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Post by Myesyats Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:45 pm

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I hope he plays some friendlies with ESP this month.

Btw I'd rather Halilovic go on loan to Rayo. Paco Jemez is an awesome coach

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:45 pm

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Says they have made their final offer to Alves, its up to him.


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Post by The Franchise Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:46 pm

Maybe. But Denis Suarez has been used by them and from what I can tell, the boy is alot more talented.

Overall, I dont really want him loaned. We are creating a reputation here.

Nobody is going to believe us when we say to a young player, come join us, play for the B's and in 2 seasons..you get promoted. They are going to realise it means come play for the B's and then go out on loan somewhere.

I guess some kids are fine with it, as they still have their foot in the door at Barca. But others are going to think they may aswell just go straight to that smaller loanee team, thus skipping the indignity of playing 3rd divison football for Barca B.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:49 pm

Halilovic needs to go on loan. He's going to get promoted this summer as it's in his contract and he's still too young to break through.

I have lots of faith in this lad. Think he can make it along with Samper.

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Post by Donuts Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:51 pm

we have too much talent on the same level and can't keep everyone
rafinha deserves the first midfield substitute out of the rest.
sergi roberto deserves to play the DM role more as he seems to excel in it.

Samper and Halilovic wont enjoy being behind those two

and its only going to get worse as we are linked with pogba/gundogan etc.
we need to either loan or sell eventually.
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Post by eelir Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:52 pm

I guess Halilovic asked to be loaned out (speculating here). I read some days ago that he would not want to play in segunda, and probably with Pedro staying will not have much of a chance to start with the first team, so he chose the third option.
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Post by The Franchise Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:54 pm

I know he has to be promoted, im not saying he should stay with the B's..im saying he should be in the first team.

There is no such thing as too young in my opinion. Its either he is good enough or isnt yet. If he isnt good enough, then so be it.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:55 pm

Donuts wrote:we have too much talent on the same level and can't keep everyone
rafinha deserves the first midfield substitute out of the rest.
sergi roberto deserves to play the DM role more as he seems to excel in it.

Samper and Halilovic wont enjoy being behind those two

and its only going to get worse as we are linked with pogba/gundogan etc.
we need to either loan or sell eventually.

Rafinha and Halilovic could be Iniesta's replacements.

Samper is already far better than Sergi Roberto imo and will be Busi's heir.

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Post by The Franchise Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:56 pm

Donuts wrote:we have too much talent on the same level and can't keep everyone
rafinha deserves the first midfield substitute out of the rest.
sergi roberto deserves to play the DM role more as he seems to excel in it.

Samper and Halilovic wont enjoy being behind those two

and its only going to get worse as we are linked with pogba/gundogan etc.
we need to either loan or sell eventually.

I agree. The difference I have though is that Roberto doesnt deserve anything..he has done fine in the role, but Samper is a different level of quality if given the time.

And I really enjoy Rafinha, but he isnt quite good enough.
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Post by Donuts Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:59 pm

selling sergi roberto for samper would be a risk in it's own.
samper right now is all talk and hasn't shown us too much.

Barca B was hardly a test to players considering they couldn't even stay in division 2. (i'm aware it's the coaches fault) but from special talent i expect them to stick out even in a crappy managed team.

another problem with the DM problem is i don't see lucho playing either sergi samper / roberto in an important game if buscuit is injured..
we'll just opt for mascherano.
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Post by The Franchise Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:04 pm

What risk?

There is Busquets and there is Mascherano who both play ahead of him.

What would you like Samper to show you though? Its not like he has played many games with the first team.

Staying in the league? You think thats on any individual player? You know better than that.


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Post by Donuts Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:10 pm

I'm just saying that sergi roberto has shown us what he can do and samper really right now is hype.
like how can one say that samper is better.. we haven't seen him at all in a high level.

Lucho doesn't take risks like pep, I don't ever see him playing samper/roberto (unless it's the early copa de rey matches or dead games) over mascherano in the DM position.. didn't we also put rakitic over roberto at one point this season?

a loan would do the youth players better than sticking at the bench
we if had pep i'd say otherwise but we don't.
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Post by windkick Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:19 pm

Like Jona, it's time for Sergi to go elsewhere and try and get regular PT.
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Post by futbol Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:23 pm

I don't think Samper can play lone holding midfielder. From everything I've seen of him his defensive game is not good enough. Even if it were he'd have to bench Busquets who is only in his mid twenties. Good luck.

Samper should be groomed as Xavi's successor in CM IMO, not DM.

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Post by Donuts Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:25 pm

that's another problem hopefully he changes his mind but lucho also said he sees samper as a dm not a cm.
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Post by windkick Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:45 pm

They thought the same thing of Xavi in his younger days.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:51 pm

He played one season in La Masia.


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Post by Myesyats Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:57 pm

What will be will be. Only time will tell if Samper makes it and which role will he be given. I hope he is managed well because the potential is boozing.

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Post by windkick Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:40 pm

Still crossing my fingers that Alves stays and rotates with Vidal, as oppose to having Montoya/Douglas to rotate with Vidal.

Either way, welcome aboard Aleix. You are one of us now
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Post by The Franchise Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:05 pm

Donuts wrote:I'm just saying that sergi roberto has shown us what he can do and samper really right now is hype.
like how can one say that samper is better.. we haven't seen him at all in a high level.

Lucho doesn't take risks like pep, I don't ever see him playing samper/roberto (unless it's the early copa de rey matches or dead games) over mascherano in the DM position.. didn't we also put rakitic over roberto at one point this season?

a loan would do the youth players better than sticking at the bench
we if had pep i'd say otherwise but we don't.

I can say Samper is way more talented. We havent seen him at a high level? I remember these same words before we signed Neymar..somehow that worked out just fine. Obvious Samper is no Neymar, but he is obviously a talent that needs to start being introduced over players who we all know are going nowhere with the club.

How you think players come up? Its by getting chances and grabbing them with both hands. I can name many players who did that, I am struggling to think of nearly as many players who went on loan and came back to have a great career at that club.

And surely we are not talking about what Enrique wants to do, but what our own opinions are.
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Post by windkick Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:27 pm

There's also that chance we get that guy we are rumored to be going after from Sporting Lisbon. that guy is suppose to be really talented, and he could be the one that ends up rotating with Vidal, as oppose to Douglas/Montoya (should Alves leave)
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Post by The Franchise Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:28 pm

That would be good, other than the first 6 months were we have none of the 3 (Alves, Vidal, Cedric).
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Post by windkick Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:55 pm

Yea that ban is a pain in the arse
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:41 pm

Can Aleix play the pre season friendlies?

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Post by The Franchise Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:19 pm

Yes, he can.
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Post by Myesyats Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:53 pm

Well that's something.

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