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Post by Harmonica Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:31 pm

Vitolo - "To me, Leo Messi is the best player in history of football."
Vicente Iborra - "You can't stop Messi, he is the best in history."
Fabio Capello - "Pelé, Messi and Maradona are the 3 best players in the history of the game."

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Post by Myesyats Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:58 pm

That finish was so smooth. :bow:

Like a mother's kiss. Proud
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:31 pm

Even when he has a bad game and gets dispossessed tons, he has a good game in my eyes. Still manages to make that game changing goal or assist.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:14 pm

He's lost the plot.

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Post by Bankz Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:31 pm

How do I post pics here. Whatever I do seems not to work.. scratch
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Post by Bankz Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:46 am

Lionel messi should retired honorably tbh..

Just look at the way Neymar and co toyed with the Arg NT like it was some training ground session. Could have been like 6-0 if not for complacency on brazil's part
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Post by Thimmy Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:57 am

Harmonica wrote:Vitolo - "To me, Leo Messi is the best player in history of football."
Vicente Iborra - "You can't stop Messi, he is the best in history."


Those two are the same age as me or younger, yet they're confident that they know who the best football player in history is.

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Post by Harmonica Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:53 am

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Post by Harmonica Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:54 am

Thimmy wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Vitolo - "To me, Leo Messi is the best player in history of football."
Vicente Iborra - "You can't stop Messi, he is the best in history."


Those two are the same age as me or younger, yet they're confident that they know who the best football player in history is.

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They can't have an opinion? It's not like you can't check these players out, and it's not like it's not fairly obvious.

Justo Tejada (teammate Di Stefano) - "Messi is from another galaxy. He does more difficult things than Di Stefano, Pele or Maradona."
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Post by Myesyats Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:38 pm

Thimmy wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Vitolo - "To me, Leo Messi is the best player in history of football."
Vicente Iborra - "You can't stop Messi, he is the best in history."


Those two are the same age as me or younger, yet they're confident that they know who the best football player in history is.

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Most people on the internet have an opinion on the matter so why get salty when actual legit players make a statement?
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Post by Kebab Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:53 pm

He wants to say that Maradona, the true best player in history never had a bad game, he won all the matches and never got defeated
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Post by Thimmy Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:21 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Thimmy wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Vitolo - "To me, Leo Messi is the best player in history of football."
Vicente Iborra - "You can't stop Messi, he is the best in history."


Those two are the same age as me or younger, yet they're confident that they know who the best football player in history is.

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Most people on the internet have an opinion on the matter so why get salty when actual legit players make a statement?


The only one who's salty here is you. I don't know what "actual-legit-players" is. Of course, people are entitled to have their opinions. I think there's a difference between having an opinion and claiming that someone is the greatest of all time, however. The source that Harmonica referred to seems a lot more credible than the random athletes these days, who whimsically claim that something is the best ever. I have great respect for Messi's immense talent and accomplishments, and I have no doubt in my mind that he's one of the greatest players to have ever graced the sport. But it generally irks me when people casually throw out a "x is the best, ever" claim, as if deciding such a thing was no big deal. It happens in all different kinds of sports, but yeah.. I don't know why people do it.

Kebab: What the hell? Laughing All I know about Maradona is that he's a fat bastard who wasted his youth and career by abusing coke. I'm not old enough, and I don't possess the knowledge to determine whether or not he was relevant in the context of being the best at anything.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:53 pm

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Post by Harmonica Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:19 am

Lionel Messi pays team security guards after Argentina fails to.

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/lionel-messi-pays-team-security-guards-after-argentina-fails-to-111816

Scorer, playmaker, defender, scout, coach, manager and now a bank, can Messi carry them anymore than that? Laughing
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:46 am

AFA what a ****ing sham... they secured a contract for 160m usd for TV rights and can't even pay the security guards
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Post by Harmonica Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:04 am

Argentina competitive match history per captain (19.11.16)

70% win, Messi 26-6-5 in 37 matches, 3x final
64% win, Ayala 28-8-8 in 44 matches, 2x final, 2x quarter-final
59% win, Maradona 20-7-7 in 34 matches, title, final, 3rd, 4th, round 16
42% win, Mascherano 10-6-8 in 24 matches, 2x quarter-final

National team goals (games) vs Argentina, Brazil, Chile, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Uruguay

14 (30) Messi (playmaker)
9 (26) Suarez (striker)
8 (21) Neymar (playmaker)
2 (12) Benzema (striker)
1 (6) Bale (playmaker)
1 (18) Cronaldo (striker)
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Post by LuckAndWin Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:27 am

Harmonica wrote:Lionel Messi pays team security guards after Argentina fails to.

