Re: The European Super League Megathread

by RealGunner Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:24 pm

Gary Neville, I salute you.

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— HLTCO (@HLTCO) April 18, 2021

well said

by Hapless_Hans Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:25 pm

rincon wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Hope the FA, LFP and Serie A authorities promptly kick these guys out and forfeit their remaining games

They forfeit the matches and Inter doesn't get the scudetto after 10 years @Robespierre

Is Inter part of this?

Or is it just that absolute *bleep* Agnelli and Elliott management

by RealGunner Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:26 pm

Pretty sure it's Perez and Gazidis leading this

by Casciavit Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:28 pm

I wonder how much more butthurt people would be if it was the oil teams being the ones who led this project.

by Art Morte Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:29 pm

I hope it happens, would be super intriguing to see how it goes (while obviously hoping it would fail catastrophically).

by FennecFox7 Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:29 pm

This is disgusting. I won’t watch another match of football ever again if this happens unless my country is playing.

by rincon Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:31 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
rincon wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Hope the FA, LFP and Serie A authorities promptly kick these guys out and forfeit their remaining games

They forfeit the matches and Inter doesn't get the scudetto after 10 years @Robespierre

Is Inter part of this?

Or is it just that absolute *bleep* Agnelli and Elliott management

Yeah pretty sure we aren't leading this as Perez has been talking about it for 10 years. Inter are Milan are part of it as well from Serie A.

by El Gunner Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:36 pm

Casciavit wrote:I wonder how much more butthurt people would be if it was the oil teams being the ones who led this project.

a whole lot more, obviously lol

RealGunner wrote:Pretty sure it's Perez and Gazidis leading this

haven't you seen the article yet where goodman Stan is touted to be Perez's number 1 supporter of the idea lol

by futbol_bill Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:55 pm

My understanding is that this new league is in addition to national leagues, just a replacement for Champions league. If this does go through, you can bet Bayern, PSG will jump on board plus a couple more french and German and then they round out with some representation from small soccer countries. UEFA will be left with EU (or previously named UEFA club) which is a 2nd tier cup.

This is basically a power play by the biggest (best) futbol clubs taking over the champions leaque. Uefa proposed the swiss style revamp of CL to try to stop this from happening, but looks like they failed. Uefa obviously doesn’t like this, but it seems to me they are powerless to stop this. Their threats are very hollow.

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:10 pm

“As previously announced by FIFA and the six Federations, the clubs concerned will be banned from playing in any other competition at domestic, European or world level, and their players could be denied the opportunity to represent their national teams."

This is the real threat . If not a bluff it should be enacted immediately

by farfan Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:19 pm

The players had nothing to do with this project, why should they be punished? I'm sure FIFPro will have a say in this.

by rincon Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:21 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:“As previously announced by FIFA and the six Federations, the clubs concerned will be banned from playing in any other competition at domestic, European or world level, and their players could be denied the opportunity to represent their national teams."

This is the real threat . If not a bluff it should be enacted immediately

It sounds difficult to enforce for national teams. I imagine then it becomes a legal issue to be decided in court. The players didn't make this choice in the end.

Another question is if UEFA/FIFA would actually do it. The euros wouldn't make any sense. The world cup would still be good, but likely without the top stars it would be diminished.

I think more than international competitions, the way to stop this is through domestic leagues and federations.

by El Gunner Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:25 pm

i think they're gunna end up reaching some sort of compromise between the Super League and Swiss style... whenever that will be and how it will look like, is anyone's guess... But money talks at the end of the day

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:39 pm

rincon wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:“As previously announced by FIFA and the six Federations, the clubs concerned will be banned from playing in any other competition at domestic, European or world level, and their players could be denied the opportunity to represent their national teams."

This is the real threat . If not a bluff it should be enacted immediately

It sounds difficult to enforce for national teams. I imagine then it becomes a legal issue to be decided in court. The players didn't make this choice in the end.

Another question is if UEFA/FIFA would actually do it. The euros wouldn't make any sense. The world cup would still be good, but likely without the top stars it would be diminished.

I think more than international competitions, the way to stop this is through domestic leagues and federations.

for int games they said "could" leaving leaving door open for them to fall back ,but for domestic games they were pretty decisive . The 12 clubs think they can keep playing in their leagues and do this on top (while gutting the CL). Uefa disagrees . Let's see.

by Jay29 Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:47 pm

I'm not sure what the domestic federations can do, though. Deduct points, ban them from competing, etc. hurts the federations as much as it hurts the Super League clubs. English football would suffer immensely without Arsenal, Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Spurs and United. These are the clubs with the big audiences that Sky, BT, Amazon, etc. are paying the big bucks to access; the likes of Everton and Leicester wouldn't keep getting £100m per year from TV after they leave.

