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Post by CBarca on Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:21 pm

Someone's success even as a black person, or brown person, or whatever color, doesn't speak to the absence of racism in a country.

USA is racist, as is the UK. Both have a lot of extremely talented and popular black individuals.

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Post by Unique on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:33 pm

every country in the world is racist but it seems britain and the US are the only ones that take flack for it.

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Post by Unique on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:35 pm

tbh when it comes to racism people are better off just living with it because the world has 0% chance to eradicate it.

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Post by Zagadka on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:36 pm

@CBarca wrote:Someone's success even as a black person, or brown person, or whatever color, doesn't speak to the absence of racism in a country.

USA is racist, as is the UK. Both have a lot of extremely talented and popular black individuals.


Every country is racist in its own way.

This is the rule of the world.

Every people group deserve a homeland. Everyone is entitled to special advantages in their homeland. Some call it "privilege".

Joe Smith may be privileged in Sunderland.....but Abdullah-Al-Jassim is hell privileged in Jeddah (should Mr. Smith move to Saudi Arabia), and Jay Jay O'Bafang is more privileged in Lagos should all mr. Smith, Al-Jassim abd O'Bafang apply for the same job and opportunity for a job in Lagos, Nigeria.

If all 3 of them live in Nagoya and apply for a job at Toyota, you could bet your ass Hidetoshi Tuksemono is more privileged than all of them and will likely take the job all things equal.


It's the law of the world. You're a tall lanky white guy CBarca (From what I remember).....if I drop you to Chengdu (China), or Tshikapa (Congo DR), trust me you'll experience severe racism in both places, maybe lucky to stay alive over a week.

Racism isn't just a white thing. Plenty of Indians and Arabs and Persians are racist towards who they see beneath them. It's a chain and depends on the setting and the situation.

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Post by Unique on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:36 pm

@CBarca wrote:Someone's success even as a black person, or brown person, or whatever color, doesn't speak to the absence of racism in a country.

USA is racist, as is the UK. Both have a lot of extremely talented and popular black individuals.
so you admit that black people get the same chance as everyone else then. so racism cant be that bad can it.

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Post by Unique on Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:38 pm

@Zagadka wrote:
@CBarca wrote:Someone's success even as a black person, or brown person, or whatever color, doesn't speak to the absence of racism in a country.

USA is racist, as is the UK. Both have a lot of extremely talented and popular black individuals.


Every country is racist in its own way.

This is the rule of the world.

Every people group deserve a homeland. Everyone is entitled to special advantages in their homeland. Some call it "privilege".

Joe Smith may be privileged in Sunderland.....but Abdullah-Al-Jassim is hell privileged in Jeddah (should Mr. Smith move to Saudi Arabia), and Jay Jay O'Bafang is more privileged in Lagos should all mr. Smith, Al-Jassim abd O'Bafang apply for the same job and opportunity for a job in Lagos, Nigeria.

If all 3 of them live in Nagoya and apply for a job at Toyota, you could bet your ass Hidetoshi Tuksemono is more privileged than all of them and will likely take the job all things equal.


It's the law of the world. You're a tall lanky white guy CBarca (From what I remember).....if I drop you to Chengdu (China), or Tshikapa (Congo DR), trust me you'll experience severe racism in both places, maybe lucky to stay alive over a week.

Racism isn't just a white thing. Plenty of Indians and Arabs and Persians are racist towards who they see beneath them. It's a chain and depends on the setting and the situation.

best post on racism ive seen on this forum. :bow: :bow:

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Post by Young Kaz on Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:19 pm

@Zagadka wrote:

It's the law of the world. You're a tall lanky white guy CBarca (From what I remember).....if I drop you to Chengdu (China), or Tshikapa (Congo DR), trust me you'll experience severe racism in both places, maybe lucky to stay alive over a week.

Racism isn't just a white thing. Plenty of Indians and Arabs and Persians are racist towards who they see beneath them. It's a chain and depends on the setting and the situation.



You are acting like Chinese people are savages. Are you aware of how many Tall lanky white guys(Most of whom are sexpats trying to rape kids....just keeping it 100) are in China right now who live and thrive?

China is one of the safest countries on Earth:


How about keeping Asians out of your mouth unless it comes from a place you know well....Like the place that had to be forced to let women attend football matches JUST this year.
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Post by Unique on Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:09 am

@Young Kaz wrote:
@Zagadka wrote:

It's the law of the world. You're a tall lanky white guy CBarca (From what I remember).....if I drop you to Chengdu (China), or Tshikapa (Congo DR), trust me you'll experience severe racism in both places, maybe lucky to stay alive over a week.

