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Post by Sushi Master Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:43 pm

While a sad day for football overall, I'll personally enjoy the decrease in Messi-vs-Cristiano bitchfests, once they both retire.

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Post by McAgger Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:48 pm

jibers wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:
jibers wrote:Ronaldo rofl

The guy is an utter moron. I suppose Owen is better than Henry and Raul. IQ of a goldfish


Owen isn't better than Raul and Henry but sure as hell Ronaldo is better than Xavi


Better at what exactly? Pressing, cutting off passing lanes, Set pieces, Passing, controlling games, team player, decision making, press resitant player? What next, ronaldo is a better player than Baresi and Buffon?

Stick to Fifa kid where CR has 98 dribbling


Lmao Jibers you on fire ffs :bow:
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Post by McAgger Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:54 pm

CR has taken commercially manufactured superstar to the next level. These kids today are getting brain washed thinking he even compares to the actual goats. He's been born at the perfect era for this to actually benefit him. Right during his prime social media has surged to new heights and the access we have to sport franchises and athletes is unparalleled throughout time.

He would be known as poor mans Gerd Muller in any other era.
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Post by Sushi Master Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:55 pm

Gerd Mueller actually won everything there was to win and played in one of the best teams of all time Laughing

Plus, I doubt he was as obsessed with his six pack or his hair style as Crynaldo is.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:56 pm

Sushi Master wrote:While a sad day for football overall, I'll personally enjoy the decrease in Messi-vs-Cristiano bitchfests, once they both retire.


Agreed.
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Post by McAgger Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:07 am

Sushi Master wrote:Gerd Mueller actually won everything there was to win and played in one of the best teams of all time Laughing

Plus, I doubt he was as obsessed with his six pack or his hair style as Crynaldo is.
Thus why I said poor mans Gerd Muller.
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Post by Sushi Master Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:12 am

Don't call me James wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:Gerd Mueller actually won everything there was to win and played in one of the best teams of all time Laughing

Plus, I doubt he was as obsessed with his six pack or his hair style as Crynaldo is.
Thus why I said poor mans Gerd Muller.

Sorry, I know the comparison was more in the prolific goalscorer section, but I could not drive myself to compare the legend Mueller with Crynaldo. Proud

Cristiano is Cristiano and Mueller is Mueller.

I don't even like comparing him to Messi.
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Post by jibers Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:26 am

Sushi Master wrote:Gerd Mueller actually won everything there was to win and played in one of the best teams of all time Laughing

Plus, I doubt he was as obsessed with his six pack or his hair style as Crynaldo is.


Except when Müller was injured Bayern couldn't score any goals and he was always their top assister as well. In fact, when people label Müller as a poacher you immediately know theyve never watched any of his games at Bayern. Maybe for Germany where he played closer to the box but for Bayern his movement was more like Messi.

He actually played as a DM in a few games (positionally) when they defended and wasn't a box striker as he is labelled.  He had to use the wide players for combinations so he could get in the box and use his first touch and turns to score goals.   The only reason Muller isn't rated is because the German Media back then just didn't like him. FFS they rated Uwe Seeler as a much better striker iirc from a few kicker articles. It was pathetic. He obviosuly was not as elegant as Cruijff but he turned up in big games and unlike CFlop7 who has just being riding on the coat tails of his teammates. Gerd is the greatest #9 and the greatest goal scorer. Pele can count all the goals he scored against Mechanics and in the years where Santos where like Harlem globe trotters and getting paid to play money. The media backing is the reason that he is underrated and seen as some box tap in Inzaghi player when he was incredibly mobile, incredible at finisher, great in the air, incredible at turning defenders. His only weakness was one vs ones when running into space. I mean don't people find it strange that Maradona, despite being linked with Neapolitan mafia, a cocaine addict, a serial diver, a known and caught doper and a tax evader is constantly loved by the media? It's one of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

In the 75/76 season Bayern came 2nd, Muller missed 10 games in a row and Bayern fell from 2nd to 7th in that time. 3 wins 1 draw and 6 defeats (scored 15 and conceded 28!)

Muller came back and Bayenr finshed 3rd and were 5 points behind the GOAT gladbach team that until recently were the best domestic side in german history.

A year later, in 76/77 Bayern were 2nd again with Muller, then Muller missed 9 games and they from 2nd to 10th in this time with 2 wins 2 draws and 5 defeats (5 goals scored, 15 conceded!), Bayern finished 7th,7 points behind the GOAT Gladbach. In both those seasons Muller scored 1+ goals a game (23 goals in 22 games & 23 goals in 25 games, 28 goals etc) and Bayern were literally useless without him so this myth of them being some super team is just that. They had at best 3 quote one quote WC players at best.

