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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:08 pm

Putting Rashford and Januzaj with Harry Kane is like putting J and J security with Glenn Jacobs Kane tbh.

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Post by Firenze Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:09 pm

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Post by Unique Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:35 pm

Firenze wrote:can already hear Ed Woodward opening up the club checkbook in the distance

can't wait, then we'll have the future of England spearheading our attack

Rashford Kane Januzaj

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is there anyone you are not going to sign this summer rofl
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Post by Firenze Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:38 pm

scrubs from the bottom half of the PL

wouldn't want to encroach on your club's territory
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Post by Unique Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:25 pm

Firenze wrote:scrubs from the bottom half of the PL

wouldn't want to encroach on your club's territory
bit late for that. rofl
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:06 pm

First player to score 20+ goals in 3 consecutive seasons since Henry :bow:
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Post by Unique Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:58 pm

Easy the best striker in england
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:06 pm

Unique wrote:Easy the best striker in england


Maybe the best English striker.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:08 pm

Nah he's right.

Lukaku doesn't have anywhere near the link up or intelligence off the ball, Aguero has been Pep'd and Costa does his usual look amazing for half a season and disappear for the other half.

Who else is there lol.
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Post by McAgger Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:12 pm

Yeah as of this season Kane is the best CF in the league.

This season was Aguero's first season of his downfall. Fraudiola got his hands on the poor guy.

Lukaku rofl
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:12 pm

Both Lukaku and Costa are better.

When was even the last time Kane scored against a big team? I'm a big fan but Kane still has to prove himself against better teams where he usually disappears even though he plays for the 2nd best team in the league.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:15 pm

Lukaku still has the same problems he always had, his movement off the ball is trash and so is his link up play.

It's why he's still at Everton, Spurs would be a significantly worse team with him instead of Kane that should be obvious. When you get to a certain level, how you help the team off the ball is more important than on it and Lukaku is nowhere near Kane here.

Costa at his best might be better but he goes too many long periods of meh to go with the great for me to care.
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Post by McAgger Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:17 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Both Lukaku and Costa are better.

When was even the last time Kane scored against a big team? I'm a big fan but Kane still has to prove himself against better teams where he usually disappears even though he plays for the 2nd best team in the league.


He scored against Arsenal this season.

He also usually scores against Chelsea and Liverpool often.

Last season he scored 6 in 8 games against Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea/City

In 2014-15 he scored 5 in 5 against Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea/City
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:18 pm

As for Kane's record in big games, i'd rather look at Spurs record in big games tbh as he does a great job of opening space for the likes of Alli to excell in those games.

It's a team game after all and Spurs don't exactly struggle in these games, it's not like any other striker has a stellar big game record anyway.

People only want to shit on him because he's English and wasn't suppose to be the next best thing, i can guarantee if he was a foreign player he'd be hyped a lot more on here.
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Post by Firenze Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:20 pm

Son > Kane
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Post by McAgger Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:20 pm

The dude has proven himself for 3 seasons now. He's an elite CF in world footballer. He's individually proven himself in big games even though his club are perennial big game chokers.

I used to not buy the hype in his first season but I've been long persuaded. 3 seasons of this caliber performance is not some fluke.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:23 pm

You must not have watched a lot of Everton games if you think Lukaku hasn't changed at all. This season his link-up play and hold up has improved tremenduously. Ask any Everton. The reason why he hasn't moved yet is that the teams that can pay his high fee don't need a striker. I think that will change this summer.

I don't think Spurs would be significantly worse without Kane when they have been doing fine with Son leading the line.

I think Kane can become better than both under Pochettino but I also have to wonder what Lukaku would look like in a better team than Everton, then I can say for sure which one is better. Diego Costa imo is not debatable at all, he's just better.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:23 pm

Mole has seen 0 PL games since like 2013

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:26 pm

Son performing under short space of time means absolutely nothing, short term replacements perform when a player is out all the time.

But when those players actually get sold and they are asked to actually do that job full time they fail miserably, absolutely delusional if you think Son could do the job over a full season.

As McAgger says he's scored 20+ 3 seasons in a row and makes the midfielders around him better, unreal the amount of disrespect he gets.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:32 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Son performing under short space of time means absolutely nothing, short term replacements perform when a player is out all the time.

But when those players actually get sold and they are asked to actually do that job full time they fail miserably, absolutely delusional if you think Son could do the job over a full season.

As McAgger says he's scored 20+ 3 seasons in a row and makes the midfielders around him better, unreal the amount of disrespect he gets.


Is it really disrespectful to say he isn't the best striker in the league when Lukaku and Costa have been just as good?

As I said I'm a fan and he is a complete striker, he just isn't better than Lukaku and Costa yet.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:41 pm

Yes because people on this forum have been trying to deflect praise for him for 3 years now. They are not better btw, Lukaku for the reasons i explained and Costa because he has 4 goals in 4 months. You said yourself that he has a poor big game record and McAgger proved that wrong and so on.

If Lukaku was on Spurs doing the same thing i guarantee people would be hyping him for a move to Madrid or Bayern.

It's borderline racism.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:44 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yes because people on this forum have been trying to deflect praise for him for 3 years now. They are not better btw, Lukaku for the reasons i explained and Costa because he has 4 goals in 4 months. You said yourself that he has a poor big game record and McAgger proved that wrong and so on.

If Lukaku was on Spurs doing the same thing i guarantee people would be hyping him for a move to Madrid or Bayern.

It's borderline racism.


Agreed

If Kane was black and called Yaya Kaneogo he would be rated a lot higher imo
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Post by Firenze Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:57 pm

RealGunner wrote:Mole has seen 0 PL games since like 2013



Seriously, you're entitled to you own opinions mole but by your own admission you haven't watched a PL game in YEARS ffs. You probably have no idea who the phenom Marcus Rashford is for example.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:59 pm

Despite all that i know i'm right tbh.

After watching football for 20+ years non stop you develop a telepathic understanding of everything which means you don't need to watch imo.
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Post by CBarca Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:06 pm

Did people bring up Kane's record in big games? Lmao

He's well known for stepping up in big games and his record against London clubs is something like 18 goals in 21 games or something Laughing

I don't understand Urban here. If Kane isn't the best striker in the EPL right now, what exactly does he have to do to be? He's the first player since Thierry Henry to hit 20 PL goals in three straight seasons, if Costa or Lukaku were better, they would have done this rofl

He's done this in a season where he's missed probably at least 33% of the season so far due to injury. Lukaku is having the season of his life and he's scoring a goal per 117 minutes. Kane is doing it at a clip of a goal per 100 minutes and it's not like the entire team is built around Kane getting the goals like Everton is.

His link up play isn't to be laughed at and is a big reason why Eriksen and Dele are able to get as many goals as they do. His work rate has always been top notch, and he's a multi-faceted striker. He can hit it from outside the box, he can score with either foot (Lukaku, lmao, at least it's gotten better for him), he can hold off any CB, he makes smart runs off the ball, he can head the ball, he's not a donkey on the ball and he can pass.

Kane isn't just the best EPL striker, he's been the best the last two years and one could argue the last three if they wanted. Nobody else can match his output and ability except for Yaya Sanogo, and that's a different argument altogether, because even when Sanogo has been thriving it's not like Arsenal have been.

Outta here with this poverty opinion
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:08 pm

CB is right tbh.
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