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Post by Kaladin Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:17 am

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Post by footyfan01 Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:03 am

Gloriana Steinem : Young women are for Bernie as that's where the boys are

The feminist icon is drawing hackles online for comments made Friday on HBO’s “Real Time With Bill Maher“
Feminist icon Gloria Steinem has drawn the wrath of the Twitterverse for suggesting that young women supporting Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign are doing so to gain the attention of men.
“When you’re young, you’re thinking, ‘Where are the boys? The boys are with Bernie,'” Steinem told Bill Maher Friday night on the comic’s HBO show “Real Time.”
Maher leapt right on her comment. “Now if I said that, ‘Yeah, they’re for Bernie because that’s where the boys are,’ you’d slap me,” he said.
- See more at: https://www.thewrap.com/gloria-steinem-slammed-for-suggesting-young-women-support-bernie-sanders-to-chase-boys/#sthash.5s87mtER.dpuf

https://www.thewrap.com/gloria-steinem-slammed-for-suggesting-young-women-support-bernie-sanders-to-chase-boys/

Albright: 'special place in hell' for women who don't support Clinton


Former secretary of state Madeleine Albright introduced Hillary Clinton at an event in New Hampshire on Saturday, telling the crowd and voters in general: “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other!”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/madeleine-albright-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton

Why do they say these stupid things? Is this really gonna help them get young women to vote for Hillary?

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Post by Cruijf Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:23 am

Pathetic :facepalm:
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Post by Pedram Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:50 pm



Laughing

God help the US if one of these guys gets elected.
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Post by Art Morte Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:07 pm

I'm not sure have I said this before, but the quality of the candidates is shocking, imo. The Democrats have just two candidates - neither of which appear as convincing as you'd probably hope - while the Republicans can't even find a candidate who would come across as normal.
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Post by McLewis Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:32 am

Seriously, I really see myself voting 3rd party at this point. Not a single candidate on either side appears truly electable to me at this point:

- Sanders is saying everything every person my age wants to hear without any type of plan of actually going through with those proposals. That and he has no foreign policy experience.

- Clinton should've been the most electable, but just seems so plastic and wooden not mention arrogant. She should've treated that e-mail stuff with better care and has been a gaffe-machine left and right. Her whole campaign reaks of unpreparedness for what Sanders is doing. Her credibility with all key groups is severely shot to pieces.

- Trump is hot mess. Nuff said.

- Marcobot needs his software upgraded. Can't seem to stop spitting the same crap out at events.

- Christie has no credibility and only useful at attacking others. He's short on actual solutions and no one's told him that running 50 states and different from running one. Not to mention Bridge-Gate.

- Kasich seems reasonable enough as he has embraced portions of the ACA as well as cutting taxes to help balance Ohio's budget. Still I do not agree with many of his views socially or politically. He's probably the least of a trainwreck of any of the candidates.

- Cruz is simply not a likable person. He's uniquely hated by several factions on both sides of the spectrum. If you're in that position, it's unlikely you'll be the nominee let alone president. Straight up wackjob. He's certifiable.

- Bush is like Hillary without the controversy. He's just simply bland like vanilla. Nothing exciting about him or his campaign. Doesn't help that he comes from one of the most hated dynasties in American history.

- Carson is just off in his own little world. Such a strange, awkward guy who makes absolutely no sense everytime he talks. I truly believe he's a medical savant. He has no clue how to lead a nation.

I see these candidates and then I remember our last dud was probably Gerald Ford (unfortunately from my adopted home state of Michigan), but then I also remember we had morons like Harding, Hoover, Cleveland, and Andrew Johnson who occupied the Oval Office as well at one point. We're long overdue for a dud at this point as this is weakest field in decades.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:03 am

As expected. Trump wins New Hampshire.

I would honestly not have thought Trump would still be around at actual primaries a few months ago.

What a failure by the Republican establishment.

And to add insult to injury, first Bush's campaign crashes, then Rubio does well in Iowa, so now where MAYBE they could have coalesced around Rubio, Bush is doing slightly better in New Hampshire again and Kasich is also there Laughing
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:00 am

Hopefully this spearheads Kasich into the mainstream, he's the only decent candidate on the Republican side
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:11 am

He is, and that's why he wasn't getting anywhere and won't.

