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Post by Myesyats Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:55 am

Harmonica wrote:
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https://twitter.com/Soccer24Zim/status/701825710416068609

Lmao.
I think it should have been retaken.

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Post by free_cat Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:21 am

Harmonica wrote:3 goals, 1 post and one assist from free kicks against Sevilla in 2 games. scratch

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This free kick was something else. Perhaps the best of his career. The accuracy is incredible, it is so adjusted to the top corner that it only touches the side of the net.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:24 pm

free_cat wrote:
Harmonica wrote:3 goals, 1 post and one assist from free kicks against Sevilla in 2 games. scratch

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This free kick was something else. Perhaps the best of his career. The accuracy is incredible, it is so adjusted to the top corner that it only touches the side of the net.

Think the best one was against Atletico in 2011/2012

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Post by free_cat Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:36 pm

Marcus Aurelius wrote:
free_cat wrote:
Harmonica wrote:3 goals, 1 post and one assist from free kicks against Sevilla in 2 games. scratch

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This free kick was something else. Perhaps the best of his career. The accuracy is incredible, it is so adjusted to the top corner that it only touches the side of the net.

Think the best one was against Atletico in 2011/2012


There was no GK in that one... so IMO this one's much better.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:12 pm

Gk or not the technique on the ball was much more impressive.

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Post by Harmonica Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:35 pm

Top 5 most successful dribbles in Uefa Champions League

(Opta, since 2009)

92 Messi 14-15
79 Messi 10-11
57 Messi 09-10
51 Hazard 14-15
44 Messi 11-12

Top 7 most successful dribbles in Spanish League

(Opta, since 2009)

185 Messi 10-11
178 Messi 11-12
175 Messi 14-15
161 Brahimi 13-14
144 Messi 09-10
143 Messi 13-14
122 Messi 12-13

Top 11 most successful dribbles
in major NT tournaments

(Opta, World Cup since 1966, Copa America since 2011 and Euro since 2012)

53 Maradona WC86
47 Jairzinho WC70
46 Messi WC14
43 Messi CA15
43 Kempes WC78
35 Eusebio WC66
34 Messi WC10
34 Donadoni WC94
34 Cruyff WC74
34 Robben WC14
32 Messi CA11


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Post by Harmonica Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:36 pm

Marcus Aurelius wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
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https://twitter.com/Soccer24Zim/status/701825710416068609

Lmao.
I think it should have been retaken.
Of course, the guy enters the area like 2 seconds before the shot.

https://twitter.com/MessiQuote/status/704603538207481856
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Post by free_cat Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:44 pm

Marcus Aurelius wrote:Gk or not the technique on the ball was much more impressive.


It was a great fk, but the shot was soft. Had Tibaut not being catching flies, he would probably have saved it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n0yCQfJJ70
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Post by Kebab Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:57 pm

I think against madrid was his best.it was amazing curve
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Post by Harmonica Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:34 am

Top 5 leagues and Uefa Champions League (Opta, since 2009)

Top 5 most goals

64 Messi 11-12
58 Cronaldo 14-15
56 Cronaldo 11-12
54 Messi 12-13
53 Messi 14-15

Top 5 most assists

23 Messi 14-15
23 Özil 10-11
21 Messi 10-11
21 Messi 11-12
21 Fabregas 14-15

Top 5 most successful dribbles

267 Messi 14-15
264 Messi 10-11
233 Hazard 14-15
222 Messi 11-12
201 Messi 09-10

Top 5 most successful through balls

71 Messi 11-12
52 Xavi 09-10
52 Ronaldinho 09-10
48 Messi 14-15
48 Totti 12-13
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:47 pm

NYT: Bartomeu said last week that Messi told the club he wanted to play deeper, to be a more complete team player. When Sevilla led, 1-0, at the Camp Nou on Sunday, it was Messi who stepped up to tie the score with a trademark free kick. A Barcelona team player.

DMessi incoming :bow:
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Post by El Messico Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:04 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:NYT: Bartomeu said last week that Messi told the club he wanted to play deeper, to be a more complete team player. When Sevilla led, 1-0, at the Camp Nou on Sunday, it was Messi who stepped up to tie the score with a trademark free kick. A Barcelona team player.


The second sentence has nothing to do with either the first sentence or the third sentence. But what else can you expect from NYT covering football?

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Post by Cruijf Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:36 pm

Was about to say that Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:14 pm

Goals Against Period Top 4

Note: Period top 4, finished positions in Argentinian, Brazilian, Dutch, French, German, English, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish national leagues)
Note: Pele's national competitions, Taca Brazil 59-66, Torneio Roberto Gomes Pedrosa 67-70, Brasileiro Serie A 71-74
Note: Includes cup and reagional league goals against period national league top 4
Note: Official games

103 Messi (04-16, 144 games, 0,72 gpg)
96 C.Ronaldo (02-16, 179 games, 0,54 gpg)
62 Pele (59-74, 103 games, 0,60 gpg)
59 G.Müller (65-79, 114 games, 0,52 gpg)

There was less games against big teams back then, but taking ratio into consideration, Messi is the best ever goal scorer, and it's not close.
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:36 pm