So Bayern in 19 games over those 2 seasons without Muller scored 20 goals in 19 games and conceded 38 goals without Muller. That GOAT team of all time scrubbing it up in the league.


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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:29 am

Fakenaldo using his fake Ballon d'Ors as argument? rofl

Who the feck cares if you play like complete shit when you win those. It's all deludion to make more money for media and corporations. Newsflash for Fakenaldo, you're a product of media and modern monetization, you deserved nothing from your career, it's all fake. rofl
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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:35 am

From real Ballon d'Or to fake Ballon d'Or.

Johan Cruyff 1974 WC runner up/ Golden Ball = Ballon d'Or 1st
...
Gerd Müller 1974 EC champion/ top scorer (+ WC74 winner) = Ballon d'Or 7th

to

Cronaldo 2014 CL champion/ top scorer = Ballon d'Or 1st
Messi 2014 WC runner up/ Golden Ball = Ballon d'Or 2nd

That's the result of modern marketing in football, money hungry bastards ruining everything to make it fake as fck.


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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:37 am

frankly you should only be authorized to post here if you have a GL d'Or
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Post by McLewis Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:37 am

Harmonica wrote:From real Ballon d'Or to fake Ballon d'Or.

Johan Cruyff 1974 WC runner up/ Golden Ball = Ballon d'Or 1st
...
Gerd Müller 1974 EC champion/ top scorer (+ WC74 winner) = Ballon d'Or 7th

to

Cronaldo 2014 CL champion/ top scorer = Ballon d'Or 1st
Messi 2014 WC runner up/ Golden Ball = Ballon d'Or 2nd

That's the result of modern marketing in football, money hungry bastards ruining everything to make it fake as fck.


Says the Messi supporter hmm
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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:39 am

McLewis wrote:
Harmonica wrote:From real Ballon d'Or to fake Ballon d'Or.

Johan Cruyff 1974 WC runner up/ Golden Ball = Ballon d'Or 1st
...
Gerd Müller 1974 EC champion/ top scorer (+ WC74 winner) = Ballon d'Or 7th

to

Cronaldo 2014 CL champion/ top scorer = Ballon d'Or 1st
Messi 2014 WC runner up/ Golden Ball = Ballon d'Or 2nd

That's the result of modern marketing in football, money hungry bastards ruining everything to make it fake as fck.


Says the Messi supporter hmm
Umm says logic.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:41 am

Honestly, and while I think Ronaldo's reply was childish and poorly articulated, Xavi is to blame because he's the one who started it.

Him and Piqué should really zip it because they're always drawing first blood.

And if you happen to be stupid enough to fall into the journalist's trap and answer this question, at least make sure to be diplomatic about it and not make it personal. When he said "Ronaldo's problem is..." right there, he made it personal. He could've simply said:

"I think Messi is way better than Ronaldo, and he's one of the all-time greats if not the greatest ever. Ronaldo is not even fit to be compared to him."

This response would've gotten his point across without making it personal. But when you assume that somebody has a problem with something, just like when Mourinho assumed that Pepe had a problem with Varane, people will feel the need to come out to defend themselves.

I don't think Xavi really meant to disrespect Ronaldo, it's just that he doesn't have enough brain cells to be diplomatic.

And seriously, him and piqué should stop coming after Real Madrid players or the club every time somebody hands them a mic.
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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:43 am

Nobody cares about Fakenaldo's answer, what Xavi says is the truth and Fakenaldo and all of his drones know it. Now we know that it also hurts him.

In no world can so horrible human being achieve so much with so much fakeness and deceit as Fakenaldo has. Logically Fakenaldo has to be an anti-christ.
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Post by breva Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:57 am

Both Cristiano and Messi benefit from the current era. Social media, tremendous promotional contracts, shirt sales and new fans that really are not students of the game historically make it possible for their performance to be hyped far beyond reality. Even a player like Cruijff, who is not considered the greatest of the greats, was a superior player to Messi or Cristiano.
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Post by Sushi Master Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:58 am

jibers wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:Gerd Mueller actually won everything there was to win and played in one of the best teams of all time Laughing

Plus, I doubt he was as obsessed with his six pack or his hair style as Crynaldo is.


Except when Müller was injured Bayern couldn't score any goals and he was always their top assister as well. In fact, when people label Müller as a poacher you immediately know theyve never watched any of his games at Bayern. Maybe for Germany where he played closer to the box but for Bayern his movement was more like Messi.

