Jose Mourinho Sack Watch

Collblanc wrote:good points. Man.U fans still think they are worldclass, but in reality they are on the same level as Sevilla, AS Roma, Borussia Dortmund etc. They have 0 world class players. Mourinho is doing the best he can with B class material. You can say "he got the tactics wrong", but what if he knows and sees that he has to play this way (2 holding defending midfielders), because playing with attacking midfielders against Sevilla would have crushed them even more.

da gay is a world class keeper tbf

Still have to see how he performs against elite strikers and poachers in CL. Cant take saves against Muriel, Murray, Lacazette etc seriously

Collblanc wrote:good points. Man.U fans still think they are worldclass, but in reality they are on the same level as Sevilla, AS Roma, Borussia Dortmund etc. They have 0 world class players. Mourinho is doing the best he can with B class material. You can say "he got the tactics wrong", but what if he knows and sees that he has to play this way (2 holding defending midfielders), because playing with attacking midfielders against Sevilla would have crushed them even more.

pipe down clown

Mourinho's always been good with a microphone pointed his way, he's a fraud, we have world class players and can't beat shitters like Sevilla etc? he's deflecting anyway. Address why he plays like a complete fraud scared shitless to attack a team for 170 mins like they're prime Ajax

Put a world class manager at the helm of this United team and they would be putting 6 past the likes of Sevilla, there aren't many teams in the world with more stacked squads than us, maybe like 4.

There's a reason we're second in the league, Mou's content to play actual football against scrubs and so the team actually get results, but as soon as it's a big game that means something he reverts to being a complete coward, plays to not lose rather than win.

Who do you consider "World Class" besides De Gea? And on what merit?

Collblanc wrote:Still have to see how he performs against elite strikers and poachers in CL. Cant take saves against Muriel, Murray, Lacazette etc seriously

thats a fair point tbh. but we wont get to see that this season

Collblanc wrote:Who do you consider "World Class" besides De Gea?

he will now hit you with jogba

in a world where people like Dembele and Umshiti are being hailed as world class talents our entire team is STACKED with them tbh. Mou's a coward, end of.

Dont even care what names he drops tbf. More importantly, on what merit do Man.U fans think the players are world class? They have proven themselves in a league of equal teams. Equal teams that also are not very good. Calling Rashford, Martial or Mata worldclass because they scores goals against Arsenal is like calling Augustin (Leipzig) worldclass because he scores against Borussia and Munich

Firenze wrote:in a world where people like Dembele and Umshiti are being hailed as world class talents our entire team is STACKED with them tbh. Mou's a coward, end of.

Dembele just trashed Chelsea in the league of champions while Lukaku was in Lenglet's pocket.

Collblanc wrote:Dont even care what names he drops tbf. More importantly, on what merit do Man.U fans think the players are world class? They have proven themselves in a league of equal teams. Equal teams that also are not very good. Calling Rashford, Martial or Mata worldclass because they scores goals against Arsenal is like calling Augustin (Leipzig) worldclass because he scores against Borussia and Munich

I'm not going to say Man U's team is incredible...he would be right to say it's not on par with Barca, Madrid, Bayern, and Juve...but it's much better than Sevilla

Honestly the rant did a good job at making him seem vindicated but that's because he dodged the main issue

Manchester United lost to Sevilla and they did so while looking like an EPL relegation team trying to get a point away at one of the big boy's stadiums

Honestly even beyond the loss the way United played was *bleep* embarrassing and if I were a man u fan I would be enraged, humiliated and embarrassed. What a *bleep* disgrace (one that I love, mind)

CBarca wrote:I'm not going to say Man U's team is incredible...he would be right to say it's not on par with Barca, Madrid, Bayern, and Juve...but it's much better than Sevilla

Based on what merit!? Serious question.

