Re: Copa América 2015

by Casciavit Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:20 pm

Have to give it to Sampaoli, Chile looked much better than Arg during the game. Set up his team amazingly well in terms of defending against Leo. His team talk pre-shootout must have worked wonders too, considering the players had a cocky swagger and were extremely confident while Argentina and Masche were crying.

Deserved win.

by breva Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:20 pm

Maradona is Maradona, only Pele is comparable. Messi is a great player, but no Maradona (or Pele). In a game like this Maradona would have had the ball nearly continuously until an Argentina goal was scored. Sanchez, though much less talented than Maradona, looked more like Maradona in this game.

by breva Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:22 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:Messi is a bit more skilled than Maradona, I think. Maradona just had more mental ability, tho. Mainly tenacity. That's the real difference between the 2, really. I still consider Messi Argentna's all time best tho.

Maradona was far more talented than Messi is today. He also displayed his talent with defenders that took no prisoners and could foul at will.

by ahmad25 Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:30 pm

breva wrote:Maradona is Maradona, only Pele is comparable. Messi is a great player, but no Maradona (or Pele). In a game like this Maradona would have had the ball nearly continuously until an Argentina goal was scored. Sanchez, though much less talented than Maradona, looked more like Maradona in this game.

that why maradona never won copa america? "He would had the ball untill argentina scored" Laughing

Every player has bad games nobody is unstoppable

by jibers Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:32 pm

Casciavit wrote:Have to give it to Sampaoli, Chile looked much better than Arg during the game. Set up his team amazingly well in terms of defending against Leo. His team talk pre-shootout must have worked wonders too, considering the players had a cocky swagger and were extremely confident while Argentina and Masche were crying.

Deserved win.

Agreed. Argentina should sack Tata and try and to hire him.

by Lord Awesome Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:39 pm

The real MVP is the guy who decided to spare Vidal his punishment. Laughing

by guest_07 Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:45 pm

guest_07 wrote:can messi repeat what riquelme have done to claudio bravo & his gang in almost single handedly manner despite did not played any official match for several months?

riquelme vs chile, 2010 wc qualifying:

i still waiting the answer for this.....................

by RealGunner Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:02 pm

Answer is no

by guest_07 Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:12 pm

RealGunner wrote:Answer is no

thanks for the answer, rg

by RealGunner Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:17 pm

It's okay

Wish questions like these came up in my exams

by guest_07 Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:18 pm

RealGunner wrote:It's okay

Wish questions like these came up in my exams

lol

by guest_07 Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:48 pm

which performance was better?

messi vs chile, 2015 copa america final

or

riquelme vs brazil, 2007 copa america final

by DeviAngel Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:49 pm

guest_07 wrote:which performance was better?

messi vs chile, 2015 copa america final

or

riquelme vs brazil, 2007 copa america final

If I say Riquelme would you stop comparing him with Messi Very Happy

?

by guest_07 Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:50 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
guest_07 wrote:which performance was better?

messi vs chile, 2015 copa america final

or

riquelme vs brazil, 2007 copa america final

If I say Riquelme would you stop comparing him with Messi ?

lol, probably not Smile

in order to be the best , we should compare them with the best

peace

by titosantill Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:15 pm

its a bit ridiculous to compare two losing finalists, what is there to compare? who played worse?

by DeviAngel Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:16 pm

guest_07 wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
guest_07 wrote:which performance was better?

messi vs chile, 2015 copa america final

or

riquelme vs brazil, 2007 copa america final

If I say Riquelme would you stop comparing him with Messi ?

lol, probably not

in order to be the best , we should compare them with the best

peace

I was joking mate, two different years, philosophies, team, etc. You can never ever compare two matches Smile

by guest_07 Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:26 pm

titosantill wrote:its a bit ridiculous to compare two losing finalists, what is there to compare? who played worse?

to show who played better despite his team lose

by titosantill Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:32 pm

this Argentina problem is probably mental. in my opinion their fans should consider it a disgrace they didn't win, the worst Brazil side in years, a depleted Uruguay, there's no excuse. and on paper this is probably one of the best Argentine sides, a lot of top players at top clubs but they mostly look human for their national team. aguero has been a shadow of himself for argentina, higuain smh (although lets be fair, had higuain scored that chance he got and they won, he'd probably not get any praise, people will probably put up messi's "dribble" stats), tevez? that tevez gets ignored for argentina is a mystery, the guy's attitude is probably what they need when everyone is so lukewarm

by titosantill Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:34 pm

there is no need to show who played better in a loss imo. a loss is a loss, you don't win the silver, you lose the gold

by Cruijf Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:37 pm

Putting on Higuain was a stupid move in a long list of stupid moves by Tata. You're struggle to create anything and you put on a poacher?

Not to mention his history of choking.

by breva Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:44 pm

ahmad25 wrote:
breva wrote:Maradona is Maradona, only Pele is comparable. Messi is a great player, but no Maradona (or Pele). In a game like this Maradona would have had the ball nearly continuously until an Argentina goal was scored. Sanchez, though much less talented than Maradona, looked more like Maradona in this game.
that why maradona never won copa america? "He would had the ball untill argentina scored"

Every player has bad games nobody is unstoppable

How does the fact that Maradona's Argentina didn't win a Copa America (they won a World Cup after all) affect my point that Maradona would have had the ball nearly continuously until Argentina scored a goal? I am trying to understand the point you are making.

by guest_07 Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:45 pm

titosantill wrote:there is no need to show who played better in a loss imo. a loss is a loss, you don't win the silver, you lose the gold

when you evaluate some player, you need to, unless you only concern about trophy

no trophy, no football ( if that's what you want to apply here)

by jibers Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:45 pm

For me Riquelme is more complete than Messi (:

by Casciavit Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:49 pm

Messi is a smart player, but I really am surprised as to why he refused to change up his game when it clearly wasn't working. Chile were making sure his back was facing the goal and when he did regain his balance and faced forward they slide tackled the ball off him.

Should have switched it up with off the ball runs or stay wide and actually play as a winger.

by Ganso Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:50 pm

Valdivia asked a minute of silence for Argentina at the celebrations Laughing

you legend

by guest_07 Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:51 pm

jibers wrote:For me Riquelme is more complete than Messi (:

for me, riquelme actually a combination of xavi + iniesta + messi

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