Re: #ThankYouDanielBryan - The Official WWE Thread - Part 23

[Tomwin Lannister]

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in


FFS SHANE O'MAC




First thing I assumed when Vince made it a HIAC is that there's gonna be some f*ckery, the only reason to change it from a normal pinfall match where there are rules.


Was legit giving up on 99% of WWE until I heard about Shane coming back ffs

[M99]

Crowd cheers Triple H and asking for more as he beats the shit out of Reigns

Compare that to the reaction when Triple H gave Bryan his beatdown two years back.

[silver]

Shane O'Mac vs the Undertaker in HIAC
Ambrose getting his ass beat against Lesnar
Reigns vs HHH
AJ Styles doing some crazy shit
No John Cena

Wrestlemania is going to be amaze balls

[Casciavit]

Reigns with a bloody and broken nose couldn't even get sympathy cheers against a heel HHH

Ambrose vs Lesnar no DQ, sounds good.

Shane's return

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

I still have a lot of questions

Like what is Owens doing and are they going to persist with this Styles and Jericho tag team bollocks ( i hope not btw )

[Jonathan28]

Holy shit, I just heard that Shane is back!

WWE finding a way to make me watch Wrestlemania

[Tomwin Lannister]

Reigns with a bloody and broken nose couldn't even get sympathy cheers against a heel HHH

Ambrose vs Lesnar no DQ, sounds good.

Shane's return

A HHH that's been coming out as the authority for Years now and slagging off the crowd for 20 minutes at a time


The generic superman face stuff is so dead in 2016 hopefully they realise that when the Reigns project 2.0 fails again

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

https://gfycat.com/WavyContentAmoeba

[M99]

https://www.facebook.com/wrestlingloldotcom/videos/vb.328651087188252/967243479995673/?type=2&theater

[Casciavit]

I just can't see Shane wrestling. Too many holes.

- Why would Taker fight for Vince?

- He's 46 and hasn't taken a bump in years

- Taker needs someone to carry him through a match, rather than the opposite.

It wouldn't surprise me if he finds a loophole and says Cena will take his place or something.

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Shane apparently said he wants to show his kids the crazy shit he used to do

I think it's gonna happen but i think it's gonna be loads of weapon spam and none of it is gonna make sense but i doubt we'll see much high spots.

Strangely i'm ok with that, i'll likely enjoy it and Lesnar-Ambrose now for the rest of the mid card....

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Just looked this up and since WM18 there's been two IC title matches at WM ( 3 including last years ladder match) and one was the JBL-Mysterio match which lasted 20 seconds and Miz-Barrett which opened the show and lasted 8 minutes.

So we have 8 minutes of IC title singles action in nearly 15 years.

[M99]

-Original storyline was supposed to take place two years ago with Triple H vs. Vince's Guy (Austin or Rock) for power of WWE but Vince nixed the idea because he didn't want to be on TV.

-Deal between Shane & Vince was brokered a few weeks ago

-Shane does NOT have a management position with the company but that could always change

-Shane legitimately felt he would be the 4th generation McMahon to run the WWF/E but Stephanie had surpassed him due to her "product knowledge." Apparently everyone knew this but him. Vince ended up making it very clear that Triple H & Steph would run the company over him and that's why he quit (Makes Shane's promo all the more juicier)

-"There is a significant amount of life imitating art." Apparently there's a belief that a real life power struggle will occur if Shane's fully back in the picture

-Meltzer notes that Shane lives in NY, so it's possible for him to be a weekly television figure while running his company based in China.

-Meltzer and Alvarez discuss the possibility of a brand extension which, they note, have always sucked and never lived up to their potential.

-Meltzer cryptically notes that there's a reason why Triple H was not involved during the first segment. "There's a lot going on..."

-Meltzer notes that fans wouldn't be as receptive to Shane if they knew about his booking ideas. He claims that "almost everybody that I know personally liked Shane over Stephanie" but "when it came to ideas when it came to wrestling...when it came to wrestling angles, it was like Stephanie & Paul are so far ahead of him that it's not even funny."