The Super League clubs hold considerable power here. The only thing that could realistically scupper this whole thing is if the players refuse to participate, which I'm sure would have all sorts of ugly legal ramifications attached to it. Threats to ban them from international competition might work, but I'm not sure how legally enforceable it'd be, or whether the FAs would be okay with not having access to their best players.

Only thing for sure is that it's going to get very messy for all involved.

by rincon Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:59 pm

Makes me curious as to what would a Serie A without the big 3 look like.

A league dominated by Roma, Lazio and Napoli? Atalanta?

by Firenze Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:27 pm

cant abide by it tbh, despite my posts from 2018 on the first page

Champions League is synonymous with so many good moments in my life, from childhood to adulthood, hope the teams back down with this nonsense.

Pretty strong threats from the governing bodies for the teams involved in this. I support it too.

by Hapless_Hans Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:30 pm

Can't believe this is actually happening? What's wrong with these fucking clowns?
One year without fans and they lose all sense of decency and reason

by Winter is Coming Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:36 pm

Casciavit wrote:I wonder how much more butthurt people would be if it was the oil teams being the ones who led this project.

People are already blaming them for it. Mind you I'm not sure how much of this is due to them lol

by M99 Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:36 pm

UEFA, the English Football Association and the Premier League, the Royal Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) and LaLiga, and the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) and Lega Serie A have learned that a few English, Spanish and Italian clubs may be planning to announce their creation of a closed, so-called Super League.

If this were to happen, we wish to reiterate that we – UEFA, the English FA, RFEF, FIGC, the Premier League, LaLiga, Lega Serie A, but also FIFA and all our member associations – will remain united in our efforts to stop this cynical project, a project that is founded on the self-interest of a few clubs at a time when society needs solidarity more than ever.

We will consider all measures available to us, at all levels, both judicial and sporting in order to prevent this happening. Football is based on open competitions and sporting merit; it cannot be any other way.

As previously announced by FIFA and the six Confederations, the clubs concerned will be banned from playing in any other competition at domestic, European or world level, and their players could be denied the opportunity to represent their national teams.

We thank those clubs in other countries, especially the French and German clubs, who have refused to sign up to this. We call on all lovers of football, supporters and politicians, to join us in fighting against such a project if it were to be announced. This persistent self-interest of a few has been going on for too long.

Enough is enough.

by El Gunner Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:41 pm

Rise up, proletariat! Molenation

by M99 Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:46 pm

RealGunner wrote:Pretty sure it's Perez and Gazidis leading this

Chairman: Florentino Perez [Real Madrid]
Vice-Chairman: Stan Kroenke [Arsenal]
Vice-Chairman: Andrea Agnelli [Juventus]
Vice-Chairman: John W. Henry [Liverpool]
Vice-Chairman: Joel Glazer [Manchester United]

by S Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:48 pm

Here's a clue as to why 12 clubs have signed up for a European Super League:

They lost a combined £1.2 billion in 2019/20 before player sales*

And that was for a season where only the last 3 months were impacted by COVID...

*Liverpool have not yet published their accounts pic.twitter.com/7o1ubiDX6z
— Swiss Ramble (@SwissRamble) April 18, 2021

by rincon Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:43 pm

Even being on the same side as him, how is the president of La Liga this clown Laughing

Finally the "gurus" of the superleague PowerPoint are exiting the darkness of the bar at 5AM, intoxicated with selfishness and a lack of solidarity. @UEFA and @EuropeanLeagues and @LaLiga have been preparing and they will get their answer. pic.twitter.com/1l76yNdqs7
— Javier Tebas Medrano (@Tebasjavier) April 18, 2021

by Nishankly Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:50 pm

Yeah if LFC do this during the regular season if it affects the current system, bye bye to watching football. Sport >> Club for me.

by Nishankly Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:52 pm

Firenze wrote:cant abide by it tbh, despite my posts from 2018 on the first page

Champions League is synonymous with so many good moments in my life, from childhood to adulthood, hope the teams back down with this nonsense.

Pretty strong threats from the governing bodies for the teams involved in this. I support it too.

Tears to my eyes with this anthem. THE CHAMPIONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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