Re: Boxing thread - Part 2

by The Franchise Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:00 am

Garcia has no interest in fighting him, I cant imagine why he would either.

I think if you get knocked out/stopped in a fight (fairly, not like Groves-Froch 1) then that'll be it.

Maidana was calling for a rematch straight away, dont think he will ever get it. Too dangerous.

by LeSwagg James Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:04 am

Mayweather Sr. say's Money and Pacquiao will fight next year, sure buddy rofl

Would anybody here even be excited if they fought now? I wouldn't, I would watch it just because I like boxing.. I sure as hell won't buy it on PPV which I would have 4-5 years ago

by The Franchise Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:27 pm

I dont think I would be excited, but I wouldnt have been 5 years ago either because I dont think Pacquiao actually has a chance to win.

Not even trolling or anything. Manny simply doesnt knock people out at this weight and I dont see him stopping Floyd either because Floyd cant answer back a Manny flurry.

His last KO was vs finished (via Floyd) Hatton almost 6 years ago....his last stoppage a severely weight drained Cotto 5 years ago.

Fight 100% does the distance and I dont see how Manny wins one of those against Floyd.

So I wouldnt be excited but its certainly something I want to see and neither of them have declined to the point where they arent themselves any more.

by El Gunner Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:17 pm

5,6 years ago Pac stood a chance. Not now unfortunately, but I'd still watch it and root for Pac.

by LeSwagg James Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:00 pm

The Franchise wrote:I dont think I would be excited, but I wouldnt have been 5 years ago either because I dont think Pacquiao actually has a chance to win.

Not even trolling or anything. Manny simply doesnt knock people out at this weight and I dont see him stopping Floyd either because Floyd cant answer back a Manny flurry.

His last KO was vs finished (via Floyd) Hatton almost 6 years ago....his last stoppage a severely weight drained Cotto 5 years ago.

Fight 100% does the distance and I dont see how Manny wins one of those against Floyd.

So I wouldnt be excited but its certainly something I want to see and neither of them have declined to the point where they arent themselves any more.

I think Floyd would of have won then, and would win now but back then it would of been a much bigger spectacle... Now they're both on the decline, and Pacquiao got his ass laid out not too long ago also :facepalm:

by RealGunner Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:19 pm

Anthony Joshua ffs Laughing

Finished another match inside 4 minutes lol. 2nd round stoppage by the ref.

He needs to fight better people now. Reputation has been built. Go after Tyson Fury, price or even David Haye

by The Franchise Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:29 pm

LeSwagg James wrote:
The Franchise wrote:I dont think I would be excited, but I wouldnt have been 5 years ago either because I dont think Pacquiao actually has a chance to win.

Not even trolling or anything. Manny simply doesnt knock people out at this weight and I dont see him stopping Floyd either because Floyd cant answer back a Manny flurry.

His last KO was vs finished (via Floyd) Hatton almost 6 years ago....his last stoppage a severely weight drained Cotto 5 years ago.

Fight 100% does the distance and I dont see how Manny wins one of those against Floyd.

So I wouldnt be excited but its certainly something I want to see and neither of them have declined to the point where they arent themselves any more.

I think Floyd would of have won then, and would win now but back then it would of been a much bigger spectacle... Now they're both on the decline, and Pacquiao got his ass laid out not too long ago also

I dont think they are both on such a big decline the spectacle changes much at all tbh.

Yeah, Manny got KO'ed....but he was doing better in that fight than he did in his "prime" vs Marquez 3. Marquez just exposed what was always there, but with an incredible punch.

by Abramovich Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:53 pm

Pac 5-6 years ago would have had a much better chance, but still would have been underdog.

His decline especially in volume and movement suits Floyd perfectly.

Sure this fight will be hyped and fun but I can't see it being very exciting during the fight and inevitably it will be a Floyd win.

by The Franchise Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:59 pm

Yeah, I dont think the fight would be so exciting either.

by El Gunner Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:08 am

Pacquiao should really stop fighting against these scrubs. Had Algieri down about 6 times during the 12 rounds.

Just give us Pac - Money once and for all and then I'm done with boxing.

by El Gunner Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:10 am

Pacquiao unanimous decision. 2 judges 119 - 103, other 120 - 102.

by izzy Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:39 pm

No bump for the Kahn - Alexander fight? hmm

Here's hoping Alexander breaks that glass jaw of that scrub.

All I've been hearing Kahn talk about in the build-up to this fight is his superior hand speed.
What about your suspect footwork?
What about your foam jaw?
What about the fact you are afraid to fight up close?