Decent is not what the Republican Party is going for, they have become moron-radicals.

He's also got a few very attackable things on his resumee, like working for Lehman up to the point of their collapse and then collecting bonuses.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:20 am

He was working in a 3 person office in Ohio, I think that's very defensible. It's his social policies that are more concerning, but that's more for the general election.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:48 am

Well obviously he's the only sane person in the Republican race.

On the other hand, who cares about the Republican race. They are not going to win the GE anyway.

McLewis wrote:Seriously, I really see myself voting 3rd party at this point. Not a single candidate on either side appears truly electable to me at this point:

- Sanders is saying everything every person my age wants to hear without any type of plan of actually going through with those proposals. That and he has no foreign policy experience.

- Clinton should've been the most electable, but just seems so plastic and wooden not mention arrogant. She should've treated that e-mail stuff with better care and has been a gaffe-machine left and right. Her whole campaign reaks of unpreparedness for what Sanders is doing. Her credibility with all key groups is severely shot to pieces.



Sanders someone you can vote for without thinking twice tbh.
Better candidate than could be possibly expected on this level.

'Foreign policy experience', what's that supposed to mean? Obama had none either, unless you count a few photo op trips during campaign, carrying along Dick Lugar as if that would mean anything.
As if 'foreign policy experienced' politics actually made a good foreign policy in the past.

The rest of the world would be happy about Sanders, I can guarantee you that.
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Post by CBarca Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:42 am

I don't see Republicans winning the GE with Trump or Cruz, no, probably not. It's...possible but a long shot imo.

Rubio? Definitely possible. Bush? Yeah, definitely. Could see either of those being a reality.

Luckily, Republicans don't seem to be interested in moderates atm Laughing I mean, Sanders isn't either, but he's likable, he's not crazy like Cruz or Trump.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:06 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Well obviously he's the only sane person in the Republican race.

On the other hand, who cares about the Republican race. They are not going to win the GE anyway.

McLewis wrote:Seriously, I really see myself voting 3rd party at this point. Not a single candidate on either side appears truly electable to me at this point:

- Sanders is saying everything every person my age wants to hear without any type of plan of actually going through with those proposals. That and he has no foreign policy experience.

- Clinton should've been the most electable, but just seems so plastic and wooden not mention arrogant. She should've treated that e-mail stuff with better care and has been a gaffe-machine left and right. Her whole campaign reaks of unpreparedness for what Sanders is doing. Her credibility with all key groups is severely shot to pieces.



Sanders someone you can vote for without thinking twice tbh.
Better candidate than could be possibly expected on this level.

'Foreign policy experience', what's that supposed to mean? Obama had none either, unless you count a few photo op trips during campaign, carrying along Dick Lugar as if that would mean anything.
As if 'foreign policy experienced' politics actually made a good foreign policy in the past.

The rest of the world would be happy about Sanders, I can guarantee you that.


The rest of the world was happy with Obama too...until he kept the drones going. Sanders would do the same, and nobody in congress would allow him to get anything done.

Listening to his speech last night it makes you feel good, but it just really isn't realistic. It is solely exists on there being a complete political revolution, and that won't happen. It didnt happen in 08-10, when people didnt come back out because they were jaded(and things kinda started to get a little better), and it won't happen now when things are definitely better than the immediate post-recession life. It simply won't happen.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:21 pm

Betty La Fea wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Well obviously he's the only sane person in the Republican race.

On the other hand, who cares about the Republican race. They are not going to win the GE anyway.

McLewis wrote:Seriously, I really see myself voting 3rd party at this point. Not a single candidate on either side appears truly electable to me at this point:

- Sanders is saying everything every person my age wants to hear without any type of plan of actually going through with those proposals. That and he has no foreign policy experience.

- Clinton should've been the most electable, but just seems so plastic and wooden not mention arrogant. She should've treated that e-mail stuff with better care and has been a gaffe-machine left and right. Her whole campaign reaks of unpreparedness for what Sanders is doing. Her credibility with all key groups is severely shot to pieces.



