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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:06 pm

http://readlaliga.com/2015/11/18/portugal-spain-discuss-creation-iberian-league/

Love the idea, but they need to get rid of the King's Cup if this is the case. 3 local competitions is simply too much.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:08 pm

League or cup?

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:11 pm

Probably a cup, I can't imagine Portugal or La Liga would be willing to lose CL spots as part of a combined league.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:13 pm

Cup would be quite interesting.

Porto, Benfica, Madrid, barca, Atleti, Sporting can all have great matches against each other.

but in the article it says it's a league
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Post by farfan Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:21 pm

It will probably end up being a third tier competition like the League cup in France and England .
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Post by futbol Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:18 pm

Just merge both leagues. Barca, Real, Atletico, Valencia, Sevilla, Villarreal, Athletic Bilbao, Porto, Benfica. BAH gawd, best league of all times. Like La Liga but with another 2 great teams. :bow:

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Post by farfan Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:21 pm

futbol wrote:Just merge both leagues. Barca, Real, Atletico, Valencia, Sevilla, Villarreal, Athletic Bilbao, Porto, Benfica. BAH gawd, best league of all times. Like La Liga but with another 2 great teams. :bow:


You forgot sporting you pos . :coffee:
The league should get 7 CL spots then , otherwise it wont be worth it for the portuguese teams and whoever they might end up replacing in the spanish top 4
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Post by RealGunner Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:22 pm

Quite sure the likes of Sevilla, Villarreal, Bilbao and Valencia will benefit more from the 7 CL spots than 95% of the portugese sides Laughing
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Post by futbol Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:24 pm

Every team in La Liga should enter the Champions League tbh. It's a league full of champions. (:

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Post by Robespierre Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:28 pm

I remind when MVB promoted to join Eredivise and Belgian league hmm
Anyway it 'd be a cup used from big teams to put the 3rd team , so it's useless thing.
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Post by Harmonica Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:10 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:http://readlaliga.com/2015/11/18/portugal-spain-discuss-creation-iberian-league/

Love the idea, but they need to get rid of the King's Cup if this is the case. 3 local competitions is simply too much.
Just make CDR and Supercup one legged, and there's 5 matches for the competition, which should be enough.
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Post by Kick Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:17 am

I'd be cool if they scrapped the respective league cups and combined them, so both leagues played in their respective league, Europe and this combined cup Thumbs up

Then instead of having the league cup and league winner face off at the start of the season, you could have the combined league cup winner and the two league winners face off in a three way comp over multiple games Thumbs up (probably best as a pre-season thing)
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Post by sportsczy Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:28 am

Spaniards and Portuguese people don't really like each other lol... now you want them to get together and cooperate???
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Post by titosantill Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:01 am

it will be crap..why? teams will play their best players in the ucl and the league, and that's something sponsors will take note of thus preventing major investments. if this was in the di stefano era it would make a bit of sense, considering the historical teams and players involved. but now that we're all complaining about fifa viruses, i personally i'm complaining about crap cups like the super cups and world club cups, players are wary about their health and fitness, this doesn't make any sense.

only way this goes, is if big teams refrain from participating and it becomes sort of an iberian cup winners cup type of competition. and even then, the lack of sponsors and interests will see it die out. it will be a waste of funds and resources
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Post by iftikhar Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:33 am

http://www.goallegacy.net/t30383-should-some-leagues-merge?highlight=merge :whistle:

They should abolish their respective Cups and go with a unified one. Also, UEFA should award both the Champion and Runner-up a place in the EL group stage since both the Spanish and Portuguese Cup winners get that.
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Post by free_cat Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:27 am

I see they are already planning ahead for catalan independence. Great idea, I fully support it (though I would prefer Barça moving to another league).
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Post by titosantill Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:29 am

abolishing the cup does little to help smaller sides within a football's association. if one abolishes the cup and goes for an iberian competition, it hurts the second division teams within both countries that will probably not qualify for the iberian games and now have lost out on playing in the domestic cup competitions. granted the segunda teams hardly ever do well in the cup these days, but it affords them some exposure, little money and win, lose or draw, they're always excited to play against the big teams away from home

with the iberian tournament, you'll also have to asses the calendar. they're not getting saturdays and sundays cos of league games. tuesday and wednesday is ucl, and europa on thursdays. factor in domestic cup games, and you'll be either be running players to the ground with fatigue and inuries cos they still have to train OR the competition will turn into a farce with everyone playing their castilla or junior sides and thus not attracting strong enough sponsors

not to mention, the travel involved. yes, they're neighboring countries, and seville to lisbon is closer than say seville to barcelona. but add the travel with domestic games, european games, and cup games, burning extra miles for some tournament that isn't even uefa sanctioned is a waste of time
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Post by titosantill Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:40 am

by the way, even if by some miracle it becomes a huge deal with the stars of big teams dying to play in it, (which it won't) after looking at the difficulties in spain over the years agreeing to reasonable tv deals, and the fact that portuguese clubs also have their quarrels with the bigger sides over tv finances, what makes anyone think agreeing to distributions will be a glorious picnic for the countries involved?
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Post by windkick Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:52 pm

Sounds like too good of an idea to work out.

Even though I would love the two leagues to abolish it's cups and to form one unified one (or even just merge la Liga and Primeira Liga). It ain't gonna happen, unless say, Catalonia gains independence and brakes away to join Ligue 1. Only then could I see La Liga try to merge with Primeira Liga as a way to make the league more attractive after losing a powerhouse in FC Barcelona. But as mentioned, I just don't see Barca trying to brake away even if Catalonia does gain it's independence; they would likely just stay in La Liga the same way Monaco has stayed in Ligue 1.
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Post by breva Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:25 pm

It's "break".
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