Racism isn't just a white thing. Plenty of Indians and Arabs and Persians are racist towards who they see beneath them. It's a chain and depends on the setting and the situation.



You are acting like Chinese people are savages. Are you aware of how many Tall lanky white guys(Most of whom are sexpats trying to rape kids....just keeping it 100) are in China right now who live and thrive?

China is one of the safest countries on Earth:


How about keeping Asians out of your mouth unless it comes from a place you know well....Like the place that had to be forced to let women attend football matches JUST this year.
china is safe you say Laughing Laughing

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Post by Myesyats on Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:21 am

@Unique wrote:china is safe you say Laughing Laughing

Unreal. Thats how propaganda works.

In Poland at the time of WW2 they'd say on the radio that life was perfect in the Reich and it was the Poles who killed and gassed Jews.

A lie repeated a thousand times starts to become the truth.
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Post by Young Kaz on Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:28 am

You all talk about propaganda yet have nothing to say to the guy who says, with a straight face, that a white person would be lucky to come back from China alive after a week? Neutral

Who the fuck even says something like that? How depraved do you have to think Chinese people are sitting around with sticks and stones ready to kill a white man?

Unique you should know better in particular. Your nation's history is filled with white men who went to China, spent a lot longer than a week, and came back all the better.

Sepi posted anti Asian propaganda with his post.  Speaking about Nagoya(the capital of my families region going back centuries) about how a Japanese man would have privilege like our car companies arent full of Koreans...Like Korean managers arent hiring their own there. Its bollocks.
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Post by Unique on Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:24 am

@Young Kaz wrote:You all talk about propaganda yet have nothing to say to the guy who says, with a straight face, that a white person would be lucky to come back from China alive after a week? Neutral

Who the fuck even says something like that? How depraved do you have to think Chinese people are sitting around with sticks and stones ready to kill a white man?

Unique you should know better in particular. Your nation's history is filled with white men who went to China, spent a lot longer than a week, and came back all the better.

Sepi posted anti Asian propaganda with his post.  Speaking about Nagoya(the capital of my families region going back centuries) about how a Japanese man would have privilege like our car companies arent full of Koreans...Like Korean managers arent hiring their own there. Its bollocks.
are you not aware of the human rights abuse in china mate. are you not aware of the foreign people that are locked up and beaten and killed in china. if a foreign man goes to china and pisses on the wrong street he is history.

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Post by Young Kaz on Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:49 am

@Unique wrote:
@Young Kaz wrote:You all talk about propaganda yet have nothing to say to the guy who says, with a straight face, that a white person would be lucky to come back from China alive after a week? Neutral

Who the fuck even says something like that? How depraved do you have to think Chinese people are sitting around with sticks and stones ready to kill a white man?

Unique you should know better in particular. Your nation's history is filled with white men who went to China, spent a lot longer than a week, and came back all the better.

Sepi posted anti Asian propaganda with his post.  Speaking about Nagoya(the capital of my families region going back centuries) about how a Japanese man would have privilege like our car companies arent full of Koreans...Like Korean managers arent hiring their own there. Its bollocks.
are you not aware of the human rights abuse in china mate. are you not aware of the foreign people that are locked up and beaten and killed in china. if a foreign man goes to china and pisses on the wrong street he is history.


This is fake news.

Find me one example of a "Human rights abuse" happening against lanky tall white people in modern day China.

As a Japanese descended person I have my bias against China, but its absurd people can honestly sit here and think a white American would be lucky to come back alive after 1 week in a nation that gave us spaghetti, tea, Fucking paper, and the goldfish. Dont you know most of what we know in this world was either invented by them, or by people trying to find/trade/copy them? The very country I, and the American he was referencing, sit in today was founded because White men were trying to find a quicker way to get to China...but now you'd be lucky to come back after a week alive?

You know how crazy this sounds? Laughing
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Post by Unique on Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:39 am

@Young Kaz wrote:
@Unique wrote:
@Young Kaz wrote:You all talk about propaganda yet have nothing to say to the guy who says, with a straight face, that a white person would be lucky to come back from China alive after a week? Neutral

Who the fuck even says something like that? How depraved do you have to think Chinese people are sitting around with sticks and stones ready to kill a white man?

Unique you should know better in particular. Your nation's history is filled with white men who went to China, spent a lot longer than a week, and came back all the better.

