Re: Copa América 2015

by messixaviesta Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:09 pm

À bout de souffle wrote:1990: Argentina lost to Germany 1-0
1991: won Copa America on Chilean soil

2014: Argentina lost to Germany 1-0
2015: ???

Good one

by Rebaño Sagrado Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:10 pm

Hope Chile can finally get their trophy.

by messixaviesta Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:11 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Considering Paraguay knocked out Brazil, they must feel really lucky not to have played against this Messi

Of course. If Argentina beat Paraguay 6-1 for how many days will people talk about it but if Argentina had beaten Brazil 6-1 would the mentions ever end? In fact last year's mauling by Germany would have been forgotten in comparison. Smile

by messixaviesta Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:15 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:Argentina are lucky MA boy ADM is fit for the final or they would lose it. They have the copa trophy in the bag tbh just sorting out some technicalities
Pls he's been playing like shit all tournament

LVG has ruined him

I don't think Di Maria has been that bad. In fact there is too much hate on him for my liking. However the Argentine player who has far exceeded my expectations in this Copa is Javier Pastore. He might be the third best player in the tournament after Messi and Valdivia.

by messixaviesta Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:20 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:Messi in the past 12 months (a little less) has played in WC Final, CdR Final, CL Final and now Copa Final (so has Masche).

Yes. He has won three of them and now just has to win the fourth one. At the risk of angering my fellow Barca fans this might be even more important than the UCL from Messi's perspective.

by messixaviesta Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:23 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

The thing I like about Pastore is that he is someone that you can play off. When Messi passes the ball to Aguero, Tevez or to a lesser extent Di Maria these all hold the ball and try to get past their marker. Pastore will pass it off with one touch, or see an upcoming run ahead, etc. He diversifies our creation and allows Messi to play one twos off him.

Excellent point

by messixaviesta Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:25 pm

zigra wrote:
ahmad25 wrote:What i mean that it will give excuse for haters that he didnt do enough for argentina. Even though winning copa america and reaching WC final is a great achivement for the supposed national team flop

WTF
This is about Argentina winning the CA, not about someone being happy with how many goals Messi scores. If another system works better they should try it but certainly not because someone isn't satisfied by how many goals Messi scores.
Gladly Messi knows it matters *bleep* all if he scores 1 or 3 or 5 goals. There's only one thing that matters and it's winning the trophy and Messi is doing his best to achieve that.

If only many other people had such a well balanced perspective

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:47 pm

messixaviesta wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Can Messi do what Riquelme did and choke in the final?

Perhaps.

Messi was sub par in the final of WC 2014 and that still irks me but he is too good a player to keep choking in international finals.

While i don't disagree, that post was a joke because Guest is such a Riquelme fan Razz

by messixaviesta Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:08 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
messixaviesta wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Can Messi do what Riquelme did and choke in the final?

Perhaps.

Messi was sub par in the final of WC 2014 and that still irks me but he is too good a player to keep choking in international finals.

While i don't disagree, that post was a joke because Guest is such a Riquelme fan

I half guessed that but thanks for clarifying.

by Glory Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:41 pm

Damn dose chilean scums will surely unleash all their dirty tricks today to get a win. Mad

Hope the ref wont bottle it if it comes to that.

by Mr_Puyol Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:12 pm

Messi's got this

by Rebaño Sagrado Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:14 pm

PEGALE

by Perucho21 Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:15 pm

Chile has only defeated Argentina once, and that was the famous match in the 2010 qualifiers.

Argentina won't sweep Chile. But it will be a close win for them.