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/lionel-messi-pays-team-security-guards-after-argentina-fails-to-111816

Scorer, playmaker, defender, scout, coach, manager and now a bank, can Messi carry them anymore than that? Laughing

He provides for Argentina lol
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Post by Harmonica Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:56 am

Big Team Hat-tricks (against period top 4 (finished position), in Argentinian, Brazilian, Dutch, French, German, English, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish national leagues)

Note: Pele's national competitions, Taca Brazil 59-66, Torneio Roberto Gomes Pedrosa 67-70, Brasileiro Serie A 71-74
Note: Includes cup and reagional league hat-tricks against period top 4
Note: Official games

Messi 10
Real Madrid 3 3 (06-07, 13-14)
Valencia 3 4 (09-10, 11-12)
Malaga 3 3 (11-12)
Atletico Madrid 3 (08-09)
Manchester City 3 (16-17)
Ajax 3 (13-14)
Arsenal 4 (09-10)

Pele 4
Bahia 3 (61)
Botafogo 3 (63)
Flamengo 3 (64)
Benfica 3 (62)

Puskas 4
Zaragoza 3 (60-61)
Barcelona 3 (63-64)
Benfica 3 (61-62)
Feyenoord 4 (65-66)

Cronaldo 3
Villarreal 3 (10-11)
Malaga 3 (11-12)
Ajax 3 (12-13)

Batistuta 3
Racing Club 3 (91)
Udinese 3 (97-98)
Milan 3 (98-99)

Romario 3
Real Madrid 3 (93-94)
Botafogo 3 (95)
Palmeiras 3 (97)

Eusebio 2
Sporting CP 3 (71-72)
Belenenses 3 (72-73)

Neymar 1
Sao Paolo 3 (12)

Ronaldo 1
Manchester United 3 (02-03)

Van Basten 1
Feyenoord 3 (83-84)

Gerd Müller 1
FC Köln 3 (75-76)

Di Stefano 1
Valencia 3 (53-54)

Suarez, Platini, Maradona, Cruyff 0
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Post by Harmonica Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:15 pm

Messi goal vs USA in Copa America semi-final is one of the 10 nominated for 2016 Puskas-award.

http://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards/puskas-award/

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Most Puskas-award nominations (2009-)

5 Messi, Neymar
3 Zlatan
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Messi and Puskas Award (2009~)

2007 No such award
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2010 Nominated and snubbed
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2011 Nominated and snubbed
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2012 Fair nomination
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2013 Snubbed
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2014 Snubbed
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2015 Robbed
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Post by Harmonica Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:10 pm

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Post by Myesyats Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:44 pm

??? It's a regular free kick... How is this Puskas nominated?
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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:11 pm

Copa America semifinal, pinpoint fk on goalie side with no chance? There's even shit like Neymars goal nominated where he beats a player and scores in Liga game? Never mentioning what random shite won it last year. scratch
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Post by Myesyats Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:23 pm

The FIFA Puskás Award is an award established on 20 October 2009 by the Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA), at the behest of former president Sepp Blatter, in order to award the player, male or female, judged to have scored the most aesthetically significant, or "most beautiful", goal of the year.



The award has nothing to do with importance of the goal. Friendly, final, qualification -- DOES NOT MATTER.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:46 pm

Myesyats wrote:The FIFA Puskás Award is an award established on 20 October 2009 by the Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA), at the behest of former president Sepp Blatter, in order to award the player, male or female, judged to have scored the most aesthetically significant, or "most beautiful", goal of the year.



The award has nothing to do with importance of the goal. Friendly, final, qualification -- DOES NOT MATTER.
Why are you quoting wikipedia? From Fifa 2016 Puskas Award Rules of allocation:

Art. 2 The Award rewards the best goal scored during the period from 30 September 2015 to 30 September 2016 inclusive, regardless of championship, gender or nationality.

Importance is obviously part of it, and even if it wasn't, aesthetically it's definitely up there.

Now go away, this is grown up talk, and I'm the man.
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Post by Myesyats Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:57 pm

??? "Regardless of championship"

I think that settles it...

I am a fanboi of Messi too but that goal was a regular freekick.

Messi is in the shortlist by default for some reason and you can't explain it logically.
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Post by Bankz Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:00 pm

The puskas award is already dangerously prepared for messi, seeing as he's incapable of ever winning such an award by himself.

Even in 2007 he probably would have lost out too.
Nothing to see here Laughing

This is probably the most ugly puskas nominated goal of all time Laughing
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