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Post by RED Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:38 pm

We will never compete for a title with shit players like fellaini , blind and smalling.

Nowhere near good enough.

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Post by RED Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:47 pm

A team full of overpaid spineless bitches
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Post by RED Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:29 pm

F every single one of them today. Shamed the shirt!

4-0?

Gang of *****
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Post by jibers Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:30 pm

Thought it was Pele that scored then saw Kantes name on the scoresheet.

This team is pathetic
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Post by RED Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:55 pm

Shambles. Some of our players at the end all smiling, chatting to the chelsea players. Some of these lot don't give a shit. pathetic
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Post by RealGunner Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:17 pm

I don't think you can single out anyone. Every single player looked rattled. Like they have never been coached before.

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Post by Glory Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:21 pm

Bailly out for half a season. Laughing Icing on the cake. What a day. Smalling and Blind and Rojo and Jones until then. Haha


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Post by Nishankly Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:09 pm

Did you guys notice how none of your players don't even wait to get to the byline or atleast get a bit wide before punting the ball to Ibra?

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Post by Glory Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:36 am

Because, thats how we were setup. Jose went to his old ground with a clear motive to come back with a draw. It was evident. The wingers were playing essentially as wing backs. And Ibra lol he was basically playing as a no.10.

I say in a way I am happy we lost this heavily. Had we lost it 0-1 or 1-2, Mou wouldnt have ever changed his shite ways. Now (we can hope) he will at least think twice before parking the bus next time.
Its one thing having a plan but if you dont have the players to implement it then whats the use.
Our players (and philosophy)  are inherently attack minded, asking them to play defensive will be hard on them.
Logical thing to do at least until we strengthen our def would be to opt for a more offensive approach to make use of the quality upfront.

And yea Martial and Mkhitaryan needs to be reinstated asap, especially Mkhi, whatever be the bullshit reason jose is putting forward to not do it. Lingard is a squadie and Rashford aint ready yet.

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Our best 11. Why this constant insistence on using wingers and formation with wingers when we dont have 1 quality specialist winger. Only change I would make here is to occasionally bring in Carrick or Schneiderlin in place of Mata in games we need cover. Rashford for now needs to be a backup for martial and Ibra.

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Post by Vlad the Impaler Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:35 pm

Glad that we've won against City. Now we must win vs Burnley at Old Trafford. Here are the lineups:

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Post by RED Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:53 pm

-Heaton putting in a ridiculously annoying good performance, just like the Stoke keeper.

- ibra is utterly shit. Needs to be dropped. Has cost us a lot points from the amount chances he misses.

-clattenburg is a pos.

No luck at all today, but that shouldn't be an excuse. Ultimately were just not good enough!!

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Post by Glory Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:41 pm

Really happy with the performance. Mourinho 's United is finally taking shape. 32 chances created against a decent Burnley side( remember, they beat pool and everton) is really good actually. And even when we were a man short we were dominating the game.

Been saying this, this is not the year we will be challenging for the league. We are making great progress as a team, something a United fan couldnt have said last season under the dinosaur. Confidently can say we will make top 4. Only small thing Mourinho needs to be doing is to drop and sub off the underperforming players (a.k.a Zlatan) + integrate mkhi and martial in the lineup. If he does that we will easily make it.

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Post by RED Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:36 pm

@Glory wrote:Really happy with the performance. Mourinho 's United is finally taking shape. 32 chances created against a decent Burnley side( remember, they beat pool and everton) is really good actually. And even when we were a man short we were dominating the game.

Been saying this, this is not the year we will be challenging for the league. We are making great progress as a team, something a United fan couldnt have said last season under the dinosaur. Confidently can say we will make top 4. Only small thing Mourinho needs to be doing is to drop and sub off the underperforming players (a.k.a Zlatan) + integrate mkhi and martial in the lineup. If he does that we will easily make it.


Wish I was as confident as you but I don't think we'll make top 4, we're too inconsistent, can't string more than 3 wins, heck even 2 wins in a row, and we're battling against 4/5 teams who are more settled than us and/or just better.

Mou won't drop Ibra, he's to him what Rooney was to LVG- his main man. And Mou is clearly struggling to identify his best starting 11.

The positive signs is that we're showing signs of improvement in our general play going forward and ridding ourselves of LVG's rigid philosophy. On another day if we had a competent and clinical striker up front, we'd have won today and be further up the league too.

I think we'll finish 6/5 this season; next season we will be much better, challenging for the title.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:26 pm

Honestly this feels a lot worse because of your recent PL results. If it wasn't for that then this would just be one of those days which most PL teams have gone through already. Look at City Vs Southampton or Arsenal Vs Middlesbrough or Bournemouth Vs Tottenham. If you have created 32 shots in one match then that is a positive thing, specially considering it's Cctober and not April. You rather have that than 2 shots with no clear chances. Atm all of your strikers have decided to go on a barren run at the same time which makes it look even worse. If 1-2 start scoring regularly then these 0-0s would become 3-0s.