Sanders someone you can vote for without thinking twice tbh.
Better candidate than could be possibly expected on this level.

'Foreign policy experience', what's that supposed to mean? Obama had none either, unless you count a few photo op trips during campaign, carrying along Dick Lugar as if that would mean anything.
As if 'foreign policy experienced' politics actually made a good foreign policy in the past.

The rest of the world would be happy about Sanders, I can guarantee you that.


The rest of the world was happy with Obama too...until he kept the drones going. Sanders would do the same, and nobody in congress would allow him to get anything done.

Listening to his speech last night it makes you feel good, but it just really isn't realistic. It is solely exists on there being a complete political revolution, and that won't happen. It didnt happen in 08-10, when people didnt come back out because they were jaded(and things kinda started to get a little better), and it won't happen now when things are definitely better than the immediate post-recession life. It simply won't happen.


Oh I don't disagree.
I have no idea to what extent Sanders could successfully govern or implement his changes.

But I think he'd be more principled and headstrong than Obama, no doubt.
Whether that would be more effective, given the gridlocked system etc, the parliament opposition, is another discussion.

Obama was a great candidate, a fantastic candidate, that's why it's a great achievement by the American people that they elected, and reelected him.

But in governance, he was far too much a politician as a president, for his own good.
He should have been more 'ideological', instead of juggling with political capital with regards to everything.
He was constantlcy negotiating, and compromising, with forces that weren't interested in negotiating or compromise, so he ended up on the worse side of the deal perpetually.

I could well imagine Sanders to be different, simply because he's genuinely much more left wing ideological than Obama, who was always mixing policy with careerism.
I think that's a better way to deal with the 'gridlock' than playing along to its logic.
The notion of and insistence on 'bipartisan consensus', in this current situation, is basically just the lowest common denominator of beltway self-congratulation and elitism, lobby-dominated politics, and old boys club.

There's simply no reason not to vote for Sanders if you believe in his issues.

That being said, Hillary got this.
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Post by footyfan01 Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:56 pm

McLewis wrote:Seriously, I really see myself voting 3rd party at this point. Not a single candidate on either side appears truly electable to me at this point:

- Sanders is saying everything every person my age wants to hear without any type of plan of actually going through with those proposals. That and he has no foreign policy experience.

- Clinton should've been the most electable, but just seems so plastic and wooden not mention arrogant. She should've treated that e-mail stuff with better care and has been a gaffe-machine left and right. Her whole campaign reaks of unpreparedness for what Sanders is doing. Her credibility with all key groups is severely shot to pieces.

- Trump is hot mess. Nuff said.

- Marcobot needs his software upgraded. Can't seem to stop spitting the same crap out at events.

- Christie has no credibility and only useful at attacking others. He's short on actual solutions and no one's told him that running 50 states and different from running one. Not to mention Bridge-Gate.

- Kasich seems reasonable enough as he has embraced portions of the ACA as well as cutting taxes to help balance Ohio's budget. Still I do not agree with many of his views socially or politically. He's probably the least of a trainwreck of any of the candidates.

- Cruz is simply not a likable person. He's uniquely hated by several factions on both sides of the spectrum. If you're in that position, it's unlikely you'll be the nominee let alone president. Straight up wackjob. He's certifiable.

- Bush is like Hillary without the controversy. He's just simply bland like vanilla. Nothing exciting about him or his campaign. Doesn't help that he comes from one of the most hated dynasties in American history.

- Carson is just off in his own little world. Such a strange, awkward guy who makes absolutely no sense everytime he talks. I truly believe he's a medical savant. He has no clue how to lead a nation.

I see these candidates and then I remember our last dud was probably Gerald Ford (unfortunately from my adopted home state of Michigan), but then I also remember we had morons like Harding, Hoover, Cleveland, and Andrew Johnson who occupied the Oval Office as well at one point.  We're long overdue for a dud at this point as this is weakest field in decades.


Incredibly detailed plan for Sanders about how he will pay for Healthcare

https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/

HOW MUCH WILL IT COST?
This plan has been estimated to cost $1.38 trillion per year.