He actually played as a DM in a few games (positionally) when they defended and wasn't a box striker as he is labelled.  He had to use the wide players for combinations so he could get in the box and use his first touch and turns to score goals.   The only reason Muller isn't rated is because the German Media back then just didn't like him. FFS they rated Uwe Seeler as a much better striker iirc from a few kicker articles. It was pathetic. He obviosuly was not as elegant as Cruijff but he turned up in big games and unlike CFlop7 who has just being riding on the coat tails of his teammates. Gerd is the greatest #9 and the greatest goal scorer. Pele can count all the goals he scored against Mechanics and in the years where Santos where like Harlem globe trotters and getting paid to play money. The media backing is the reason that he is underrated and seen as some box tap in Inzaghi player when he was incredibly mobile, incredible at finisher, great in the air, incredible at turning defenders. His only weakness was one vs ones when running into space. I mean don't people find it strange that Maradona, despite being linked with Neapolitan mafia, a cocaine addict, a serial diver, a known and caught doper and a tax evader is constantly loved by the media? It's one of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

In the 75/76 season Bayern came 2nd, Muller missed 10 games in a row and Bayern fell from 2nd to 7th in that time. 3 wins 1 draw and 6 defeats (scored 15 and conceded 28!)

Muller came back and Bayenr finshed 3rd and were 5 points behind the GOAT gladbach team that until recently were the best domestic side in german history.

A year later, in 76/77 Bayern were 2nd again with Muller, then Muller missed 9 games and they from 2nd to 10th in this time with 2 wins 2 draws and 5 defeats (5 goals scored, 15 conceded!), Bayern finished 7th,7 points behind the GOAT Gladbach. In both those seasons Muller scored 1+ goals a game (23 goals in 22 games & 23 goals in 25 games, 28 goals etc) and Bayern were literally useless without him so this myth of them being some super team is just that. They had at best 3 quote one quote WC players at best.

So Bayern in 19 games over those 2 seasons without Muller scored 20 goals in 19 games and conceded 38 goals without Muller. That GOAT team of all time scrubbing it up in the league.

:bow:

Nothing to say here. Spot on.
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Post by Curtinho Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:26 am

Yeah it's bizarre to me that people rarely talked about Gerd.

That said everyone knows Messi > Ronaldo > Xavi. The end. Why is this rehashed like every couple of months? There's really no debate.
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Post by chad4401 Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:27 am

The response from cr was silly but xavi needs to stfu too, this argument has been discussed to death, and I'm sure he has said messi>cr before in his barca days, just ignore the question, no need to rip cr for defending himself, I'm sure he knows in his heart messi is better, but since he is a brand how can he admit that?

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Post by titosantill Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:41 am

nothing wrong in what cristiano said. simply because xavi has always had something to say about him, always. when he first signed for madrid, xavi had something to say, when his team wins or loses, xavi has something to say. at every gala with regards any of these foolish individual awards, whether cristiano gets one or not, xavi has something to say.

granted, he's answering questions from the media. but when you've answered so many questions on one subject over the last 7 or 8 years, even you should have some pride and side foot it. people aren't going around asking cristiano questions about xavi, unless its for a rebuttal from something xavi said

cristiano gives one little response and everyone's up in arms.
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Post by Kaladin Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:47 am

I for one, approve of what CR says, finally shuts that whiny dwarf up
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:41 am

ES wrote:I for one, approve of what CR says, finally shuts that whiny dwarf up
ES wrote:I for one, approve of what CR says, finally shuts that whiny dwarf up


Kinda, this prick seems to forget that CR had been lighting up European football long before he became relevant and after he stopped being relevant.
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Post by CBarca Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:44 am

I mean, I kinda like the banter. So I kind of hope this stuff continues
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:41 am

ES wrote:I for one, approve of what CR says, finally shuts that whiny dwarf up


I approve to.

I'm puzzled, apparently people's brain's can only tolerate one superstar. If Ronaldo isn't as good as Messi, he needs to be a poor man's whatever.
It's not like he has scored 500 something goals in 500 games or some shit.
His goalscoring performance is absolutely unreal and he deserves respect for that if not for his douchy personality.
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Post by jontsu Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:45 am

CR one of those guys who think ballon dor is always equal the best player. I also find it funny how Xavi said Messi is better than the rest and then Cronaldo answers by brining up the fact he has three bdors to Xavi's none, the logic here. Shows how passionate and obsessed he is for individual glory and the numerous trophies he has already won. We all had that one guy in our sports team who considered himself as unreplaceable and bigger than the team, most  of us really disliked him but ofc nobody would bring it up and keep it inside like normal fellows would act.
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Mr Nick09 wrote:frankly you should only be authorized to post here if you have a GL d'Or


So me, MT, Robes and M99 iirc hmm
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