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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:59 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2015/dec/21/the-100-best-footballers-in-the-world-2015-interactive

Some interesting choices, like Kane in the top 40 Laughing
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:10 pm

Popularity contest.

Martial 22 spots above Marcelo? Laughing

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Post by Abramovich Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:18 pm

Either I am blind or I don't see Benzema on that list Laughing - oh never mind found him #33 bounce
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Post by Firenze Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:20 pm

Firenze wrote:The Guardian 100 2015 6493e5c8a3a7a9877192fed52e63b881
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Post by rwo power Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:33 pm

Betty La Fea wrote:Popularity contest.
Just that.
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Post by S Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:36 pm

Firenze wrote:
Firenze wrote:The Guardian 100 2015 6493e5c8a3a7a9877192fed52e63b881
He's been an amazing false DM for United

Deserved tbh
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:41 pm

Betty La Fea wrote:Popularity contest.

Martial 22 spots above Marcelo? Laughing


Marcelo is overrated they said
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:48 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
Betty La Fea wrote:Popularity contest.

Martial 22 spots above Marcelo? Laughing


Marcelo is overrated they said


Even if he is overrated nobody, bar Alaba, can come close to what he offers the attacking side of the game while still being serviceable defensively.

Marcelo, rated correctly, can't be lower than top 15 in the world, just based on what he does.

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Post by Kaladin Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:22 pm

Kos #100 @RealGunner
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Post by Firenze Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:30 pm

Kos needs to grant the Guardian staff eyes

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Post by RealGunner Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:32 pm

ffs dat reference



Saw kompany at like 57. pressed x instantly

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Post by S Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:45 pm

Koscielny at #100 ffs Laughing




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Post by Freeza Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:47 pm

RealGunner wrote:ffs dat reference



Saw kompany at like 57. pressed x instantly



Ronaldo at 2 really kept you reading? hmm

Bale that high rofl


pls


Ramos at 37 rofl Laughing rofl
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Post by RealGunner Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:51 pm

Think Ronaldo's pichici got him to 2nd


Who cares about treble when you can score 60 a season (:

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Post by Myesyats Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:11 pm

Suprised people still pay attention as those are never accurate, especially that everybody has own opinion and point of view...

Can't wait for FIFA's XI of the year at the Balon d'Or gala and Ronaldo's & Ramos' presence in it.... and omitting Busquets again because he's not a attention whore... shite by default

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Post by CBarca Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:22 am

These are dumb. Martial at 66? lol
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Post by Harmonica Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:38 am

Stopped reading at Ronaldo #2.
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Post by Harmonica Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:42 am

Top 1 picks

91 Messi
10 Suarez
8 Cronaldo
5 Neymar
2 Müller
2 Buffon
1 Lewandowski
1 Zlatan
1 Iniesta
1 Boateng
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Post by M99 Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:45 am

Kane's position rofl
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Post by Harmonica Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:52 pm

Here's infinitely better ranking based on something concrete and not on feel.

Skysports/whoscored.com Top 100

Sky Sports continues to count down the top 100 players of 2015 with the help of WhoScored.com.

After every game [URL='http://www.whoscored.com/']WhoScored.com[/URL] gives players competing in Europe's top five leagues a mark out of 10 based on a wide range of statistical data. Each player then gets an average score for 2015, and to qualify for this countdown, players must have made at least 20 league appearances.

100. Milan Badelj - Fiorentina - 7.299 average rating
99. Hilton - Montpellier - 7.300 average rating
98. Alexander Meier - Eintracht Frankfurt - 7.301 average rating
97. David Luiz - PSG - 7.302 average rating
96. Alejandro Gomez - Atalanta - 7.304 average rating
95: Paulo Dybala - Palermo & Juventus - 7.305 average rating
94. Phil Jagielka - Everton - 7.309 average rating
93. Patrick Herrmann - Borussia Monchengladbach - 7.310 average rating
92. Claudio Marchisio - Juventus - 7.310 average rating
91. Romain Genevois - Nice - 7.312 average rating
90. Fernandinho - Manchester City - 7.313 average rating
89. Santiago Garcia - Werder Bremen - 7.313 average rating
88. Daniel Didavi - Stuttgart - 7.316 average rating
87. Wahbi Khazri - Bordeaux - 7.321 average rating
86. Idrissa Gueye - Lille & Aston Villa - 7.327 average rating
85. Jeremy Toulalan - Monaco - 7.337 average rating
84. Raul Bobadilla - Augsburg - 7.338 average rating
83. N'Golo Kante - Caen & Leicester - 7.343 average rating
82. Ilkay Gundogan - Borussia Dortmund - 7.344 average rating
81. Wesley Lautoa - Lorient - 7.353 average rating
80. Gonzalo Rodriguez - Fiorentina - 7.353 average rating
79. Jannik Vestergaard - Werder Bremen- 7.359 average rating
78. Yaya Toure - Manchester City - 7.360 average rating
77. Omer Toprak - Bayer Leverkusen - 7.360 average rating
76. Morgan Schneiderlin - Southampton & Manchester United - 7.360 average rating