All things Alexander does well. He has enough power to damage Kahn (like Garcia did), his footwork is MUCH better and (unless the ref allows it) he will be able to back Kahn up and work the body, slowing Kahn down.

Got Alexander winning this by decision. He'll knock down Kahn twice.

by RealGunner Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:44 pm

Khan will ruin him lol. No hype around this one for that reason.

Khan for Unanimous decision.

The only way Khan won't win is if his arrogance come in the way again and he gets cocky. Pure boxing skills, Khan is above Alexander in every single way.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:56 pm

RealGunner wrote:Khan will ruin him lol.

You say that about every Khan fight lol.

by RealGunner Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:49 pm

Fanboy gonna fanboy Molenation

by The Franchise Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:10 pm

Khan aint ruined anyone the boxing community recognises since....ever.

Ill favour him in this, but Alexander could give him trouble I believe. He is a bit weak mentally though and if Khan dominates a few consecutive early rounds I could see a lobsided decision.

by The Franchise Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:21 pm

So here is the story according to Floyd.

5-6 years ago when it is without question from both sides, there was negotiations, Pac declined the random blood and urine test. We know this to be fact (IIRC this was confirmed by Pacs side) and the reason was Pac (or Arum, IDK) rejected was because of the random nature of it. I think most reasonable people come to the conclusion that it probably wasnt Pac on PEDS but his team not accepting Floyd's demands because at that time Pac's team didnt accept the "B side" role in demands, seeing themselves as equal to Floyd.

Some time more recently (before Marquez 4), Floyd offered Pac 40m to fight. Pac (probably Arum) rejected because they didnt want a set number but 50% of everything. Floyd rejected, Floyd gets better PPV numbers/still the A side etc. So, no fight, Floyd wont budge from the 40m offer, Pac (Arum) wont budge from the 50%.

Now fast forward to today, its fairly common knowledge Pac has money problems and they want the fight for Floyd. Pac (Arum) want the 40m Floyd offered previously...Floyd says no, you lost to Marquez, you lost to Bradly, your PPV numbers are even lower..your not getting 40m.

What is being offered is unknown and what happens going forward we dont know.

by izzy Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:25 pm

The money thing is true. Pac did reject it.

He was on first take before his fight with Marquez talking about it. Laughing

Either way, Floyd, we all know they need the money, we know this. Find way to get Pac to go against Arum.

by RealGunner Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:42 am

Interesting.

Looks like both sides had their egos in high motion when both were in their prime.

Didn't know Pac had money problems. Thought he was a politician lol.

Don't see the fight ever happening now. One, it will be shit and Floyd is in miles better shape and condition. Second, it will get the numbers up for sure due to the hype, but Manny will walk in expecting a defeat so he doesn't have the motivation in it. Is he just gonna do it for money? Maybe. But he probably will try fighting others before to have a good chance at winning while making money.

Won't be surprised if he offers Khan a fight since Khan is a money maker.

by RealGunner Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:02 am

Can't believe I waited till 4am ffs

Anyways let's go Khan

by RealGunner Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:31 am

Wow, Khan fighting tactically Laughing

this is new

Round 1 Khan for me

by RealGunner Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:35 am

Round 2 Khan too.

by RealGunner Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:43 am

Round 3 was a bit more even I think. Khan's speed hurting Alexander but he always lands a punch which hurts khan towards the end

Round 4 was even too, probably just edge it to Khan.

This sky sports commentary is horrible. That scottish guy is so biased towards Khan that it makes me feel uncomfortable.

by RealGunner Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:51 am

Round 6 Khan.

60-54 to khan

by RealGunner Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:54 am

Khan is ruining him Laughing

Round 7 Khan

Round 8 Khan

Round 9 Khan

Round 10 Khan

Switched off sky commentary at this point.

by RealGunner Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:16 am

Masterclass by Khan. Fantastic use of tactics and technical skills. So different to how he was 3 years back. So composed in every round without losing his head.

Great win. Never in doubt. LOL at anyone who thought Devon scrubxander could even get close Laughing

Khan dominated every single round bar few which he edged rather than being a clear winner. Would even call it 12-0 lol. Easily one of his best performance of his career. You'll know when you watch it.

Judges score it 120-108, 119-109 and 118-110 for Amir Khan.

You can hate on his arrogance or stupidity but you can never doubt his talent. His speed leaves you in awe every time lol. Insane stuff when he puts his head right.

Now Brook next hopefully.

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