. If he is suspected of treason then he sure as hell needs to be investigated.
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Post by Lucifer Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:24 pm

Nishankly wrote:
Lucifer wrote:We got our own Trump, in yogi adityanath @Nishank.


Lmao BJP are so clever, In a way they are fascists but they are improving the country side by side. Dunno where to place them hmm

I would place BJP to extreme right hmm  the guywho ordered his men to rape muslim women is Cheif minister of India's largest state. rofl how did we get here ffs. the guy is Alfa af, I doubt even Modi would be able to control him.

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Post by Unique Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:29 pm

rincon wrote:Its not "you can have the one you vote for as long as we agree with him"

its "you can have the one you vote for as long as he is not breaking every law in sight"

What kind of argument is this lmao. The president shouldn't be above the law. If he is suspected of treason then he sure as hell needs to be investigated.
that's my point. if the FBI investigated every president they would find something on all of them so why only investigate trump. you cant be in a position where you can be president without doing something dodgy or illegal. but like I said if your the guy they want there will be no investigation and things will get hushed up. if you are not the right guy things will get leaked and you will get investigated. how America thinks nobody can see what goes on is the biggest joke of all. now you either have a democracy or you don't. but you cant pick and choose when to have one. it was better when they just assassinated the people they don't want to see have any power at least they could blame it on some patsy who would end up dead anyway.
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Post by rincon Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:39 pm

So you are cool with a president conducting treason just because he got votes?
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Post by Unique Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:50 pm

rincon wrote:So you are cool with a president conducting treason just because he got votes?
no. But why only investigate trump. Watch Michael moore Fahrenheit 9/11 and tell me how George bush was not arrested by the FBI and you will see the point I'm trying to make.
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Post by rincon Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:54 pm

Doesn't really matter. All should be investigated.

Letting Trump commit treason because someone else did something bad in the past is ridiculous.
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Post by Unique Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:01 pm

rincon wrote:Doesn't really matter. All should be investigated.

Letting Trump commit treason because someone else did something bad in the past is ridiculous.
I agree they all should have been investigated. But it's plain to see the American government don't care what the president does as long as he is the man they want. But people like yourself also didn't care what other presidents did you only care what trump does because you didn't want him to win.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:04 pm

rincon wrote:So you are cool with a president conducting treason just because he got votes?


Cool it with the treason talk please. That's a big word.

It's the one thing that annoys me most about the left's reaction to Trump -the blaming-it-on-the-red-menace part.

So now all of a sudden people who have a talk with the Russian ambassador are traitors?
This sounds like McCarthyism.
People shouldn't get caught up in this McCarthyite stuff just because they are frustrated and shocked.

The American people voted Trump in all on their own, the Democrats *bleep* it up all on their own.

Time to own up instead of blaming it on the *bleep* Russians.
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Post by Unique Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:13 pm

Also has it been proven that trump has done anything wrong. or is it just the witch hunt that it looks like.
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Post by rincon Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:16 pm

@Hans

I'm not the left, and in all my posts on this page it says not just Trump but everyone.

Its an investigation. If an investigation is worth doing then why the hell not do it?

The FBI determined that there was enough for them to launch an official investigation. Saying that they shouldn't, or whatever, is ridiculous. If the body that is responsible for these things finds it appropriate to investigate the president himself, then let them do it.

If he is innocent then great, that would probably save everyone a lot of hassle. If he is guilty then he must follow the due process with it.

Be it Trump, Obama, Merkel, Erdogan or whoever else.

Getting elected for public office should never be used as an excuse for breaking the law like this. Its what you hear a lot in countries run by tyrants and autocrats by supporters of these regimes. The president gets accused of breaking X law, then his people rally saying that he won the election and bla bla bla.


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Post by rincon Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:16 pm

Unique wrote:Also has it been proven that trump has done anything wrong. or is it just the witch hunt that it looks like.

Its the beginning of an official investigation.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:21 pm

rincon wrote:@Hans

I'm not the left, and in all my posts on this page it says not just Trump but everyone.


It goes without saying that everyone breaking the law should be investigated equally.

It also goes without saying that of course this principle is not true in reality.
People in power break laws all the time without being punished, on top of their ability to shape laws to their advantage.

But that only as an aside.

Of course it's good that Trump is investigated.

But I just don't like the readiness (and I'm not talking about you personally) with whom people suddenly throw a word like treason around.
Especially people on the left (and I am part of the left, so I'm talking about my 'side') who should be very wary and suspicious of this line of argument,
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Post by Freeza Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:26 pm

I'd call his cuts from Arts, health care, education etc. treason. It's condemning the less fortunate and a much bigger problem than the other problems.

He has gone against everything he's said during his campaign, like most of us knew he would. But it isn't fair for his entire base of voters who'll suffer more than anyone with these new budgetary cuts.
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