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Post by urbaNRoots Tue May 03, 2016 11:29 pm

@M99 wrote:Another one Laughing

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DAE books > show?

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Post by M99 Wed May 04, 2016 12:20 am

I actually really think that the same thing will happen on the books too.

Except Roose won't be anywhere close to hugging Ramsay.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 04, 2016 12:22 am

Show Roose is so much more likeable than Book Roose, though. I won't feel bad at all.
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Post by silver Thu May 05, 2016 8:05 am

@M99 wrote:http://watchersonthewall.com/george-r-r-martins-original-plan-game-thrones/


Daenarys crossing the Narrow Sea in the second book :bow:
Others invading Seven Kingdoms by the third book :bow: :bow:

Arya and Jon Snow love story....??? scratch
Tyrion falling in love with Arya...? scratch :brickwall:
Arya-Jon-Tyrion love triangle!??!?!?? :facepalm:


Spoiler:
"Their passion will continue to torment Jon and Arya throughout the trilogy, until the secret of Jon's true parentage is finally revealed in the last book"

Gee...spoiler alert...

In a way, I wish he kept the story shorter and remove all these filter characters and storylines. Quite clear the main 5 characters that will make it to the end and everyone/everything else is just filler.
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Post by M99 Thu May 05, 2016 10:00 am

ep3:
Spanish spoiler dude saying we might get Kingslayer flashback next episode :bow:
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Post by silver Mon May 09, 2016 10:04 am

Do you think the Tower of Joy scene from the TV show will be the same as for the books? Because I really liked that whole Howland Reed warging theory rather than just 'he got stabbed in the back'.
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Post by zigra Mon May 09, 2016 10:40 am

I expect there's more to it but in general I'd say it's 50-50. It's what I said earlier - you can't draw conclusions from the show because they can change things if they want and we've already seen countless times they do it aswell. Let's not forget they already changed the numbers in the scene and made Dayne a dual wielder.
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Post by M99 Mon May 09, 2016 3:14 pm

I think that huge ass sword Dayne had was supposed to be Dawn.

I think Howland just stabbed Dayne in the back in the books too. ASOIAF fans always look for any answers but the simplest ones. TOJ is one, hardly seen anyone mention before the Dayne just got backstabbed. Seen theories that Howland warged him, told Dayne that he is in love with his sister, told Dayne that his sister is in love with Ned etc. Also the younger, more beautiful queen prohesized to replace Cersei. Seen theories of Sansa, Brienne, Arianne, Arya. Everyone except the most obvious one, Daenerys Laughing
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Post by zigra Mon May 09, 2016 5:42 pm

I think the problem is that Dayne knew how many opponents he had so it's hard to imagine he would expose himself like that. Fighting against groups they always try to surround you so you constantly have to check what happens in your back. Going out like that is a beginners error.

Personally I always pictured a ranged attack from Reed.
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Post by RealGunner Mon May 09, 2016 9:35 pm

Was that shaggydog? think it was fake


Also cleganebowl is happening 100%. They teased it
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Post by M99 Mon May 09, 2016 9:48 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Was that shaggydog? think it was fake


Also cleganebowl is happening 100%. They teased it


Yeah it was. Ramsay's killing Rickon in episode 9, I'm sure of it.
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Post by RealGunner Mon May 09, 2016 9:48 pm

Just read that shaggydog's head could be the Davos' head version from the books. That makes sense


but could also be a fools hope hmm

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Post by silver Tue May 10, 2016 8:19 am

Why wait till episode 9? He should be dead already.
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Post by M99 Wed May 11, 2016 2:27 am

Episode 7 is titled
Spoiler:
The Broken Man

SFangladngadokglasg'vadgeg
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Post by RealGunner Wed May 11, 2016 7:23 am

Spoiler:


where would they introduce meribald?
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Post by urbaNRoots Wed May 11, 2016 8:45 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
Spoiler:


where would they introduce meribald?


Spoiler:
Riverlands, Ian McShane will play him and he'll be a combination of Meribald and Elder Brother, apparently he encounters some Brotherhood without Banners who have gone rogue, which is I guess when he has his speech.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 11, 2016 10:02 pm

http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/

New chapter is out (we knew the general plot line from previous readings). Does this mean he's close to finishing? It's been almost half a year since he missed his "deadline", you would think he would be close to done by now.
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Post by urbaNRoots Wed May 11, 2016 10:04 pm

I read the new chapter earlier today.

Gave me that AFFC/ADWD vibe.
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Post by zigra Wed May 11, 2016 11:17 pm

I think he's close. I'm sure it'll be in the stores in 2016.
Yes I'm sure hmm
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Post by RealGunner Thu May 12, 2016 7:21 am

Winter 2016
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Post by M99 Thu May 12, 2016 8:16 am

March 2017.
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Post by silver Thu May 12, 2016 12:14 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/

New chapter is out (we knew the general plot line from previous readings). Does this mean he's close to finishing? It's been almost half a year since he missed his "deadline", you would think he would be close to done by now.


Arianne / Aegon is one of the few decent storylines left.
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Post by zigra Mon May 16, 2016 3:16 am

So Targs are now immune against fire.

contains only a grrm quote about that:

Granny: Do Targaryens become immune to fire once they "bond" to their dragons?

George_RR_Martin: Granny, thanks for asking that. It gives me a chance to clear up a common misconception. TARGARYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE! The birth of Dany's dragons was unique, magical, wonderous, a miracle. She is called The Unburnt because she walked into the flames and lived. But her brother sure as hell wasn't immune to that molten gold.

Revanshe: So she won't be able to do it again?

George_RR_Martin: Probably not.

At this point I don't even know why I keep doing this to myself hmm
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon May 16, 2016 3:35 am

So far the only targ who is immune to fire in the show is Dany, I'd say Show!Dany is immune to fire.

Honestly I think it's a thing that will only bother book fans because in the show there have been no attempts whatsoever to disproof that Dany is immune to fire. Most people already think that.
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Post by zigra Mon May 16, 2016 11:14 am

Well yeah tbh it wasn't even the actual reason why the scene was terrible, it was just the first thing that came to my mind.
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Post by M99 Mon May 16, 2016 5:01 pm

Yeah show Dany is fire immune. Won't be surprised at all if they retcon Jon to be immune to fire too.

Also this episode further convinced me that the Pink Letter is true in the books. Chronologically ADWD is off and Martin said some chapters in TWOW are actually before the ending chapters of ADWD. Stannis will crush the Freys but Roose is not an idiot, he has a plan and Stannis will die.

I also think that Jon was supposed to go to Hardhome in ADWD but GRRM ran out of time. He wanted the book to end with Jon dying so he cancelled the trip and sped up the Pink Letter.
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