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Post by Myesyats Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:20 pm

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guest7 wrote:Thibu is like Messis favorite GK. Cant handle these low balls at all, and any good player with football IQ like Messi will abuse that


Yeah Messi is just any good player with a high IQ’s.

There only one player in Messi’a caliber in history ffs Laughing


Messi doesn't have the highest football IQ of all time, if he did he would be the ideal coach

Players like Zidane had more football IQ than him. I just said anyone with football IQ will outplay Thibu, and it's true. Any coach with proper sense like Allegri will instruct their players to abuse Thibu

Messi has a very high football IQ and he’d be a great coach had he not been lacking other qualities that are necessary for the job namely good leadership skills etc. Also how can you say Zidane has a higher IQ? Did you measure that somehow?

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Post by guest7 Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:09 pm

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Yeah Messi is just any good player with a high IQ’s.

There only one player in Messi’a caliber in history ffs Laughing


Messi doesn't have the highest football IQ of all time, if he did he would be the ideal coach

Players like Zidane had more football IQ than him. I just said anyone with football IQ will outplay Thibu, and it's true. Any coach with proper sense like Allegri will instruct their players to abuse Thibu

Messi has a very high football IQ and he’d be a great coach had he not been lacking other qualities that are necessary for the job namely good leadership skills etc. Also how can you say Zidane has a higher IQ? Did you measure that somehow?


I never said Messi doesn't have a high football IQ, but I disagree he has a coaching future. It's been pretty much a joke on GL that Messi is a player coach but he literally has taken any team he "coaches" (which seems to be Argentina mostly where he has most control over matters as shown by Jorge Sampaoli asking him if he should sub in Aguero or not) anywhere.

Meanwhile Zidane has carried Real Madrid to 3 consecuative CLs. No matter what you're going to say about him you can't deny that he knows tactics, but it wasn't the most pretty football. He still tried hard to defend our weaknesses and his subs against Juve (subbed in Vazquez to protect the wings from further crossing balls to Madzukic) shows he is competent in the tactics area. That's not the only one but it was an example, so you get what I'm trying to convey
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:26 pm

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https://twitter.com/realmadrid/status/1027273297631879169?s=19
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Post by Kaladin Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:31 pm

Chelsea go RINSED rofl

Developing a player for Madrid rofl

35m fee for Courtois rofl
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:45 pm

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Post by Firenze Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:47 pm

yeah, unreal shambles

sign some numpty named Kepa for 80m

35m for a B+ GK with 1 year left isnt too bad tbh

but to then announce that Kovacic is coming for a season long loan in their official twitter statement that Thibu is leaving  like it's some kind of huge coup

my sides

developing him for Madrid ffs


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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:49 pm

Chelsea statement

We have tonight agreed terms with Real Madrid for the transfer of Thibaut Courtois, subject to the agreement of personal terms and a medical. As part of the deal, Mateo Kovacic will join Chelsea on a season-long loan.

Acting like we doing them a favour when the only reason Kova went there was for playing time
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Post by Kebab Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:05 pm

guest7 wrote:
Myesyats wrote:
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Messi doesn't have the highest football IQ of all time, if he did he would be the ideal coach

Players like Zidane had more football IQ than him. I just said anyone with football IQ will outplay Thibu, and it's true. Any coach with proper sense like Allegri will instruct their players to abuse Thibu

Messi has a very high football IQ and he’d be a great coach had he not been lacking other qualities that are necessary for the job namely good leadership skills etc. Also how can you say Zidane has a higher IQ? Did you measure that somehow?


I never said Messi doesn't have a high football IQ, but I disagree he has a coaching future. It's been pretty much a joke on GL that Messi is a player coach but he literally has taken any team he "coaches" (which seems to be Argentina mostly where he has most control over matters as shown by Jorge Sampaoli asking him if he should sub in Aguero or not) anywhere.

Meanwhile Zidane has carried Real Madrid to 3 consecuative CLs. No matter what you're going to say about him you can't deny that he knows tactics, but it wasn't the most pretty football. He still tried hard to defend our weaknesses and his subs against Juve (subbed in Vazquez to protect the wings from further crossing balls to Madzukic) shows he is competent in the tactics area. That's not the only one but it was an example, so you get what I'm trying to convey
its not only thibuuu, messi nutmegs everyone. its like his favorite skill
when it comes to scoring messi has more IQ than zidane
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Post by guest7 Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:13 pm

Kebab wrote:
guest7 wrote:
Myesyats wrote:

Messi has a very high football IQ and he’d be a great coach had he not been lacking other qualities that are necessary for the job namely good leadership skills etc. Also how can you say Zidane has a higher IQ? Did you measure that somehow?


I never said Messi doesn't have a high football IQ, but I disagree he has a coaching future. It's been pretty much a joke on GL that Messi is a player coach but he literally has taken any team he "coaches" (which seems to be Argentina mostly where he has most control over matters as shown by Jorge Sampaoli asking him if he should sub in Aguero or not) anywhere.

Meanwhile Zidane has carried Real Madrid to 3 consecuative CLs. No matter what you're going to say about him you can't deny that he knows tactics, but it wasn't the most pretty football. He still tried hard to defend our weaknesses and his subs against Juve (subbed in Vazquez to protect the wings from further crossing balls to Madzukic) shows he is competent in the tactics area. That's not the only one but it was an example, so you get what I'm trying to convey
its not only thibuuu, messi nutmegs everyone. its like his favorite skill
when it comes to scoring messi has more IQ than zidane


For sure, Messis IQ in scoring is insane. He knows exactly when to chip it or nutmeg it or just shoot it.