-Meltzer discusses the idea of Undertaking purposely losing at 'Mania (think Finger Poke of Dome). Alvarez doesn't think this would happen at 'Mania but Meltzer doesn't shoot it down. Makes the point that the fans would get behind it for the greater good of Shane running RAW. The fact that Meltzer even brings this up as a possibility scares me lol.

-Meltzer notes that Vince botched the explanation re: the stipulations of this match. He clarifies that, if Undertaker wins, Vince gets back what's in the lockbox whereas if Shane wins, he controls RAW.

[RealGunner]

Shane's return is a big surprise but Shane vs Taker is probably the worst match they could have made for Taker

Imagine Taker's last ever match being against shane That's on par with his last match being against Rey mysterio. And Rey can actually wrestle.

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Would rather Taker go up against someone who can't wrestle at this point where it leads to a brawl rather than watch someone try and wrestle with him in a normal match and try and fail to carry him.

Not a coincidence that to me at least that the last truly great WM taker matches were HBK and HHH and it was because they turned into brawls.

[RealGunner]

HBK was still a fantastic wrestler and HHH can sill wrestle. Shane has no business in being at the wrestlemania nevermind actually wresting.

Hope there is another swerve and someone like stank fights for Shane instead

[RealGunner]

Speaking of HHH

LMFAOOOOOO at universal cheers for HHH with that Reigns beatdown Not a single boo

Future face of the company getting destroyed by a past it HHH and all crowd does is cheer lmao

[Casciavit]

Agreed. I just can't envision Shane wrestling Taker at 'the biggest WM ever'

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Sting hardly wrestles at this point either, in his match with Rollins he hardly did anything. I'm obviously in the minority here but i'd rather watch a brawl with lots of weapon spam which Shane is capable of pulling off, than watch someone try and fail to carry Taker in an actual wrestling match.

When CM Punk couldn't pull off carrying Taker to the extent he needed to, you know it's time to forget it.

[Rebaño Sagrado]

Shane as a face

[RealGunner]

Sting hardly wrestles at this point either, in his match with Rollins he hardly did anything. I'm obviously in the minority here but i'd rather watch a brawl with lots of weapon spam which Shane is capable of pulling off, than watch someone try and fail to carry Taker in an actual wrestling match.

When CM Punk couldn't pull off carrying Taker to the extent he needed to, you know it's time to forget it.

What? CM Punk vs Taker was a great match lol. One of the best in that Wrestlemania iirc.

Shane was barely a capable wrestler in his prime. Now he looks like he is as good as Cena's Dad. It's not even about the quality of the match at this point. Taker's last ever WM should not be against someone like Shane. Taker deserves a better send off than that.

[Casciavit]

This isn't Taker's last mania lol

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Not to me it wasn't, it was bang average. CM Punk would put on at least half a dozen better matches that year.

Taker hasn't had a good " wrestling " match since HBK, he can't do that anymore. I dunno why anyone would want to try and force it coz legacy. Who cares his legacy is set in stone regardless.

I just don't see the point in trying to force something which he isn't capable of doing, his wrestling skill has wained to the point of non existence. I don't want to see another Bray Wyatt match where you try and force something you can't do.

This is good because it will just be mindless action, which is what you should be doing with old guys as they can't keep the wrestling and the pace up.

I'm really not interested in watching Taker wrestle anymore, put him in a situation where you get a street fight like feel sure but not wrestling matches.

Taker is my favourite ever but he's done and has been for a long time and there is absolutely no point in trying to ignore that and persist with something just doesn't work.

[Tomwin Lannister]

Shane O'Mac - Taker in a HIAC match with stupid spots and weapon fests with the possibility of no DQ fukery >>>>> some generic taker singles match with a wrestler who won't go over him clean.

There will be plenty of rasslin matches throughout the rest of the card, let's have 1 crazy match between these lads and another crazy one with Lesnar and Riegns sidekick

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Shane O'Mac - Taker in a HIAC match with stupid spots and weapon fests with the possibility of no DQ fukery >>>>> some generic taker singles match with a wrestler who won't go over him clean.

There will be plenty of rasslin matches throughout the rest of the card, let's have 1 crazy match between these lads and another crazy one with Lesnar and Riegns sidekick

[Casciavit]

Tom thoughts on the Wyatt burial?

So much potential...ruined

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