Spurs team isn't on par with Juve's and Poch often will revert to Mou like tactics, but there's a time and place for it, from the first blow of the whistle isn't that. Look at how Poch got the team playing against Juve, I know they went out but it was a tight game against a legit team. If United would have played actual football and went out to Sevilla it would have been embarrassing but you would chalk it up to Sevilla playing the game of their lives. It honestly didn't even look like they got out of second gear against us. They just had an actual intent to win the game. Mourinho going to Sevilla and parking 10 men in his half for 90 mins from the get go and then has the nerve to pretend like it wasn't all down to his own tactics, just deflecting and scapegoating. There's no excuse for that at all. That's the sign of a true coward. I don't even give a shit about the CL next season under him. What's the point when we see every time he has a game that means anything he will just do the same thing? We got away doing it in the EL last season too because we were playing far inferior teams.

I watched this clown PTB against Celta Vigo and St Etienne FFS.

Firenze wrote:Spurs team isn't on par with Juve's and Poch often will revert to Mou like tactics, but there's a time and place for it, from the first blow of the whistle isn't that. Look at how Poch got the team playing against Juve, I know they went out but it was a tight game against a legit team. If United would have played actual football and went out to Sevilla it would have been embarrassing but you would chalk it up to Sevilla playing the game of their lives. It honestly didn't even look like they got out of second gear against us. They just had an actual intent to win the game. Mourinho going to Sevilla and parking 10 men in his half for 90 mins from the get go and then has the nerve to pretend like it wasn't all down to his own tactics, just deflecting and scapegoating. There's no excuse for that at all. That's the sign of a true coward. I don't even give a shit about the CL next season under him. What's the point when we see every time he has a game that means anything he will just do the same thing? We got away doing it in the EL last season too because we were playing far inferior teams.

I watched this clown PTB against Celta Vigo and St Etienne FFS.

Firenze wrote:Spurs team isn't on par with Juve's and Poch often will revert to Mou like tactics, but there's a time and place for it, from the first blow of the whistle isn't that. Look at how Poch got the team playing against Juve, I know they went out but it was a tight game against a legit team. If United would have played actual football and went out to Sevilla it would have been embarrassing but you would chalk it up to Sevilla playing the game of their lives. It honestly didn't even look like they got out of second gear against us. They just had an actual intent to win the game. Mourinho going to Sevilla and parking 10 men in his half for 90 mins from the get go and then has the nerve to pretend like it wasn't all down to his own tactics, just deflecting and scapegoating. There's no excuse for that at all. That's the sign of a true coward. I don't even give a shit about the CL next season under him. What's the point when we see every time he has a game that means anything he will just do the same thing? We got away doing it in the EL last season too because we were playing far inferior teams.

I watched this clown PTB against Celta Vigo and St Etienne FFS.

I honestly believe he played the PTB tactic because he sees no other option. You lack the creative midfield to play a open attacking posession game. He played 2 defending midfielders, because N'Zonzi, Banega and Vázquez would have made fools of Pogba and Mata: they just lack the positional awareness and defensive skills those guys have. Your midfield would be even more overrun, just like it did when he brought them on. The lack of awareness and defending leaves massive space between the lines. Mourinho hasnt always played like the coward he is today, but the quality of players leaves him no choice. This game is a little bit more complicated then "just attack them and score goals".

At Inter Mourinho had prime Sneijder and still went with a defensive approach

It seems to me like he's continuously trying to replicate the same strategy that saw saw him be successful nearly a decade ago

But quite clearly, he's not a failure even with United. He has locked down the top 4 barring a season ending collapse which would see him jobless, but the blunder obviously is the Sevilla matches and also how he's managed his players

1. Alexis- really thought this would be a great signing for United. He looks lost. You figure a player with his skill and workrate would be a seamless fit into a Mourinho team

2. Pogba- legitimate waste of talent and money

3. Martial- see Pogba; but even worse as he has arguably shown more in a United shirt

Matic and Fellaini on the left; N'Zonzi and Banega on the right. What do you think happens if Mata and Pogba have those defensive duties, against those kind of positions and passes? Mourinho was left with no choice imho

Luca wrote:At Inter Mourinho had prime Sneijder and still went with a defensive approach

It seems to me like he's continuously trying to replicate the same strategy that saw saw him be successful nearly a decade ago

Well yeah, but he had Maicon and Stankovic going high up the pitch, with Lucio going high on the right, leaving Cambiasso on his own to do the defending duties (middle and right), together with the back 3. So only 4 "defending" players. That is why he played them a bit deeper, so he could counter trough Maicon and Stankovic. He just didnt want to expose that back line of 3.

