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Post by Art Morte Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:44 pm

The Black Sheep wrote:Maybe not to you, Art. But not everyone is a fan, so open that mind up just a little bit. Banter, trolling, whatever you want to call it - I know some people weren't big fans. Again I can't speak for the majority, but neither can you.


Trolling and banter aren't quite the same to me, I think there's very very little actual trolling on here nowadays. But banter and all sorts of tongue-in-cheek posting is encouraged by a) low activity, as serious, lengthy posts may not feel worth it, and b) the fact that pretty much everyone here "knows" each other really well by now.

Maybe also: c) club sections tend to be where people talk more seriously about their club. But we don't have enough active members to keep the club sections alive, apart from a couple.

For me, activity is the only problem here.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:46 pm

Agreed. I caught myself a few posts ago and realized trolling is the word I was looking for.

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Post by El Gunner Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:15 pm

Funny how none of the admins/mods are joining in on this discussion.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:23 pm

@El Gunner wrote:Funny how none of the admins/mods are joining in on this discussion.


In fairness only Red and RG are active posters of the admins and i know for a fact both of them are busy.

Also what is there to say? we all know the problems, it's repeated ground at this point.
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Post by M99 Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:35 pm

The situation is simple. Ratio of posters leaving is much higher than new active posters joining.

Posters leave in EVERY forum. Honestly GL is a rare case where we have posters staying for five years and more. The only difference is in other forums new posters actually join and stay active.

It is clear that this forum will never ever be advertised or marketed. Maybe its because too much effort required. I have accepted this. We all have to accept that this place will soon be dead.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:40 pm

Yep, although i don't think it will be soon. Depends what your definition of soon is i suppose.
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Post by rwo power Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:10 am

@El Gunner wrote:Funny how none of the admins/mods are joining in on this discussion.
Well, what shall I say? I'm always posting stuff in outside topics to add some variety, but obviously no one is interested in such, so it is not as if I haven't noticed anything ^^
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Post by Art Morte Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:56 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yep, although i don't think it will be soon. Depends what your definition of soon is i suppose.


Depends also on your definition of 'dead', some people from highly active forums would take a look at this place and define it as 'dead' already.

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Post by El Gunner Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:03 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@El Gunner wrote:Funny how none of the admins/mods are joining in on this discussion.


In fairness only Red and RG are active posters of the admins and i know for a fact both of them are busy.

Also what is there to say? we all know the problems, it's repeated ground at this point.


@El Gunner wrote:If we're serious about growing again then we definitely need new blood, and then we as a group will have to all come together in a thread and discuss this very seriously, not just leave it hanging in the air.

It starts at the top.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:09 am

@Art Morte wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yep, although i don't think it will be soon. Depends what your definition of soon is i suppose.


Depends also on your definition of 'dead', some people from highly active forums would take a look at this place and define it as 'dead' already.



True.

I wouldn't define the general section and hub sections as dead personally, there is still active threads every day.

To me dead is posting on a subject and coming back the next day and seeing absolutely no replies.
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Post by Art Morte Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:18 am

The big question is, and one I haven't seen a definite answer to, are we going to do anything or just let it slide?

And this really isn't one for the mods & admins (or maybe RWO and Tom could show some cleavage?), it's for everyone to say their piece.
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Post by Lucifer Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:26 am

We are going to tune in everyday and post.
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Post by Robespierre Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:32 am

this is a year where all the most supported team except Barca are being bad .. Chelsea in the worst Abramovich year ( fought even for relegation some months) , Arsenal fans NEVER been so intolerant towards Wenger, United fans feel worse than under Moyes, Real aren't having a worthy year, Liverpool were bad, Milan meh (I'd say even us, if we aren't 3 on this forum . nay 2 Laughing ) . The performances of your club are a relevant factor to entice you to write the  posts.It's not easy to write about football or about how much your club is shite in  certain moments. This doesn't mean you should stop to write of course..

Anyway , for me also the only problem is the inactivity here.