THE PLAN WOULD BE FULLY PAID FOR BY:
A 6.2 percent income-based health care premium paid by employers.
Revenue raised: $630 billion per year.
A 2.2 percent income-based premium paid by households.
Revenue raised: $210 billion per year.This year, a family of four taking the standard deduction can have income up to $28,800 and not pay this tax under this plan.
A family of four making $50,000 a year taking the standard deduction would only pay $466 this year.

Progressive income tax rates.
Revenue raised: $110 billion a year.Under this plan the marginal income tax rate would be:
37 percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
43 percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
48 percent on income between $2 million and $10 million. (In 2013, only 113,000 households, the top 0.08 percent of taxpayers, had income between $2 million and $10 million.)
52 percent on income above $10 million. (In 2013, only 13,000 households, just 0.01 percent of taxpayers, had income exceeding $10 million.)
Taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work.
Revenue raised: $92 billion per year.Warren Buffett, the second wealthiest American in the country, has said that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. The reason is that he receives most of his income from capital gains and dividends, which are taxed at a much lower rate than income from work. This plan will end the special tax break for capital gains and dividends on household income above $250,000.
Limit tax deductions for rich.
Revenue raised: $15 billion per yearUnder Bernie’s plan, households making over $250,000 would no longer be able to save more than 28 cents in taxes from every dollar in tax deductions. This limit would replace more complicated and less effective limits on tax breaks for the rich including the AMT, the personal exemption phase-out and the limit on itemized deductions.
The Responsible Estate Tax.
Revenue raised: $21 billion per year.This provision would tax the estates of the wealthiest 0.3 percent (three-tenths of 1 percent) of Americans who inherit over $3.5 million at progressive rates and close loopholes in the estate tax.
Savings from health tax expenditures.
Revenue raised: $310 billion per year.Several tax breaks that subsidize health care (health-related “tax expenditures”) would become obsolete and disappear under a single-payer health care system, saving $310 billion per year.
Most importantly, health care provided by employers is compensation that is not subject to payroll taxes or income taxes under current law. This is a significant tax break that would effectively disappear under this plan because all Americans would receive health care through the new single-payer program instead of employer-based health care.

Also the Wall Street Derivative Market is like 800-900 trillion so a small speculation tax can not only pay for Free College(70-80 Billion odd maybe?) but could bring in much more extra money to routed to infra.

Also He plans on removing the taxable limit of 250k$ on Social Security (which allows Billionaire to pay much less as a %) which will expand Social Security

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Post by McLewis Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:23 am

Of course he has a plan for healthcare, that's low hanging fruit.

What's his plan for making college tuition free? For reeling in the big banks? For reforming the broken justice system? Fixing the immigration system?

That first one is especially outlandish given the state of the college admissions and financial aid system in this country.


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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:38 am

@McLewis, Disagree with the fact that Bernie has no plan on implementing his views. Please explain that point of view. You're wrong imo
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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:42 am

Betty La Fea wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Well obviously he's the only sane person in the Republican race.

On the other hand, who cares about the Republican race. They are not going to win the GE anyway.

McLewis wrote:Seriously, I really see myself voting 3rd party at this point. Not a single candidate on either side appears truly electable to me at this point:

- Sanders is saying everything every person my age wants to hear without any type of plan of actually going through with those proposals. That and he has no foreign policy experience.

- Clinton should've been the most electable, but just seems so plastic and wooden not mention arrogant. She should've treated that e-mail stuff with better care and has been a gaffe-machine left and right. Her whole campaign reaks of unpreparedness for what Sanders is doing. Her credibility with all key groups is severely shot to pieces.



Sanders someone you can vote for without thinking twice tbh.
Better candidate than could be possibly expected on this level.

'Foreign policy experience', what's that supposed to mean? Obama had none either, unless you count a few photo op trips during campaign, carrying along Dick Lugar as if that would mean anything.
As if 'foreign policy experienced' politics actually made a good foreign policy in the past.

The rest of the world would be happy about Sanders, I can guarantee you that.


The rest of the world was happy with Obama too...until he kept the drones going. Sanders would do the same, and nobody in congress would allow him to get anything done.