Aye the great NZonzi and Banega forces every one around the world to play ultra defensive pairings with their proven world class dominance

You are absolutely ridiculous.

Firenze wrote:Spurs team isn't on par with Juve's and Poch often will revert to Mou like tactics, but there's a time and place for it, from the first blow of the whistle isn't that. Look at how Poch got the team playing against Juve, I know they went out but it was a tight game against a legit team. If United would have played actual football and went out to Sevilla it would have been embarrassing but you would chalk it up to Sevilla playing the game of their lives. It honestly didn't even look like they got out of second gear against us. They just had an actual intent to win the game. Mourinho going to Sevilla and parking 10 men in his half for 90 mins from the get go and then has the nerve to pretend like it wasn't all down to his own tactics, just deflecting and scapegoating. There's no excuse for that at all. That's the sign of a true coward. I don't even give a shit about the CL next season under him. What's the point when we see every time he has a game that means anything he will just do the same thing? We got away doing it in the EL last season too because we were playing far inferior teams.

I watched this clown PTB against Celta Vigo and St Etienne FFS.

all jokes aside and no trolling here but man u have one of the most expensive squads in the world and in the top 3 highest wage bills in the world but in reality how many truly world class players do you have. you are paying players like ibra and sanchez close to 900k per week for what. you spend like 80mil on martial and he dont get games because sanchez plays and he is finished. da gay is your only world class talent imo. you have more scrubs than liverpool and thats saying something. pogba is a good player but he is not a world beater and goes missing as often as wally. lukaku gets his goals but again goes missing in the big games and only beats on scrub teams. tbh you are a million miles away from city and the big problem you have is you will start next season with the same manager and the big money players you have will also start because they cost so much you have to play them. getting mourinho and paying so much for players was pure panic tbh.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Aye the great NZonzi and Banega forces every one around the world to play ultra defensive pairings with their proven world class dominance

You are absolutely ridiculous.

Not everyone around the world; just Pogba and Mata would have been outplayed. Is this so hard to understand? They dont provide the defensive cover you need.

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:Spurs team isn't on par with Juve's and Poch often will revert to Mou like tactics, but there's a time and place for it, from the first blow of the whistle isn't that. Look at how Poch got the team playing against Juve, I know they went out but it was a tight game against a legit team. If United would have played actual football and went out to Sevilla it would have been embarrassing but you would chalk it up to Sevilla playing the game of their lives. It honestly didn't even look like they got out of second gear against us. They just had an actual intent to win the game. Mourinho going to Sevilla and parking 10 men in his half for 90 mins from the get go and then has the nerve to pretend like it wasn't all down to his own tactics, just deflecting and scapegoating. There's no excuse for that at all. That's the sign of a true coward. I don't even give a shit about the CL next season under him. What's the point when we see every time he has a game that means anything he will just do the same thing? We got away doing it in the EL last season too because we were playing far inferior teams.

I watched this clown PTB against Celta Vigo and St Etienne FFS.

all jokes aside and no trolling here but man u have one of the most expensive squads in the world and in the top 3 highest wage bills in the world but in reality how many truly world class players do you have. you are paying players like ibra and sanchez close to 900k per week for what. you spend like 80mil on martial and he dont get games because sanchez plays and he is finished. da gay is your only world class talent imo. you have more scrubs than liverpool and thats saying something. pogba is a good player but he is not a world beater and goes missing as often as wally. lukaku gets his goals but again goes missing in the big games and only beats on scrub teams. tbh you are a million miles away from city and the big problem you have is you will start next season with the same manager and the big money players you have will also start because they cost so much you have to play them. getting mourinho and paying so much for players was pure panic tbh.

