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Post by McLewis Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:53 pm

It's not ignorance though. I disagree completely with that assertion.

It's an expression of dissatisfaction with the status quo. People are tired of both of these parties conning them into shit that simply won't happen, just to keep their own hold on power. There's absolutely nothing wrong with trying to break that cycle.

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Post by Il Diavolo Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:11 am

McLewis wrote:It's not ignorance though. I disagree completely with that assertion.

It's an expression of dissatisfaction with the status quo. People are tired of both of these parties conning them into shit that simply won't happen, just to keep their own hold on power. There's absolutely nothing wrong with trying to break that cycle.

I agree with this so much. Your vote is supposed to be a way of voicing your opinion and if you happen to have an opinion that is not very popular... then should you simply forgo it, because it's not popular.

I wish all democratic countries would introduce a law that puts a "none of the above" option on the ballots.
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Post by FennecFox7 Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:03 am

They need equal air time on the media and people need more widespread knowledge on their policies. Which will never happen

Again, idealism is not reality. Go vote third party and lie to yourself I guess, that's not on me
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Post by McLewis Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:24 am

You're absolutely right it's not on you. If I do vote 3rd party, it won't be out of some misguided sense of guilt. It will be of my own volition and with complete recognition of what might just happen. I know myself well enough to know that this is being true to myself, not the opposite of that.

To be frank, if Hillary or Trump end up losing, 3rd party voters are the last group they should be blaming.
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Post by FennecFox7 Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:26 am

I definitely won't blame third party voters though. Hillary is not exceptional by any means and trump is just a clown duped up on drugs
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Post by Art Morte Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:28 am

Il Diavolo wrote:
I wish all democratic countries would introduce a law that puts a "none of the above" option on the ballots.


That helps nothing, it basically exists already and is the people who don't vote.

U.S. absolutely needs more political parties than just the two, though, so voting for third parties is the right thing to do if one isn't satisfied with the Republicans or the Democrats. More parties = more options = better representation of the people = better democracy.
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Post by Il Diavolo Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:02 am

I feel like people that don't vote are generally looked as lazy people who are just not interested in participating in the Democratic process. Maybe a (small) portion of those are not voting because they don't see any viable candidates but largely it's people that don't care / are too lazy to go out and vote on election day.
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:35 am

They are ridiculously lazy. Okay I don't agree voting third party, but I will say this; you're a voting citizen so it's something to respect. People who say "aw *bleep* politics" are just people who couldn't give two shits about this country because mommy and daddy are paying for everything
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:43 pm



They sound so reasonable compared to Trump/Clinton. Weld should be heading the ticket, can you imagine how much ass he could kick in the VP debate against the 2 nobodies chosen? Laughing
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:27 pm

My guess is that Johnson will take over the republican ballot if they want to save face. Otherwise trump will get destroyed.

I've said I'm not a fan of Johnson but I will say this, after seeing Bernies face at the DNC.. I don't know. Somethings up.
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Post by Unique Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:28 pm

Clint Eastwood said. today is a kiss ass generation and he backs trump so that's the end of it. eco smile
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:18 am

http://www.isidewith.com/

Stein 92%
Clinton 92%
Johnson 82%
Trump 27%
Castle 27%
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Post by McLewis Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:27 am

Unique wrote:Clint Eastwood said. today is a kiss ass generation and he backs trump so that's the end of it. eco smile


Dear old Clint lost all credibility when he talked to a damn empty chair the last time around. Legendary actor and director....senile political hack.
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Post by elitedam Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:38 am

Gubernatorial candidate Eric Greitens with one of the greatest political ads I've ever seen:

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Post by CBarca Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:16 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:http://www.isidewith.com/

Stein 92%
Clinton 92%
Johnson 82%
Trump 27%
Castle 27%


Clinton 98%
Stein 94%
Johnson 54%
Trump 24%
Castle 11%
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:40 am

Yeah too bad Eastwood got senile, though frankly, off-camera he never seemed all that bright, not even 20 odd years ago.
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Post by Unique Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:36 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:Yeah too bad Eastwood got senile, though frankly, off-camera he never seemed all that bright, not even 20 odd years ago.
if you bad mouth mr eastwood we are gonna have words Clubber
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:41 pm

CBarca wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:http://www.isidewith.com/

Stein 92%
Clinton 92%
Johnson 82%
Trump 27%
Castle 27%


Clinton 98%
Stein 94%
Johnson 54%
Trump 24%
Castle 11%


I was surprised by how high I scored on Stein, maybe I should do some actual research on the Green Party? My pre-conceived notion is that she is a female version of Bernie without any actual experience in public service. Doesn't seem too appealing.
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Post by Raptorgunner Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:16 pm

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Post by RealGunner Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:18 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
CBarca wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:http://www.isidewith.com/

Stein 92%
Clinton 92%
Johnson 82%
Trump 27%
Castle 27%


Clinton 98%
Stein 94%
Johnson 54%
Trump 24%
Castle 11%




Clinton 95%
Stein 90%
Gary Johnson 43%
Donald Trump 9%
Darrell Castle 6%
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Post by Myesyats Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:36 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:US Presidential Race - Page 4 T3_4w43kq?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F26BRxjQXtmOyU8rcI%2Fgiphy-downsized-large

this is what america deserves
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Post by Freeza Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:52 pm

94% Clinton & Stein

59% Johnson

8% Trump


I was far left wing on the spectrum. Understandable. Every Scandinavian must be. Not really any variety in how much it should be.

Free healthcare and education = far left wing. So happy that's a normality here. We get paid to go to school.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:59 pm

Yea not surprised at my results either
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Post by zigra Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:05 pm

100% Stein, 99% Clinton Proud
But I didn't answer every question.

Most of the questions are like in bad videogames really where you always know which one is the good and which one is the bad option Laughing Just that it's real life and people actually choose the bad option.
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Post by Sri Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:21 pm

Clinton 88
Stein 86
Johnson 59
Trump 31
Castle 16

hmm

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:18 am

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article93763582.html

Clinton now has a 15% lead over Trump Laughing

Clinton doesn't just need to win, she needs to win so bad that Trump's hateful ideas become buried forever



"More encouraging for Clinton, 57 percent of her backers say their vote is for her, while 40 percent say it’s largely an anti-Trump vote."

"Most of Trump’s backers – 57 percent – say their vote is against Clinton, while only 36 percent called it a pro-Trump decision."

The American 2 party system is so ****ed that most people end up voting against someone instead of for someone smh
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