Listening to his speech last night it makes you feel good, but it just really isn't realistic. It is solely exists on there being a complete political revolution, and that won't happen. It didnt happen in 08-10, when people didnt come back out because they were jaded(and things kinda started to get a little better), and it won't happen now when things are definitely better than the immediate post-recession life. It simply won't happen.


Yes it will. People are becoming more and more liberalized. for their own good. People are actually educating themselves and not believing in bullshit conservative crap

The tea baggers aka the GOP is the one who got us into this bullshit into the middle east. Obama chooses the lesser evil and uses drones instead of actual American lives.
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Post by titosantill Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:52 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Betty La Fea wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Well obviously he's the only sane person in the Republican race.

On the other hand, who cares about the Republican race. They are not going to win the GE anyway.



Sanders someone you can vote for without thinking twice tbh.
Better candidate than could be possibly expected on this level.

'Foreign policy experience', what's that supposed to mean? Obama had none either, unless you count a few photo op trips during campaign, carrying along Dick Lugar as if that would mean anything.
As if 'foreign policy experienced' politics actually made a good foreign policy in the past.

The rest of the world would be happy about Sanders, I can guarantee you that.


The rest of the world was happy with Obama too...until he kept the drones going. Sanders would do the same, and nobody in congress would allow him to get anything done.

Listening to his speech last night it makes you feel good, but it just really isn't realistic. It is solely exists on there being a complete political revolution, and that won't happen. It didnt happen in 08-10, when people didnt come back out because they were jaded(and things kinda started to get a little better), and it won't happen now when things are definitely better than the immediate post-recession life. It simply won't happen.


Oh I don't disagree.
I have no idea to what extent Sanders could successfully govern or implement his changes.

But I think he'd be more principled and headstrong than Obama, no doubt.
Whether that would be more effective, given the gridlocked system etc, the parliament opposition, is another discussion.

Obama was a great candidate, a fantastic candidate, that's why it's a great achievement by the American people that they elected, and reelected him.

But in governance, he was far too much a politician as a president, for his own good.
He should have been more 'ideological', instead of juggling with political capital with regards to everything.
He was constantlcy negotiating, and compromising, with forces that weren't interested in negotiating or compromise, so he ended up on the worse side of the deal perpetually.

I could well imagine Sanders to be different, simply because he's genuinely much more left wing ideological than Obama, who was always mixing policy with careerism.
I think that's a better way to deal with the 'gridlock' than playing along to its logic.
The notion of and insistence on 'bipartisan consensus', in this current situation, is basically just the lowest common denominator of beltway self-congratulation and elitism, lobby-dominated politics, and old boys club.

There's simply no reason not to vote for Sanders if you believe in his issues.

That being said, Hillary got this.


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Post by Guest Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:39 pm

FennecFox7 wrote:
Betty La Fea wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Well obviously he's the only sane person in the Republican race.

On the other hand, who cares about the Republican race. They are not going to win the GE anyway.



Sanders someone you can vote for without thinking twice tbh.
Better candidate than could be possibly expected on this level.

'Foreign policy experience', what's that supposed to mean? Obama had none either, unless you count a few photo op trips during campaign, carrying along Dick Lugar as if that would mean anything.
As if 'foreign policy experienced' politics actually made a good foreign policy in the past.

The rest of the world would be happy about Sanders, I can guarantee you that.


The rest of the world was happy with Obama too...until he kept the drones going. Sanders would do the same, and nobody in congress would allow him to get anything done.

Listening to his speech last night it makes you feel good, but it just really isn't realistic. It is solely exists on there being a complete political revolution, and that won't happen. It didnt happen in 08-10, when people didnt come back out because they were jaded(and things kinda started to get a little better), and it won't happen now when things are definitely better than the immediate post-recession life. It simply won't happen.


Yes it will. People are becoming more and more liberalized. for their own good. People are actually educating themselves and not believing in bullshit conservative crap

The tea baggers aka the GOP is the one who got us into this bullshit into the middle east. Obama chooses the lesser evil and uses drones instead of actual American lives.