75. Vieirinha - Wolfsburg - 7.363 average rating
74. Josip Ilicic - Fiorentina - 7.364 average rating
73: Filipe Luis - Chelsea and Atletico Madrid - 7.366 average rating
72: Shkodran Mustafi - Valencia - 7.370 average rating
71: Daniel Parejo - Valencia - 7.370 average rating
70: Salif Sane - Hannover - 7.372 average rating
69: Felipe Anderson - Lazio - 7.379 average rating
68: Tiago - Atletico Madrid - 7.380 average rating
67: Sofiane Boufal - Angers & Lille - 7.382 average rating
66: Jamie Vardy - Leicester - 7.383 average rating
65: Angel Di Maria - PSG - 7.391 average rating
64: Wendell - Bayer Leverkusen - 7.395 average rating
63: Marc Albrighton - Leicester - 7.395 average rating
62: Bas Dost - Wolfsburg - 7.396 average rating
61: Simone Missiroli - Sassuolo - 7.397 average rating
60: Javier Pastore - PSG - 7.400 average rating
59: Fabinho - Monaco - 7.400 average rating
58: Lucas Biglia - Lazio - 7.404 average rating
57: Sergio Aguero - Manchester City - 7.407 average rating
56: Christophe Jallet - Lyon - 7.413 average rating
55: Johannes Geis - Mainz & Schalke - 7.414 average rating
54: Lars Stindl - Hannover & Borussia Monchengladbach - 7.416 average rating
53: Harry Kane - Tottenham - 7.417 average rating
52: Chris Smalling - Manchester United - 7.418 average rating
51. Naldo - Wolfsburg - 7.422 average rating

50. Thomas Muller - Bayern Munich - 7.424 average rating
49. Antoine Griezmann - Atletico Madrid - 7.425 average rating
48. Aleksandar Kolarov - Manchester City - 7.426 average rating
47. Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang - Borussia Dortmund - 7.428 average rating
46. Diego Perotti - Genoa - 7.429 average rating
45. Luka Modric - Real Madrid - 7.429 average rating
44. Arturo Vidal - Juventus & Bayern Munich - 7.435 average rating
43. Stefan Bell - Mainz - 7.446 average rating
42. Granit Xhaka - Borussia Monchengladbach - 7.458 average rating
41. Christian Fuchs - Schalke & Leicester - 7.459 average rating
40. Philippe Coutinho - Liverpool - 7.461 average rating
39. Gonzalo Higuain - Napoli - 7.462 average rating
38. Diego Godin - Atletico Madrid - 7.462 average rating
37. Jonas Hector - Cologne - 7.473 average rating
36. Karim Benzema - Real Madrid - 7.476 average rating
35. Loic Perrin - Saint Etienne - 7.485 average rating
34. Aritz Aduriz - Athletic Bilbao - 7.487 average rating
33. Eden Hazard - Chelsea - 7.488 average rating
32. Nacho Monreal - 7.492 average rating
31. David Silva - Manchester City - 7.493 average rating
30. Mats Hummels - Borussia Dortmund - 7.499 average rating
29. Laurent Koscielny - Arsenal - 7.508 average rating
28. Paul Pogba - Juventus - 7.509 average rating
27. Marco Verratti - Paris St-Germain - 7.52 average rating
26. Layvin Kurzawa - Monaco & Paris St-Germain - 7.524 average rating

