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Post by Gil Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:28 pm

With Pepito binning those two German frauds Kroos and Schweini he finally gets his chance to establish himself as the best CM in football. Unlike Lahm who's deceived the entire world because of one (rubbish) throwaway comment from Pep he's actually extremely gifted in that role.

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Post by futbol Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:34 pm

He has the physical tools but his passing and vision isn't that of an elite central midfielder. These crazy experiments only really work against smaller teams, i. e. the entire German league and CL group stage games against the likes of City where Bayern can even dominate with 10 men let alone 11 men with Alaba in midfield. But against the elite it will always get exposed. Martinez-Thiago-Götze is what the midfield should be.

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Post by VivaStPauli Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:48 pm

While Alaba actually is good at midfield, I just see no merit in moving him there when there's no proper replacement at LB, same goes for Lahm, who is at least decent in midfield, yet playing him there means giving the important RB position to f*cking Rafinha.

I get moving those two to midfield. But it just makes no sense, when you got actual midfielders to play there, and, more importantly: cannot replace Alaba or Lahm as fullbacks.
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Post by Gil Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:09 pm

Fußball wrote:He has the physical tools but his passing and vision isn't that of an elite central midfielder. These crazy experiments only really work against smaller teams, i. e. the entire German league and CL group stage games against the likes of City where Bayern can even dominate with 10 men let alone 11 men with Alaba in midfield. But against the elite it will always get exposed. Martinez-Thiago-Götze is what the midfield should be.


Wait, so you dismiss Alaba because he supposedly lacks vision & passing technique yet include that donkey Javi Martinez in a Pep midfield? Laughing



This is a complete midfield performance. Alaba is a throwback to the days of Lothar Matthaus son.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:10 pm

How much for Hazard, Gil?
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Post by Gil Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:12 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:While Alaba actually is good at midfield, I just see no merit in moving him there when there's no proper replacement at LB, same goes for Lahm, who is at least decent in midfield, yet playing him there means giving the important RB position to f*cking Rafinha.

I get moving those two to midfield. But it just makes no sense, when you got actual midfielders to play there, and, more importantly: cannot replace Alaba or Lahm as fullbacks.


I think Bernat moves to LB permanently & Lahm should too but apparently he's on record saying he prefers playing in midfield as apposed to his natural fullback position. If he indeed said that then Pep only has himself to blame after that stupid "most intelligent player" quote.
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Post by VivaStPauli Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:13 pm

Bernat is shit at defending though, I see him more as a classical LM that has shit finishing.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:15 pm

Pep is far ahead of all of you tbh
Except Gil.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:39 pm

He can play CM just like Di Maria can. Both are kinda like tbh.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:45 pm

Quit trolling RG
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Post by Abramovich Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:47 pm

Fußball wrote:He has the physical tools but his passing and vision isn't that of an elite central midfielder. These crazy experiments only really work against smaller teams, i. e. the entire German league and CL group stage games against the likes of City where Bayern can even dominate with 10 men let alone 11 men with Alaba in midfield. But against the elite it will always get exposed. Martinez-Thiago-Götze is what the midfield should be.


GTFO you racist.

Alaba defo has the vision and ESPECIALLY the passing range for midfield.

SMH.

But Gil needs to GTFO hyping my boy, because people will start rating him less.

I'm the #1 Alaba fan here.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:48 pm

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Post by titosantill Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:52 pm

Gil wrote:
Fußball wrote:He has the physical tools but his passing and vision isn't that of an elite central midfielder. These crazy experiments only really work against smaller teams, i. e. the entire German league and CL group stage games against the likes of City where Bayern can even dominate with 10 men let alone 11 men with Alaba in midfield. But against the elite it will always get exposed. Martinez-Thiago-Götze is what the midfield should be.


Wait, so you dismiss Alaba because he supposedly lacks vision & passing technique yet include that donkey Javi Martinez in a Pep midfield? Laughing



This is a complete midfield performance. Alaba is a throwback to the days of Lothar Matthaus son.


Fußball's right, these experiments tend to do well against novices. and javi martinez is listed probably as a defensive mid more-so than a central mid, to do the dirty work i think
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Post by futbol Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:02 pm

Obviously when I think of Martinez I'm thinking of him at the base of a 3 man midfield as a defensive midfielder and not as a central midfielder.

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Post by Kaladin Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:07 pm

Why would anyone put Martinez in midfield lol? He's no Benzema
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:31 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Quit trolling RG


Ffs. I said that with good heart.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:31 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Quit trolling RG


Ffs. I said that with good heart.



Stop trolling.
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Post by Onyx Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:38 pm

----------------Neuer
---Boateng---Hummels---Alaba(B2B CB, covers LB when def)
------Lahm----Javi-----Thiago
--Robben------Gotze------Reus
----------------Lewa

4-3-3 shape when defending.

hmm

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Post by futbol Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:39 pm

MT, what's Alaba's agility level like?

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Post by Onyx Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:42 pm

86, enough to play B2B false CB defending LB. hmm

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Post by RealGunner Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:44 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:----------------Neuer
---Boateng---Hummels---Alaba(B2B CB, covers LB when def)
------Lahm----Javi-----Thiago
--Robben------Gotze------Reus
----------------Lewa

4-3-3 shape when defending.

hmm


Need to ditch Lahm in midfield.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:46 pm

After MTs Xavi like display on clubs i believe we should listen to his wisdom tbh.
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Post by Onyx Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:07 am

Best to keep Lahm in the middle imo, Robben needs to stay wide so he can dribble and cut in.

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Post by RealGunner Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:07 am

Bench Lahm altogether?

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Post by Onyx Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:11 am

Without Lahm they can't really play 3 at the back imo, need someone covering RB when defending. Plus Lahm is good as a poor mans Xavi with defensive ability. hmm

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