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Post by Thimmy Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:21 pm

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Thimmy wrote:Is it only 181cm? hmm I wonder how much the sami people are affecting that average. They all seem to be in the 155-170cm range.


Well I'm 190, and in my class of 9 men, there are 6 of 190 and above and 3 at around 170 hmm Sami people? what are those


Yeah, I'm only 184. I have 5 close childhood friends who are all 190-200cm.

Haha.. the sami people... I don't want to say anything offensive about them, but they're the indigenous people who live up in the far northern parts of Sweden and Norway. They have their own language, but they have to learn Swedish or Norwegian in school. No one knows exactly how they arrived there, but I've read that they most likely emigrated from Asia several centuries ago. They're typically short, have black hair and brown eyes. I'm just gonna stop there, because I might say something that may sound offensive or ignorant, although I don't mean to offend anyone.

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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:50 am

5'8 1/2 is the average for an algerian guy. In the us, 5'9 is the real average, not 5'10. So his height is fine. I was 5'8 in 10th grade.

Besides.. do you really find strong people at 16? Physical quality is not very common at his age. as long as hes fit, hes fine
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:15 am

His position requires more intelligence than physical strength. Of course, the latter is extremely important as well, but intelligence and great passing and vision come first.

As for Martin, I honestly have never seen him play before. He has plenty of time to develop in Castilla under the guidance of Zidane, all while being constantly surrounded by very talented youngsters like Burgui, Medran, Llorente, Abner. He has everything he needs to develop and grow. It's now up to him to prove his worth.
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Post by TheVoiceOfTheVoiceless Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:19 pm

Odegaard has been included in the Champions League squad. Should he play against Schalke in the last 16, he'll be the youngest player in the history of the competition. He would be surpassing the record held by Celsetine Babayaro who made his debut at 16 years & 87 days.
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Post by Thimmy Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:01 pm

If we dominate them comfortably and score a few early goals, I don't see why not. Personally, I would've shat my pants thrice if I'd been given a chance to debut in the Champions League after recently turning 16.
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Post by TheVoiceOfTheVoiceless Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:54 am



Odegaard scores his first goal for Castilla. Took just 8min, assist by RDT.
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Post by Thimmy Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:35 pm

He seems to be adapting nicely, already Smile
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Post by Doc Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:37 am

Honestly, I've never seen him play bar watching highlights but I would like to think he'll take Segunda level league play fairly well considering he was playing (as we down in these parts like to call it) "big man football". One can discredit the Norwegian league to the heavens but it is a professional football league with grown men making a living (of some sort).
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Post by Thimmy Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:14 am

Doc wrote:Honestly, I've never seen him play bar watching highlights but I would like to think he'll take Segunda level league play fairly well considering he was playing (as we down in these parts like to call it) "big man football". One can discredit the Norwegian league to the heavens but it is a professional football league with grown men making a living (of some sort).


The Norwegian league is a very physical league, where defenders are used to handling strong and fast attacking players. One the other hand, technically gifted players have, for a long time, been few and far between here. That seems to be changing with our up and coming generation.

I imagined that Ødegaard would perhaps struggle a little bit more against defenders that are shorter, have more mobility, and are more used to handling technically brilliant players, but that doesn't seem to be the case. It makes me wonder if him being used to a significantly more physical league is proving to be an advantage for him.
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Post by Valkyrja Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:52 am

Any updates on him ? How's he been doing ?
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:00 pm

He was not present when we beat Las Palmas 5-1 and was an unused substitute when we beat Conquense 2-0 away. Enzo Zidane came in ahead of him and was not subbed in when we needed a goal

We only have 6 games left to get into the play off positions. There is no time to please the president. If Zidane would have this much guts to bench the president's favourites if they underperformed for the first team then I am all for having him as our headcoach
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Post by MaraVilla Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:31 pm

any truth to this hmm

*Martin Ødegaard  has refused to train with the reserves and only joins in with training sessions on the eve of the team’s games.

Also is he really on something crazy like 80k/week Shocked


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Post by Freeza Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:32 pm

He has a clause to train with the first team. Why give him the clause, if you don't want him to train with them?
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:18 pm

He can do both no??

Also if he had a brain he'd know he would have no chance of getting more than 20 appearance for the first team in the next 4-5 seasons. Why train with the first team if he knows that fact?? In fact why sign with us at all?? There are other clubs willing to give youngsters chances we aren't one of them
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Post by Freeza Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:23 pm

What's the source anyways? I don't know why this is being blown out of proportion.

This guy is 16 already, and gets 99% of all football fans against him despite not knowing the whole story.

Also I highly doubt it's about the attitude. I think Zidane is just trying to give him an opportunity to teach him to train with the second team to get better chemistry.
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Post by Thimmy Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:07 pm

Freeza wrote:What's the source anyways? I don't know why this is being blown out of proportion.