But does he know anything about defending? I don't think so.
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Post by S Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:19 pm

Doubt Kovacic gets much playtime there as well

Can see Chelsea act petty for the sake of it after having already taken the L with Courtois

Il nouvo Sahin imo
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Post by Freeza Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:19 pm

Does he know anything about defending?

I’m dead here. This is a farce.

I’m beginning to see what turned Harmonica crazy. Having to listen to this idiotic rambling.

Messi has an other worldly football mind. Stop acting like he’s just good in that department. It’s embarrassing. He’s dominated once time and time again without scoring because he knows so much about defensive movements and know just how every pass should be made
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Post by sportsczy Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:19 pm

Zidane was never a scorer... only big goals in big games... so I don't see the comparison.

It's like saying Messi doesn't control the midfield as well as Zidane. Well of course he doesn't!!!!

To get back on topic... strikers don't make the best managers typically. Why? There's nothing in front of them other than the goal. They don't get a chance to observe much when they play. Central defenders and keepers typically make the best managers... DMs too. They get to see the most of the play in front of them.

That said, being a manager is 2/3 psychology imo and 1/3 tactics. So if you have the personality to motivate people, it's best skill that you can have at any coaching level. Doesn't mean tactics aren't critical either... but that can be learned. Being a leader is something you're born with.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:20 pm

S wrote:Doubt Kovacic gets much playtime there as well

Can see Chelsea act petty for the sake of it after having already taken the L with Courtois

Il nouvo Sahin imo


Nah he will, the alternatives are just not good enough.
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Post by M99 Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:22 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
S wrote:Doubt Kovacic gets much playtime there as well

Can see Chelsea act petty for the sake of it after having already taken the L with Courtois

Il nouvo Sahin imo


Nah he will, the alternatives are just not good enough.


Unreal lack of faith on Brexit lads Loftus Cheek, Drinkwater and Ross Barkley.
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Post by S Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:27 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
S wrote:Doubt Kovacic gets much playtime there as well

Can see Chelsea act petty for the sake of it after having already taken the L with Courtois

Il nouvo Sahin imo


Nah he will, the alternatives are just not good enough.


I very much have doubts that this loan move will turn out to be a 'success' regardless of whether its got to do anything with his long term future.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:27 pm

Loftus Cheek is good but doesn't seem like Chelsea want to use him hmm

The others are trash imo.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:34 pm

Will this transfer open the floodgates and bring me my long-awaited striker or will we shut up shop now and play Asensio as false nine for the rest of the season?
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Post by Thimmy Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:24 pm

Flo did promise "more great signings" during Odriozola's presentation, but I'm not expecting anything at this point in time. Courtois is by no means an awful acquisition, but It's not as if we we've been suffering with Navas between the sticks. I'm just a bit puzzled about the likely scenario of our one, big, incoming transfer in this window being a goalkeeper. You'd think that position was at the bottom of our list of priorities.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:49 pm

we do the deals that are available, the stars we want for the attack are not available, so we wait.

if Hazard like Courtois had skipped training, i genuinely wonder if CHelsea would have sat down to talk about a transfer.
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Post by Unique Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:20 pm

ronaldo for Courtois. great deal tbh. Thumbs up
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Post by Freeza Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:21 pm

Unique wrote:ronaldo for Courtois. great deal tbh. Thumbs up


This doesn’t make sense in any way
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Post by Unique Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:23 pm

Freeza wrote:
Unique wrote:ronaldo for Courtois. great deal tbh. Thumbs up


This doesn’t make sense in any way
it will to nick. Laughing
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:42 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:we do the deals that are available, the stars we want for the attack are not available, so we wait.

if Hazard like Courtois had skipped training, i genuinely wonder if CHelsea would have sat down to talk about a transfer.

Hazard would never have done that. He's just not that kinda player. Plus he's not naturally a c**t like the long nosed bellend.

Also, one key fact to take not of is that unlike Courtois whose wife and kids have been settled in Madrid this whole time, Hazard's wife and kids have been settled in London and his wife has been said to actually love London and prefers to stay. So there's no family sentiment pulling him that way.

All Hazard has asked for is that the club show some ambition in the transfer market. Even though we've left it late, I think we've done a fairly decent job of that so far. Just need to get a RW and/or CF of high quality now.

Hazard to Madrid isn't happening. He'll sign a new deal before December. Not even sure Madrid are keen on him anymore and word coming from his camp is that he's more likely to stay now.
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:45 pm

Also, if Modric stays at Madrid and Kovacic has a good season at Chelsea, he's staying at Chelsea. You can come back to this post in a year's time.

Even though English journos are saying there's an option to by, I'll go with the story from Madrid media that there's no option.

Still, I think you've lost Kovacic for good. Which shouldn't matter to you lot anyway. You've had an unprecedented 5 year run. A few dry spells over the next few years shouldn't bother you much. Smile
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Post by Freeza Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:50 pm

Well, we usually put it in the official communication if there's an option to buy. It was in the James news, but not in the Kovacic news.

Can't see why he wouldn't return under any circumstances? We've done this a lot of times before, either with loans or buy backs, when the clubs didn't want to settle for a loan, which Chelsea somehow accepted.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:55 pm

There is no option to buy but what he says is true because if Kovacic is playing in chelsea every week and Sarri trusts him he will have no reason to come back to Madrid if he is not also promised to start.
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