Sepi posted anti Asian propaganda with his post.  Speaking about Nagoya(the capital of my families region going back centuries) about how a Japanese man would have privilege like our car companies arent full of Koreans...Like Korean managers arent hiring their own there. Its bollocks.
are you not aware of the human rights abuse in china mate. are you not aware of the foreign people that are locked up and beaten and killed in china. if a foreign man goes to china and pisses on the wrong street he is history.


This is fake news.

Find me one example of a "Human rights abuse" happening against lanky tall white people in modern day China.

As a Japanese descended person I have my bias against China, but its absurd people can honestly sit here and think a white American would be lucky to come back alive after 1 week in a nation that gave us spaghetti, tea, Fucking paper, and the goldfish. Dont you know most of what we know in this world was either invented by them, or by people trying to find/trade/copy them? The very country I, and the American he was referencing, sit in today was founded because White men were trying to find a quicker way to get to China...but now you'd be lucky to come back after a week alive?

You know how crazy this sounds? Laughing
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Post by Zagadka on Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:52 am

There was a reason I mentioned Shenyang (a random city in China - turned out my first example Chengdu is capital of middle China Very Happy ) and not Shanghai or Beijing or Shenzhen.

Indeed, there are many white people working in those places, those are international hubs and there are many expats there and they are safe.

but if you're a foreigner (WHITE, BLACK, PURPLE, BROWN) in a super Chinese city with little to no exposure to foreigners, then life is VERY hard. You'll be taken for a ride in terms of fraud, discrimination, etc. and not to mention the gangs.

Very interesting that Betty is promiting the idea of pan-Asianism, when in reality most Asians don't like the sight of each other.

I work with Koreans, Chinese and Japanese here...they never have nice things about each other to say Very Happy .

The Chinese are the most interesting in that aspect, that I was teaching this group of Chinese engineers that had come from a SUPER chinese city (let's say Shenyang), and I wanted to introduce them to European culture. I kid you not, these people were in their 30s, married with kids, and they didn't know who HITLER was!!!

I need to know what they study in Chinese history books Very Happy
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Post by Zagadka on Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:00 am

Ozil deleted from China's FIFA Online & Pro Evolution Soccer video games after Uighur Muslim comments

https://www.goal.com/en-qa/news/ozil-deleted-chinas-fifa-pro-evolution-soccer-video-games-uighur-/nkzcqfpqxl231ebtqzsoajrow


Just last week, China literally ordered Ozil to be deleted from all versions of video games in the country, DELETE (basically un-personing him) over an Instagram post he made.

Yea, completely normal behavior Very Happy

There is a reason that out of 100 people who visit Japan and China, 99 of them will say Japanese are much nicer, more polite, they felt much safer there, and it's a more pleasant place and if they could go back to one, it'd easily be Japan. And no, it isn't racism against the Chinese.
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:33 am

Betty lol. Do you think, in the age of Internet, that we will fall for your BS? China is a wannabe Nazi regime that accumulated their riches and became powerful by exploiting cheap labor (nearing slavery, i'd presume). But they have giant pandas, so that's one positive. I envy them for that, would love to see one out in the wild.
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Post by elitedam on Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:05 pm

A white guy would be lucky to stay alive in China for a week. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Just when you thought GL off-topic couldn't get more stupid...
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Post by Zagadka on Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:13 pm

>> I literally just explained the context, Elitedam,. Loool.

Typical GL Very Happy , merry Christmas all Smile

Btw, I’m not 100 percent against Chinese main party. I think they’ve done some incredible things to lift majority of their population from poverty over the last 3 decades. It’s not always been pretty, but they’ve been very efficient and credit when due.

But let’s not pretend all is rosy there. In China, the Chinese and the Chinese Chinese rule and I have no problem with it. Their country!! But let’s no pretend it’s some utopian place super tolerant of stranger cultures, people and ideologies lol.
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Post by elitedam on Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:26 pm

if I drop you to Chengdu (China), or Tshikapa (Congo DR), trust me you'll experience severe racism in both places, maybe lucky to stay alive over a week.

and

but if you're a foreigner (WHITE, BLACK, PURPLE, BROWN) in a super Chinese city with little to no exposure to foreigners, then life is VERY hard. You'll be taken for a ride in terms of fraud, discrimination, etc. and not to mention the gangs.

Are two different things.

The first one is beyond moronic. There is no context that can explain that horseshit.
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Post by Young Kaz on Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:12 pm

@Zagadka wrote:>> I literally just explained the context, Elitedam,. Loool.