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Post by rwo power Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:33 am

Could it be that Mourinho is letting out his frustrations that things don't work out as he wants at poor Bastian Schweinsteiger?

I just read that allegedly he is not even allowed to play with the reserves after being left out from the team photo...

Considering that ManUtd would actually need some people with a "never give up, never surrender" character, this appears somewhat peculiar to me, I have to say...
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:25 am

@rwo power wrote:Could it be that Mourinho is letting out his frustrations that things don't work out as he wants at poor Bastian Schweinsteiger?

I just read that allegedly he is not even allowed to play with the reserves after being left out from the team photo...

Considering that ManUtd would actually need some people with a "never give up, never surrender" character, this appears somewhat peculiar to me, I have to say...


Don't think this has anything to do with what Mourinho thinks about Schweini as a footballer. On the contrary, Mourinho probaböy likes Schweini.

I think they decided preseason that in order for Ibra and Pogba to come in with those crazy wages, some top earner had to be cut, and that was Schweini.

Schweini did not play along and leave (why would he?), so now they play hard ball until he leaves.
They even wrote off his value as a player in their balance sheet to save taxes, proof that this is all about money.
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Post by RED Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:12 pm

@rwo power wrote:Could it be that Mourinho is letting out his frustrations that things don't work out as he wants at poor Bastian Schweinsteiger?

I just read that allegedly he is not even allowed to play with the reserves after being left out from the team photo...

Considering that ManUtd would actually need some people with a "never give up, never surrender" character, this appears somewhat peculiar to me, I have to say...
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Don't think this has anything to do with what Mourinho thinks about Schweini as a footballer. On the contrary, Mourinho probaböy likes Schweini.

I think they decided preseason that in order for Ibra and Pogba to come in with those crazy wages, some top earner had to be cut, and that was Schweini.

Schweini did not play along and leave (why would he?), so now they play hard ball until he leaves.
They even wrote off his value as a player in their balance sheet to save taxes, proof that this is all about money.

Pretty much this.
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Post by Busby Babe Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:30 pm

These line-ups are getting more ridiculous, pls win
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Post by RED Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:27 pm

Clinical in front of goal.

Very poor opposition.

Is mourinho gonna run these players to the ground? Make a *bleep* sub. The game is dead. Pogba is one yellow away from missing the arsenal match
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Post by RED Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:29 pm

I sometimes think mourinho just doesn't give a shit anymore.

Like whatever happens happens . Not my fault. 72nd min and no subs. Wtf?
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Post by Vlad the Impaler Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:53 pm

Ibra will miss the Arsenal match. Sad
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Post by Glory Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:02 am

Important game today.
Hope Mourinho will be positive in his approach this time around for a change.

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Post by Firenze Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:22 pm

the team have a mental issue

we have dominated a few games this season and then dropped points in the last 5-10 minutes from a winning position.

season would look so much better if we got 3 points against Stoke and Arsenal.

think Arsenal had one attack in 45 mins and scored.
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Post by huntsman Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:37 pm

Manu lack the leadership.
They dont have quality players and all you see are spurts of sporadic good play.
They are not ready nor they are championship team material.

Their goal and mission should be to grind a # 4 position in the league and fall back on re-building the team for next season.
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Post by RED Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:56 pm

@Firenze wrote:the team have a mental issue

we have dominated a few games this season and then dropped points in the last 5-10 minutes from a winning position.

season would look so much better if we got 3 points against Stoke and Arsenal.

think Arsenal had one attack in 45 mins and scored.


sums us up this season. We're not ruthless enough in front of goal and it's killing us.

Our strikers are letting us down.

Today, Arsenal were there for the taking. They were atrocious!! Yet one attempt on goal and they score. Very frustrating.
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Post by jibers Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:46 pm

@RED wrote:
@Firenze wrote:the team have a mental issue

we have dominated a few games this season and then dropped points in the last 5-10 minutes from a winning position.

season would look so much better if we got 3 points against Stoke and Arsenal.

think Arsenal had one attack in 45 mins and scored.


sums us up this season. We're not ruthless enough in front of goal and it's killing us.

Our strikers are letting us down.

Today, Arsenal were there for the taking. They were atrocious!! Yet one attempt on goal and they score. Very frustrating.


100%. We need to be a lot more clinical when we have the momentum. We dominated them completely. Literally the opposite in the later SAF years where we were the ones sitting back and letting them play. Only Chelsea seem to be able to close teams off out of all the league challengers.
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