25. Nicolas Otamendi - Valencia & Manchester City - 7.547 average rating
24. Nabil Fekir - Lyon - 7.55 average rating
23. Marcelo - Real Madrid - 7.556 average rating
22. Santi Cazorla - Arsenal - 7.570 average rating
21. Francis Coquelin - Arsenal - 7.58 average rating
20. Thiago Silva - Paris Saint-Germain - 7.592 average rating
19. Dimitri Payet - Marseille & West Ham - 7.606 average rating
18. Robert Lewandowski - Bayern Munich - 7.617 average rating
17. Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Borussia Dortmund - 7.618 average rating
16. Ricardo Rodriguez - Wolfsburg - 7.620 average rating
15. Raffael - Borussia Monchengladbach - 7.633 average rating
14. Gareth Bale - Real Madrid - 7.664 average rating
13. Jordan Amavi - Nice & Aston Villa - 7.664 average rating
12. Kevin De Bruyne - Wolfsburg & Manchester City - 7.683 average rating
11. Franco Vazquez - Palermo - 7.691 average rating

10. Alexis Sanchez - Arsenal - 7.724 average rating
9. Nolito - Celta Vigo - 7.753 average rating
8. Mesut Özil - Arsenal - 7.754 average rating
7. Riyad Mahrez - Leicester - 7.762 average rating
6. Luis Suarez - Barcelona - 7.834 average rating
5. Cristiano Ronaldo - Real Madrid - 7.9 average rating
4. James Rodriguez - Real Madrid - 7.904 average rating
3. Zlatan Ibrahimovic - Paris Saint-Germain - 8.077 average rating
2. Neymar - Barcelona - 8.37 average rating

1. Lionel Messi - Barcelona - 8.821 average rating

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Post by rwo power Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:18 pm

Gladbach's Raffael is the best Bundesliga player  (currently playing here, that is)! :bow:

Oh, and Granit Xhaka, Lars Stindl and Patrick Herrmann get some appreciation, too, for once!

But obviously purely statistical ranking for once don't go just by popularity, or one wouldn't see as many Bundesliga players (of less popular clubs than Bayern or Dortmund, too) among a Top5 Leagues Top100 ^^
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:41 pm

3 Bayern players the top50 Laughing

The best on 18th Laughing

We are the second best team in the world, correct would be 20 Bayern players in the top50 :coffee:
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Post by rwo power Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:45 pm

Well, the Guardian has 13 Bayern players and 4 Dortmund players, but not a single player of any other Bundesliga club, which is a bit ridiculous, too. It just shows that the Guardian people obviously only watch Bayern and Dortmund of the BL ^^

Plus adding players like Franck Ribéry, Marco Reus etc show they really go for names and not really the times they actually played.

Just for fun - Guardian vs Whoscored when looking at the Bundesliga:

Guardian:

Bayern - 13 players: Robert Lewandowski, Thomas Müller,  Manuel Neuer, Arturo Vidal, Philipp Lahm, Arjen Robben, David Alaba, Douglas Costa, Jérôme Boateng, Xabi Alonso, Franck Ribéry, Mario Götze, Thiago Alcantara
Dortmund - 4 players: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Marco Reus, Mats Hummels, Henrikh Mkhitaryan

Whoscored:

Borussia Dortmund - 4: Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Mats Hummels, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Ilkay Gündogan
Borussia M'gladbach - 4: Raffael, Granit Xhaka, Lars Stindl, Patrick Herrmann
VfL Wolfsburg - 4: Ricardo Rodriguez, Naldo, Bas Dost, Vierinha
Bayern München -  3: Robert Lewandowski, Arturo Vidal, Thomas Müller
Bayer Leverkusen - 2: Wendell, Ömer Toprak
Werder Bremen - 2: Jannik Vestergaard, Santiago Garcia
1.FC Köln - 1: Jonas Hector
Eintracht Frankfurt: 1: Alex Meier
FC Augsburg - 1: Raul Bobadilla
Hannover 96 - 1: Salif Sané
Mainz 05 - 1: Stefan Bell
Schalke 04 - 1: Johannes Geis
VfB Stuttgart - 1: Daniel Didavi
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Post by Harmonica Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:52 pm

It's the hype/media factor, nobody other than statistics follow those players. Thus statistical analyse is infinitely better than asking somebody who's the best players, when they can't possibly follow every player, every second, and remember the whole year and then actually relate everyone with each other.
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Post by rwo power Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:57 pm

I guess they should write "based on personal preference" for the Guardian list and "based on actual form" for the Whoscored ranking ^^
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