Typical GL Very Happy , merry Christmas all Smile

Btw, I’m not 100 percent against Chinese main party. I think they’ve done some incredible things to lift majority of their population from poverty over the last 3 decades. It’s not always been pretty, but they’ve been very efficient and credit when due.

But let’s not pretend all is rosy there. In China, the Chinese and the Chinese Chinese rule and I have no problem with it. Their country!! But let’s no pretend it’s some utopian place super tolerant of stranger cultures, people and ideologies lol.


It not being "All rosy" and the idea that a white guy like cbarca, an american none the less, would be lucky to come back from china after 1 week alive is absurd.

Do you know what the Chinese Government would do to a person who killed an American tourist within their country? They would have a state-sanctioned bullet put in the back of their head within a month, and the CCP would be paying restitution to the family of the dead long before the US government requested anything.

To suggest anything else is just a fundamental lack of Han culture, and Confucius ideals.
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Post by Young Kaz on Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:25 pm

@Zagadka wrote:Ozil deleted from China's FIFA Online & Pro Evolution Soccer video games after Uighur Muslim comments

https://www.goal.com/en-qa/news/ozil-deleted-chinas-fifa-pro-evolution-soccer-video-games-uighur-/nkzcqfpqxl231ebtqzsoajrow


Just last week, China literally ordered Ozil to be deleted from all versions of video games in the country, DELETE (basically un-personing him) over an Instagram post he made.

Yea, completely normal behavior Very Happy

There is a reason that out of 100 people who visit Japan and China, 99 of them will say Japanese are much nicer, more polite, they felt much safer there, and it's a more pleasant place and if they could go back to one, it'd easily be Japan. And no, it isn't racism against the Chinese.


Its because a person going to Japan knows they are dealing with a defeated people. We cant even have a military ffs. Nobody respects Japanese people. Our movies in the west cant even get Japanese male stars.

When someone goes to China, after stepping off the plane, they immediately come into contact with a nation of over a billion people who not only think they are on the same level as anybody in the world, but in many cases think they are better. Its almost like visiting America.

They have their own soft power.
They have their foreign bases
They have one of, if not the, best militaries the world has ever seen.

I mean I have seen an American serviceman slap the shit out of a man in Yaesu, which is like downtown Tokyo. Nothing happened to this guy at all. People just stood there stunned. Police didnt even do anything. Could you imagine that happening in downtown Beijing. Never in a million years, but thats because they arent as you say cucked.
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Post by Zagadka on Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:20 pm

^ You know what Betty, we have our differences, but this is actually a very good post. You put it in an interesting way adn I have to say I agree with almost all of it. China is definitely alpha and that's my point that you can't fuck around with them in their land.

+1 from me for your post.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:37 pm

UK politics spanning the whole wide world

wasn't aware that the Empire is back

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Post by Unique on Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:41 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:UK politics spanning the whole wide world

wasn't aware that the Empire is back
it never went away mate.

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Post by Young Kaz on Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:43 am

@Zagadka wrote:^ You know what Betty, we have our differences, but this is actually a very good post. You put it in an interesting way adn I have to say I agree with almost all of it. China is definitely alpha and that's my point that you can't fuck around with them in their land.

+1 from me for your post.


+1 back because you notice it and dont act like its not happening like many people do. I went back to my grandpa and his girlfriend's house incensed, and even she was like "Who cares"....Its just so engrained into society.

Thats one thing that bothers me with the gf. She is just so passive. I understand being that way out and public and whatnot, but you'd think with your family or someone close you'd have some say. I was at their house last time I was over there. We were sitting in the main room watching some drama, and her sister just came in and turned on baseball. I wasnt really paying attention, but sweets was into it. She didnt even acknowledge her. Then she looks at me and says:

"I wonder how it ends.... Neutral "

and Im left to be the bad guy to speak out for a show I wasnt even paying attention to. I think back to my mom and sister when they were kids, or even my own two sisters, and hell would have been raised if they even thought about just walking into a room and switching the station someone else was watching.
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Post by Pedram on Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:21 pm

'Villains' of 2019:

Donald Trump 39%
Jeremy Corbyn 29%
Jeffrey Epstein 28%

'Heroes' of 2019:

David Attenborough 35%
Greta Thunberg 21%
Boris Johnson 19%

Opinium 20-30 Dec

https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1212425754534961152

Corbyn more hated than a fucking child molester. Laughing

Apparently being a leftist is worse than running a child sex ring.
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