Mourinho is a genius tbh, he makes the entire world think the players are not good enough and doesn't have enough talent to compete.

Ask yourself before Pep arrived how many of City's starting XI was considered world class? probably Aguero and Silva and that's about it.

Ask yourself the same question about Pochettino and Spurs, who were most of their players before him?

Mourinho is an absolute fraud who hides behind the excuses afforded to him due to past glories.

Collblanc wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Aye the great NZonzi and Banega forces every one around the world to play ultra defensive pairings with their proven world class dominance

You are absolutely ridiculous.

Not everyone around the world; just Pogba and Mata would have been outplayed. Is this so hard to understand? They dont provide the defensive cover you need.

tbh people think i just have a pop at pogba to troll man u but thats not true. what exactly does this guy do. he is a CM player and his defensive game is non existent. he gets a few goals and assists but nothing close to the top MF players. like ive been saying he is a good player but tbh he is far from great. juve did well to cash in on him.

Just look at those defensive duties from Fellaini and Matic when N'Zonzi or Banega are on the ball. And people actually believe Mata or Pogba would have done better That's a great idea; lets play 2 midfielders that cant defend for their life, and make them run deep into Sevilla's defensive line, leaving acres of space behind them to exploit. You lot are the real managers.

What the hell are you on about? Mata doesn't play in the CM positions

Pogba would have been fine if the approach wasn't so negative, they had so much time on the ball because of Mourinho's approach not because Sevilla midfield is amazing.

If they were they wouldn't be journeymen playing for Sevilla, honestly can't wait for Bayern to shit all over them tbh.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Unique wrote:

Firenze wrote:Spurs team isn't on par with Juve's and Poch often will revert to Mou like tactics, but there's a time and place for it, from the first blow of the whistle isn't that. Look at how Poch got the team playing against Juve, I know they went out but it was a tight game against a legit team. If United would have played actual football and went out to Sevilla it would have been embarrassing but you would chalk it up to Sevilla playing the game of their lives. It honestly didn't even look like they got out of second gear against us. They just had an actual intent to win the game. Mourinho going to Sevilla and parking 10 men in his half for 90 mins from the get go and then has the nerve to pretend like it wasn't all down to his own tactics, just deflecting and scapegoating. There's no excuse for that at all. That's the sign of a true coward. I don't even give a shit about the CL next season under him. What's the point when we see every time he has a game that means anything he will just do the same thing? We got away doing it in the EL last season too because we were playing far inferior teams.

I watched this clown PTB against Celta Vigo and St Etienne FFS.

all jokes aside and no trolling here but man u have one of the most expensive squads in the world and in the top 3 highest wage bills in the world but in reality how many truly world class players do you have. you are paying players like ibra and sanchez close to 900k per week for what. you spend like 80mil on martial and he dont get games because sanchez plays and he is finished. da gay is your only world class talent imo. you have more scrubs than liverpool and thats saying something. pogba is a good player but he is not a world beater and goes missing as often as wally. lukaku gets his goals but again goes missing in the big games and only beats on scrub teams. tbh you are a million miles away from city and the big problem you have is you will start next season with the same manager and the big money players you have will also start because they cost so much you have to play them. getting mourinho and paying so much for players was pure panic tbh.

Mourinho is a genius tbh, he makes the entire world think the players are not good enough and doesn't have enough talent to compete.

Ask yourself before Pep arrived how many of City's starting XI was considered world class? probably Aguero and Silva and that's about it.

Ask yourself the same question about Pochettino and Spurs, who were most of their players before him?

Mourinho is an absolute fraud who hides behind the excuses afforded to him due to past glories.

i agree that jose is holding them back but how many of the man u players would get into the top teams in the world.