Never been annoyed for " banters" , not even seemed excessive for me.
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Post by CBarca Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:18 am

Mods and admins aren't stepping in much imo because it's quite right to let the posters of the forum discuss amongst themselves the issues of this forum.
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Post by Thimmy Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:36 am

@Robespierre wrote:this is a year where all the most supported team except Barca are being bad .. Chelsea in the worst Abramovich year ( fought even for relegation some months) , Arsenal fans NEVER been so intolerant towards Wenger, United fans feel worse than under Moyes, Real aren't having a worthy year, Liverpool were bad, Milan meh (I'd say even us, if we aren't 3 on this forum . nay 2 Laughing ) . The performances of your club are a relevant factor to entice you to write the  posts.It's not easy to write about football or about how much your club is shite in  certain moments. This doesn't mean you should stop to write of course..

Anyway , for me also the only problem is the inactivity here.

Never been annoyed for " banters" , not even seemed excessive for me.


The trolling has been really bad in the past Razz Like I stated in a previous post, if there's anything that's gotten better on here, it's the banter/trolling. It's more light-hearted, nowadays, and I wouldn't really categorize any of the current members as trolls.. just occasional attention wh-res, something I'm also guilty of being sometimes. I don't post a lot in the general section, but I can't remember the last time someone went out of their way to hijack a thread to such an extent that a constructive discussion that was actually going somewhere, turned into complete banter.

I'm definitely a fan of banter, but there have been times in the past when there were more trolls fighting for peoples' attention, than there were people willing to discuss football. It's during those times that you just want to put all of the try-hard trolls and their fanboys in a room and have them wear each other out Razz I honestly wouldn't complain if Cyberman had still been around. That guy cracked me up on several occasions. I wouldn't want all of the trolls back, though. Might as well make this a Youtube channel, if they do.
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:03 am

@CBarca wrote:Mods and admins aren't stepping in much imo because it's quite right to let the posters of the forum discuss amongst themselves the issues of this forum.

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Post by Art Morte Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:11 pm

Plus it's not the admins' and mods' job to bring new people in, their job is to moderate the people who are in.
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Post by Guest Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:38 pm

Mole, there are a lot of topics in the hub I would consider dead if we are judging by your standards. I often post in there and have to wait a day (sometimes days) to get a response. You guys do a really good job of keeping certain threads consistent, but is argue a majority are not that active.

The hub used to be one of the most Poppin' places in the forum. Maybe I'll experiment musing in that bad boy and see what kind of response the thread gets.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:08 pm

The banter argument again Laughing


Nobody wants to come home from a 10 hour shift and unwind by coming on to GL and having an in depth 2 hour long discussion about x managers footballing philosophy ffs if 'banter' was off the table GL would be dead in 2 Weeks tops guaranteed.

Like it's been pointed out the banter free clean debate section is deader than Chris Benoit.
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Post by Freeza Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:36 pm

@Tomwin Lannister wrote:The banter argument again Laughing


Nobody wants to come home from a 10 hour shift and unwind by coming on to GL and having an in depth 2 hour long discussion about x managers footballing philosophy ffs if 'banter' was off the table GL would be dead in 2 Weeks tops guaranteed.

Like it's been pointed out the banter free clean debate section is deader than Chris Benoit.


rofl

Acting as if Ben-wah is dead Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:39 pm

Tom giving up on the angle already Sad

He's coming back at WM to help Shane imo.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:55 pm

Benoit's dead brahs believe it





But that doesn't mean he's not undead
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:58 pm

Can't wait for the deadman vs deadman feud tbh.
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Post by B-Mac Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:24 pm

guys stop the banter you're ruining GL (:
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Post by Onyx Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:13 pm

I have no problem with the 'banter' aspect. It worked for this forum. However as I said earlier in the thread, keeping things serious is probably a better idea in terms of longevity.

Personally, I always get bored of everything I do after a while. I'm usually really dedicated, even obsessed to a point in everything I do, which is why I was super active at one point. However after I've had my fill and the novelty wears off, I start losing interest and sometimes abandon the activity altogether. Maybe that's the case for a lot of people?

Whatever the case, proactivity is the best solution here. Sitting back and doing nothing isn't going to help. Me? I would basically give the forum a makeover and start a new era. Start promoting the heck out of the forum etc. Use the clean debate section rules for the new general section. A complete transformation of the forum would most definitely entice me.
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Post by guest7 Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:55 pm

Honestly the best idea for this forum is to remove chat so more gets discussed in threads. Plus Goal.com was way better because we didn't have chat.

TBH I'd make a La Liga section instead of a Barca + Madrid for better discussions. The Barca posters on this forum are the best posters. Madrid are the worst. They can even each other out drinking
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