This guy is 16 already, and gets 99% of all football fans against him despite not knowing the whole story.

Also I highly doubt it's about the attitude. I think Zidane is just trying to give him an opportunity to teach him to train with the second team to get better chemistry.


This is exactly what I was thinking. It's getting blown out of proportion, because impressionable people are more likely to be interested in it, the more controversial it sounds. It's not exactly a new thing in journalism, to be fair.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:06 am

You give him the clause because the clause is meaningless...  just like signing a 5 year extension doesn't mean that the player can't ask to be sold and force a sale after 1 year or anytime before.

Football is like that.

Odegaard is crap... i watch Castilla all the time and that's just a hard cold fact.   He's the worst midfield on the pitch when he plays and isn't even a top 6-7 player on Castilla.  The fact that he initially benched much better players was crap... now you want him to train with the first team over a more deserving player?  

Absolute horshit.  He's nobody and will remain nobody if he doesn't fight and DESERVE his role as opposed to waiting for handouts.

The only controversy is how dumb Odegaard and his father are.  I can understand a 16 yo kid being an idiot... but his father?
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Post by Magricos Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:19 am

Played well vs Sweden created a few chances during the match

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Post by titosantill Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:35 pm

does anyone know what formation Norway played during the match? the video looks good, but i'll have to find time to actually watch him play, i get wary of these videos...i remember sergio canales and nuri sahin also having good games and clips (sahin was actually good in my opinion). to be fair to martin, starting for his country at 16 is quite impressive, not many coaches will take that risk unless you're good. Now, another question for those who follow the Norwegian national team, who has martin replaced in the line up or rather who are the other attacking midfielders on the team? and is martin really better than them?
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:32 pm

Ibra: "In order to become a man, Martin needs to get away from his father." interesting comment lol.
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Post by Freeza Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:47 pm

sportsczy wrote:Ibra: "In order to become a man, Martin needs to get away from his father." interesting comment lol.


Ignorant comment also. He's freaking 16 at the moment, in a foreign country.

Ibra was 20 before he moved from Malmö. Zlatan saying someone should get rid of their father, just because he has a bad relationship is none of his business.

Ødegaard also doesn't give a shit about Zlatan, which he shouldn't. No idea why he'd say such a thing. Every relationship with parents are different for each individual.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:43 pm

Oh i don't know... plenty of examples where kids are being mismanaged by their father at a very young age. The smart ones break it off and get support from another relative. I'm sure Odegaard has a mother, aunts, uncles, etc.

Just looking at how badly his father is mismanaging the relationship with Madrid, he should at least fire him as his agent and get a proper one to handle things.
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Post by Freeza Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:52 pm

sportsczy wrote:Oh i don't know...  plenty of examples where kids are being mismanaged by their father at a very young age.  The smart ones break it off and get support from another relative.  I'm sure Odegaard has a mother, aunts, uncles, etc.

Just looking at how badly his father is mismanaging the relationship with Madrid, he should at least fire him as his agent and get a proper one to handle things.


Just as many examples of actual agents mismanaging. If Ødegaard feels safe with his father, as is the case for a lot of us in Scandinavia, he should keep him. People underestimate how young 16 is mentally, and you need your family at that point. Not everyone is Ronaldo in mental strength being away from home.

I for one couldn't have made it to where I am at almost 22 without support of my parents at that age, if I had taken his journey. People just find anything to criticize Ødegaard on, getting tiresome.

"He needs to become a man" How does that even make sense, when he's 16 freaking years old Laughing

Zlatan also continued to praise Ødegaard's ability and game, so it just seems like he wants to put himself in the media if anything or the press wanting to write a story of it.
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Post by titosantill Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:06 am

he's 16, not even of legal age to vote or drink in most countries, his parents should have a role in his life at this stage. as time goes on he can break away (if it is the right thing to do), for now, nothing wrong with it. it was a foolish comment by ibra, its best the kid is with someone who has his best interests at heart, and that's probably his parents....yes his dad will probably try to enrich his own pockets in the process but that happens with every agent regardless. he should focus more on crawling before walking and not listen to ibra....besides there are many adults in footy still managed by their parents, and they're doing fine
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Post by Master_Goal Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:02 pm

Hi everybody.
I've never seen so much football performance in a so young player. He has recently been 16. The most impressive of him is his intelligence at time to to always choose the best option for every play during the match, usually improving the plays. He is tremendous in that, seeming an experienced player. The best position for him would be right mildfielder.
If he is respected by injuries, surely he is going to domain world football during the next decade 2020-2030.
Real Madrid team has done a very good investment signing Martin Ødegaard, gaining the war to all the biggest teams of Europe.
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