Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 17

by Onyx Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:58 pm

Time to get my rapping boots out. hmm

Yo, yo, yo, you're a 15 time champ and leader of the Cenation
But all your fans are still on their play-station

You think you're the man and the top face
No, your just a big fruity coloured waste of space

Hustle loyalty and respect, that's just brainless
You think your're the champ, but you're a big fat anus

You're time is now, that's what you say
Little do you know, it'll be soon time for you to pray

Everyone's sick and tired of your lame stale gimmick
So I think it's time you stopped sucking Vince's dick

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:59 pm

FFS why are we not hip hop icons

Drop me a beat somebody i'ma freestyle this shit

by Onyx Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:24 pm

by Onyx Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:34 pm

The Rock's rap on Cena. Proud

by RealGunner Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:51 pm

Rock got ruined. Crowd couldn't boo Cena for that lmao

by Onyx Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:52 pm

Cena coming out looking like a heel during that rap. Proud

by RealGunner Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:53 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Wow, I thought Triple H was making all the right decisions, seems like it's Vince who's right this time.

I agree, anyone with a foreign accent usually suck at promos. Adam Rose sucks, AJ Lee is superior to Paige and Cesaro is boring.

While Paul Levesque, famously known as Triple H, may be gaining in influence and gearing up to take over WWE from father-in-law Vince McMahon one day, the passing of the torch has yet to officially happen.

McMahon is still "in charge," as it were, even if you would assume his influence is decreasing as Triple H takes over. This odd power-sharing situation is causing increasing confusion, with certain wrestlers being pushed, then falling down the card suddenly. Some of these frustrating 'Start-and-Stop' pushes can be attributed to Triple H and Vince's differing views on wrestlers.

Dave Meltzer mentioned in his subscribers-only Wrestling Observer Newsletter back in May that many people in WWE aren't sure who is supposed to have the final word: "It's been noted to us what an impossible position Paul Levesque has been put in when it comes to talent relations, because Vince McMahon is still the guy making all the final calls, and he changes his mind frequently. It's become a big frustration of talent that they are told a certain direction by Levesque, and then Levesque is put in the position of having to get with the talent again and explain that what he told them before isn't happening."

Of WWE talent Triple H and Vince don't see eye-to-eye on, two names that come to mind are Paige and AJ Lee. It is said that Triple H "infinitely" prefers Paige to AJ, whereas Vince likes AJ much more than Paige.

Triple H adores Paige, so much so that he willing to get her over at all costs, even at the expense of AJ. The 21-year-old is a product of the WWE Performance Center, which many call Triple H's "baby." His reputation as an executive is riding on the line with the success of WWE's developmental program and the last thing he would want is for "his" guys and girls to flop. Fortunately, after some rough patches, Paige appears to be coming into her own as the star she was projected to be when the company first signed her.

Vince, on the otherhand, doesn't "get" Paige and isn't a fan of her alternative look. In only her second week on Raw, JBL made fun of pale skin, and it can only be assumed that the remark was directed by Vince via headset. Why WWE, or Vince if you will, feel the need to bury their own talent, I have no idea.

Another likely reason for Vince not digging Paige too much is her accent, which is quite thick. It is said that WWE's lead producer, Kevin Dunn, HATES accents. This is a big reason why he's not in favor of certain wrestlers, which includes Adam Rose, Justin Gabriel and Sheamus. And when Dunn doesn't like certain wrestlers, he gets in Vince's ear and buries them.

It was also reported recently that of other WWE Superstars Triple H and Vince don't see eye-to-eye on, Adam Rose is a "Triple H Guy" whereas Vince isn't a fan. It's the same thing, but to a lesser extent, with Cesaro.

Although Rose remains undefeated, his push has been irregular thus far. He'll appear on WWE's top-line shows one week, and relegated to WWE Superstars or dark match duty the next. Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer reported recently that Vince's right-hand man, Kevin Dunn buried Rose, which could affect how Vince sees him. Figure Four Weekly editor Bryan Alvarez reported recently that Dunn hates accents, which could explain why he dislikes the South African native.

Cesaro has been subject to those 'Start-and-Stop' pushes as much as anyone. He'll be put over as a big deal one week and portrayed as a non-entity the next. This is in large part due to Vince just not being too into him. Meltzer reported last year that he finds the Swiss grappler to be "boring." This is why his spot on the card fell following a lengthy United States Championship reign.

With WWE stars, Vince's standpoint often comes down to whether he make money off of him or at least fall in line with his preferences. If a wrestler doesn't fit either bill, he or she won't truly be accepted by him.

Source: PWPIX

Vince built this empire lol. He knows his shit even after 50 years.

by Onyx Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:54 pm

Agreed. Triple H is still a rookie imo.

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:54 pm

Vince is wrong to ruin Cesaro though

Not a big fan but his in-ring work is 10x better to watch than almost all the wrestlers who are directly above him in the pecking order.

by RealGunner Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:55 pm

Also. Nation of Domination 2.0 rofl

lasted 5 minutes combined rofl

by Onyx Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:55 pm

Cesaro's a decent midcarder imo, not good enough to main event though.

by Onyx Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:55 pm

NOD had potential imo.

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:55 pm

Also reports ages ago said Vince was the one who wanted to bring Rose and some other scrub to the main roster then was angry after they flopped

He WAS a decision making GOD back in the day, he's losing his touch rapidly now though.

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:56 pm

RealGunner wrote:Also. Nation of Domination 2.0

lasted 5 minutes combined

LMFAOOOOOOOOO there ONLY appearance was when they formed as a group

That was it rofl

10/10 would watch Raw re-runs to see them again

by RealGunner Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:56 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Vince is wrong to ruin Cesaro though

Not a big fan but his in-ring work is 10x better to watch than almost all the wrestlers who are directly above him in the pecking order.

Pairing him with Heyman was a shit move. Killing his face turn was even worse.

by Onyx Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:57 pm

Triple H likes NXT guys with no personality imo.

by Onyx Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:58 pm

Cesaro was only over because of the swing and 'we the people chant' imo, just like Swagger. hmm

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:58 pm

Apparantly Cesaro pushed for the Heyman move

Although nobody predicted that he'd be a stand in excuse for Heyman to appear and talk about lesnar without literally having segments all on his own.

by RealGunner Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:59 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Also reports ages ago said Vince was the one who wanted to bring Rose and some other scrub to the main roster then was angry after they flopped

He WAS a decision making GOD back in the day, he's losing his touch rapidly now though.

He is more of an entertainment guy to put over segments like vickie throwing on Steph etc, HHH favours wrestling mostly.

Both are great though.

by Tomwin Lannister Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:00 pm

Vince is a legit fan of the el torrito segments as well lmfao

He focuses on the entertainment side yeah, but a lot of the entertainment side is the pure cringe side that we all laugh at on a Weekly basis.