Fox it really must feel that way, but as you get older you will see it simply is not the case. Sanders wins this year, and then what in 2018? People are not going to come out in a midterm and replace EVERYBODY so he can finally get things done. He will have to move significantly towards the center to get anything done with congress, and guess what happens then. He will have become the Obama he criticized and felt needed to be primaried in 2012. I was where you were in 2008. I was 19-ish, and full on the change back wagon like everybody else. The big difference back then was this country was in DEEP TROUBLE at that point. The recession had destroyed the retirement/savings of a lot of people, and jobs were decimated to a point where they still have not came back to pre recession levels. People came out behind a candidate, and it was pretty amazing to see. Two years later in 2010 things got slightly better for people, and nobody really came out. Obama played political ball, and got us the ACA. It was the hand he was dealt. Its 2016, and while things are not in the 2006-ish levels in terms of boom, things have got massively better than what it was in 08. People are becoming more liberally socially, and Hillary is moving to that point to represent the people. She also has a democrat base to get blue dogs on her team to get things done. Bernie Sanders wouldnt have this support, much less to do what he says. The "FREE STUFF" thing feels good. Hell, I am a grown man and it sounds good hearing, but thats simply not the way things will work with this congress in this country.


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Post by FennecFox7 Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:06 pm

It's only been 8 years though, relax. You're still on the young side at your late 20's believe it or not.

the key here is to keep educating voters.

Even if Hilary wins it'll be a success, although Bernie is a much better candidate.

Eventually the republican scrubs and incumbents in congress will get voted out by more liberal candidates and things WILL get done. Key here is to keep faith. It's already happening. Even the most redneck and backwards state, texas, is experiencing change.

IF the minorities would get off their asses for once and vote the conservatives would be history.
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:42 pm

FennecFox7 wrote:It's only been 8 years though, relax. You're still on the young side at your late 20's believe it or not.

the key here is to keep educating voters.

Even if Hilary wins it'll be a success, although Bernie is a much better candidate.

Eventually the republican scrubs and incumbents in congress will get voted out by more liberal candidates and things WILL get done. Key here is to keep faith. It's already happening. Even the most redneck and backwards state, texas, is experiencing change.

IF the minorities would get off their asses for once and vote the conservatives would be history.


You are speaking like someone living in a college town. The average American, living in middle of nowhere Idaho, working a blue collar job with their high school education, is NOT becoming more liberal. He views himself as a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, and he resents any government giving people things. That is the vast majority of this country, and they are a base that will always keep a sizable religious GOP person in the senate and house. These people won't magically wake up one day, and vote in somebody who wants to create 15$ hour minimum wage. Why would they when most took years to make it to that point(if they are at that point at all?)

Texas will never be the most backward state with the likes of Mississippi around. Hell, you guys have the oil hub in houston. Mississippi is having what few jobs they have sent down to mexico for cheaper labor.

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Post by McLewis Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:32 pm

FennecFox7 wrote:@McLewis, Disagree with the fact that Bernie has no plan on implementing his views. Please explain that point of view. You're wrong imo


See my second post on the subject, please.

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Post by Guest Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:33 am

Civil rights legend John Lewis on Bernie Sanders during the civil rights movement Friday:


Laughing Laughing

Talk about ending any chance he had to get anything in the south. John Lewis is a god down here, and rightfully so.

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Post by footyfan01 Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:27 am

Clinton is loosing the Black Vote - 1 after the other big Black personalities are coming out in support of Sanders

This is Ben Jealous, ex-head of NAACP

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/jealous-draws-distinctions-in-democratic-race-620769347989

Talks about Clinton's horrible record & how Sanders is the best candidate

The Black firewall is showing cracks as one other Black persons are supporting Sanders


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Post by footyfan01 Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:33 am



This is Erica Garner, used to be a Clinton supporter & switched now

Bamberg, Lawyer of Walter Scott Family switches to bernie from Clinton

"We live in the greatest country on earth…we put man on the moon, don’t tell me that we cannot provide Americans the right, the right to health care because that right is a matter of life and death for many Americans," Bamberg said. He added Sanders was also capable of accomplishing free higher education and creating a change in the political system.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/justin-bamberg-endorses-bernie-sanders-218184#ixzz3zw8ZfJge


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