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Post by Unique Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:24 pm

chad4401 wrote:if a player wasn't used properly or wanted a different move and clearly wasted a year, they can't be called flops imo.

if your at your best, giving it your all and still couldn't handle it, then fair enough.
what player would move to a new club and not give it his all.

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Post by chad4401 Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:36 pm

the ones who get forced out, the one who get misused and the one the manager treats like crap because the player doesn't fit their profile.

there is a lot that goes on behind the scene not everything is black or white.
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Post by Unique Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:45 pm

chad4401 wrote:the ones who get forced out, the one who get misused and the one the manager treats like crap because the player doesn't fit their profile.

there is a lot that goes on behind the scene not everything is black or white.
if a player comes in works hard a really gives his all he will get games and time to prove himself. if a top class player goes to a club and flops most of the time its down to his attitude. coutinho came to the lge for 8 mil and couldent get a game for inter. di maria came to the lge as a 60mil world class player from Madrid. coutinho showed plenty of fight and worked hard to make it. di maria didn't have the heart to fight for his place. and its not only them 2. others have gone the same way. when you go to a new club you can fight and show people what you can do. or you can drop your head and roll over.
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Post by chad4401 Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:56 pm

di maria always wanted PSG, why is that so hard for some of you prem lovers to understand.

manu is irrelevant right now just like pool, so some players might not care if they do well for the fans, if it means securing a better move else where.
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Post by salmano9 Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:19 am

Lol Torres at Milan?
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Post by Unique Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:47 am

chad4401 wrote:di maria always wanted PSG, why is that so hard for some of you prem lovers to understand.

manu is irrelevant right now just like pool, so some players might not care if they do well for the fans, if it means securing a better move else where.
really. he only wanted PSG. he had the chance to play for one of the worlds biggest clubs in one of the best lge. he didn't have what it takes to make it at man u so he dropped his head and gave up. as a Liverpool fan I have no love for man u. but tbh di maria don't have what it takes to play for a club like man u.
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Post by chad4401 Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:43 am

its an well established fact that di maria wanted psg, he already won the 10th with madrid> anything manu and the prem.

he has nothing to prove and can go to which ever club he chooses, even use a great club like manu as a checkpoint, to get the moves he wanted he earned the right.
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Post by Luca Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:09 am

Shouldn't leagues by replaced with teams?
Players who didn't cut it in certain teams?

I think that is a way bigger factor than the league itself. I don't believe in these league myths, personally.

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Post by Unique Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:03 am

chad4401 wrote:its an well established fact that di maria wanted psg, he already won the 10th with madrid> anything manu and the prem.

he has nothing to prove and can go to which ever club he chooses, even use a great club like manu as a checkpoint, to get the moves he wanted he earned the right.
he had lots to prove. but as you saw he couldent hack it at a big club in England. he wanted PSG because it was the easy way out. he could stay and fight for a place in a big club in England. or he could put his tail between his legs and run to france. tbh. the way he gave up and left without a fight. france is the perfect place for him. Wink
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Post by titosantill Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:17 am

Luca wrote:Shouldn't leagues by replaced with teams?
Players who didn't cut it in certain teams?

I think that is a way bigger factor than the league itself. I don't believe in these league myths, personally.


agree with this 100 percent. mancin (the brazilian) wasn't all that at inter, mainly because mourinho brought him in as a role player...if he hadn't been playing at roma where he was brilliant, people would have said the "he couldn't cut it in serie a", but it was clearly a team issue. tevez is another example, he was at a garbage west ham side and already people were saying "oh the league is too tough for him", but he showed his class when he joined teams with some sense and good management

as for di maria, the guy showed moments of brilliance at united, his first couple of games he was solid, until somewhere along the line him and van gaal crossed paths. now he did NOT sign for utd with the plan of "i'll mess up so i can go to psg next year", that's just ridiculous. he also did NOT get overwhelmed the "pace and strength" of the epl, that too is ridiculous....it was a clash of personalities, maybe van gaal didn't like something he was doing in training

the reason i categorize him as flop is the price tag. your price tag comes with a lot of responsibility...the same with ibra. anyone who says la liga was too tough for ibra, is either an idiot or didn't watch him play. it wasn't until late February/early march that he n pep fell out. but he's considered a flop cos of that price tag....if a club signs you for 46 million plus eto'o (who was still a top ten striker at the time), and the coach tells u to play out wide(as foolish as it sounds), you better do it and do it well....hell, you probably cost more than most of the staff at the club (excluding players n coach) will make in a year combined...it becomes about responsibilities than skill
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