General Games Discussion

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Next red dead game calls for a GL online reunion

RealGunner wrote:anyone tried doom beta apart from phritz

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Never even heard of it, banter

LeVersacci wrote:Shit game so no

Thimmy wrote:

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Never even heard of it, banter

I'm going to be busy tonight and tomorrow night, but I really wish I could play this game more before the beta ends on the 18th of April

RealGunner wrote:Doom 2 was amazing tbh.

Many modern game developers have embraced a culture of victimology and a bad attitude toward their chosen vocations. They complain that the long hours and personal sacrifices great games require are a consequence of poor management. They want to pretend that they can turn an inherently entrepreneurial endeavor like game development into a 9-to-5 job. Somehow, these people have managed to adopt a wage-slave attitude toward one of the most remarkable and privileged careers in the world.


I can’t begin to imagine how sheltered the lives of modern technology employees must be to think that any amount of hours they spend pushing a mouse around for a paycheck is really demanding strenuous work.

A wage-slave attitude exhibits itself in several tragic ways. I’ve known a lot of stupid self-made millionaires — really, hundreds of them — and they’re usually young as well. I’m talking about kids who made some of the worst games you can imagine and got rich accidentally, working in their parent’s basement in the Florida Everglades. They make their first game, get rich, and they’re gone, never having attended a single networking event at the Game Developers Conference, done.

Contrast the dozens and dozens of these kids that I’ve encountered over the years with the many game industry veterans I know with long storied resumes listing the dozens of triple-A console titles they have “labored” on, who decry the long working hours they are expected to invest in the games they are employed to work on. These people are smarter, more experienced, more talented, better trained to produce amazing games and they’re still working for paychecks and whining about avoiding long crunch hours to finish big titles or about not being paid fairly by some big employer.

Listening to them complain about it, you would they think that they are trapped in some disenfranchised third-world country forced to dig for blood diamonds to feed their families.
There’s nothing that can compensate people “fairly” for the sacrifices that great art requires, it’s art. You need to get an actual job producing productivity software if you want to be paid “fairly” and go home at 5 p.m. Anybody good enough to get hired to write games can get paid more to work on something else. If working on a game for 80 hours a week for months at a time seems “strenuous” to you … practice more until you’re better at it.

Making games is not a job, pushing a mouse is not a hardship, it’s the most amazing opportunity you can possibly get paid to pursue … start believing it and you’ll discover that you are even better at it.

But St. John started to burn out. He would pass out at his keyboard and straggle into morning meetings with key marks on his face. Worked sucked everything out of him; his marriage disintegrated. In 1997, he succeeded in getting himself fired, as he tells it, "and walked out of Microsoft feeling 100 lbs. lighter."

LeVersacci wrote:Remember retiring from the game after playing like 8 missions cause I was in that "cba" with SP phase lol