Harmonica wrote:Goals Against Period Top 4

Note: Period top 4, finished positions in Argentinian, Brazilian, Dutch, French, German, English, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish national leagues)
Note: Pele's national competitions, Taca Brazil 59-66, Torneio Roberto Gomes Pedrosa 67-70, Brasileiro Serie A 71-74
Note: Includes cup and reagional league goals against period national league top 4
Note: Official games

103 Messi (04-16, 144 games, 0,72 gpg)
96 C.Ronaldo (02-16, 179 games, 0,54 gpg)
62 Pele (59-74, 103 games, 0,60 gpg)
59 G.Müller (65-79, 114 games, 0,52 gpg)

There was less games against big teams back then, but taking ratio into consideration, Messi is the best ever goal scorer, and it's not close.


yet to see him score in a World Cup final

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Post by Collblanc Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:02 pm

reported for trolling. appreciation thread
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Post by futbol Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:55 pm

Getting into form in the right time. He'll ruin every team again this season. :bow: Those 2 months off with injury were a blessing in disguise. He'll be fresh like never before in the business part of the season. :bow: Already can't wait for the Arsenal game. :bow:

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Post by Valkyrja Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:29 pm

Collblanc wrote:reported for trolling. appreciation thread


What trolling ? Laughing I'm just stating some facts
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Post by Lucifer Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:38 pm

I think the finishing has also been better than last year.

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Post by Harmonica Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:44 pm

Correction, one of Pele's hat-tricks actually wasn't against Botafogo from Rio, but another Botafogo, took it away.

Big Team Hat-tricks (against period top 4 (finished position), in Argentinian, Brazilian, Dutch, French, German, English, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish national leagues)

Note: Pele's national competitions, Taca Brazil 59-66, Torneio Roberto Gomes Pedrosa 67-70, Brasileiro Serie A 71-74
Note: Includes cup and reagional league hat-tricks against period top 4
Note: Official games

Messi 9
Real Madrid 3 3 (06-07, 13-14)
Valencia 3 4 (09-10, 11-12)
Malaga 3 3 (11-12)
Atletico Madrid 3 (08-09)
Ajax 3 (13-14)
Arsenal 4 (09-10)

Pele 4
Bahia 3 (61)
Botafogo 3 (63)
Flamengo 3 (64)
Benfica 3 (62)

Puskas 4
Zaragoza 3 (60-61)
Barcelona 3 (63-64)
Benfica 3 (61-62)
Feyenoord 4 (65-66)

Cronaldo 3
Villarreal 3 (10-11)
Malaga 3 (11-12)
Ajax 3 (12-13)

Batistuta 3
Racing Club 3 (91)
Udinese 3 (97-98)
Milan 3 (98-99)

Romario 3
Real Madrid 3 (93-94)
Botafogo 3 (95)
Palmeiras 3 (97)

Eusebio 2
Sporting CP 3 (71-72)
Belenenses 3 (72-73)

Neymar 1
Sao Paolo 3 (12)

Ronaldo 1
Manchester United 3 (02-03)

Gerd Müller 1
FC Köln 3 (75-76)

Di Stefano 1
Valencia 3 (53-54)

Suarez, Platini, Maradona, Cruyff 0
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:00 pm

I'm pretty sure Ronaldo scored a hattrick in 11/12 against a Atletico. Also against Valencia, can't remember exactly the season.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:02 pm

Valkyrja wrote:I'm pretty sure Ronaldo scored a hattrick in 11/12 against a Atletico. Also against Valencia, can't remember exactly the season.
Atletico wasn't Top 4 in 11-12.

Added Van Basten.

Big Team Hat-tricks (against period top 4 (finished position), in Argentinian, Brazilian, Dutch, French, German, English, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish national leagues)

Note: Pele's national competitions, Taca Brazil 59-66, Torneio Roberto Gomes Pedrosa 67-70, Brasileiro Serie A 71-74
Note: Includes cup and reagional league hat-tricks against period top 4
Note: Official games

Messi 9
Real Madrid 3 3 (06-07, 13-14)
Valencia 3 4 (09-10, 11-12)
Malaga 3 3 (11-12)
Atletico Madrid 3 (08-09)
Ajax 3 (13-14)
Arsenal 4 (09-10)

Pele 4
Bahia 3 (61)
Botafogo 3 (63)
Flamengo 3 (64)
Benfica 3 (62)

Puskas 4
Zaragoza 3 (60-61)
Barcelona 3 (63-64)
Benfica 3 (61-62)
Feyenoord 4 (65-66)

Cronaldo 3
Villarreal 3 (10-11)
Malaga 3 (11-12)
Ajax 3 (12-13)

Batistuta 3
Racing Club 3 (91)
Udinese 3 (97-98)
Milan 3 (98-99)

Romario 3
Real Madrid 3 (93-94)
Botafogo 3 (95)
Palmeiras 3 (97)

Eusebio 2
Sporting CP 3 (71-72)
Belenenses 3 (72-73)

Neymar 1
Sao Paolo 3 (12)

Ronaldo 1
Manchester United 3 (02-03)

Van Basten 1
Feyenoord 3 (83-84)

Gerd Müller 1
FC Köln 3 (75-76)

Di Stefano 1
Valencia 3 (53-54)

Suarez, Platini, Maradona, Cruyff 0
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Messi @ 8

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