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Post by sportsczy Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:04 pm

@futbol_bill wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:http://www.espnfc.com/player/154446/alvaro-morata

23 games all comps (17 starts)...  9 goals and 0 assists.  Not horrible.  But not very good either.  It's about Morata's level.  If he plays 45+ games, he gets you 15-20 goals.

The issue with him is that, technically, he's poor. So he needs his confidence to be at a maximum to have any effectiveness since he can't rely on his technique.

THAT SAID, Atleti don't care about scoring from the CF. He's there more to occupy the CBs, hold the ball and create a threat on the counter. Morata is horrible at holding the ball... but he's decent at the other two.


Where are you guys getting stats? I see him 11 liga games, 3 Cl and the uefa super cup!

The worry isn’t his production, it’s his injuries and at his age there’s bound to be more plus recovery is not what it was under 30. He’s had three separate injuries so far and the latest, his foot has had him out for over a month. Not sure when he will be back.

Add community shield (CC), FA cup (FAC) and Europa to EPL (Prem). These are all official competitions.

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Post by Art Morte Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:26 pm

@sportsczy wrote:
@futbol_bill wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:http://www.espnfc.com/player/154446/alvaro-morata

23 games all comps (17 starts)...  9 goals and 0 assists.  Not horrible.  But not very good either.  It's about Morata's level.  If he plays 45+ games, he gets you 15-20 goals.

The issue with him is that, technically, he's poor. So he needs his confidence to be at a maximum to have any effectiveness since he can't rely on his technique.

THAT SAID, Atleti don't care about scoring from the CF. He's there more to occupy the CBs, hold the ball and create a threat on the counter. Morata is horrible at holding the ball... but he's decent at the other two.


Where are you guys getting stats? I see him 11 liga games, 3 Cl and the uefa super cup!

The worry isn’t his production, it’s his injuries and at his age there’s bound to be more plus recovery is not what it was under 30. He’s had three separate injuries so far and the latest, his foot has had him out for over a month. Not sure when he will be back.

Add community shield (CC), FA cup (FAC) and Europa to EPL (Prem). These are all official competitions.


You guys are talking about different players, lol. Gg, guys, gg.

Sporty was talking about Morata, saying his stats aren't terrible, but he really has been an awful fit for Chelsea.

Bill and I were talking about Diego Costa. Bill pointed out that Costa has 4 goals in 15 apps this season, but that's all competitions. I don't care about European group stage of domestic cups. anyone can shine there. Costa has 1 goal in 11 apps in LA LIGA this season and overall 4 goals in 26 apps in LA LIGA for Atletico. Injuries or not, that's spanning two seasons and is just horrible for a striker who averaged more than 0.5 goals-per-game in the Premier League.

What happened to him???
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Post by sportsczy Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:37 pm

ahhhhh  lololol.

Watching Atleti.... he used to be pretty quick and fast.  Not blindingly so.  But he would get past guys and stay in front of them.  He's lost a step there.  He hasn't adjusted his style and, unfortunately for him, he just doesn't get good looks anymore. As Bill mentioned, he gets injured a lot and that's taken its toll.

Finally, there aren't a ton of shots playing for Atleti.  The main scorer is Griezmann.  So Costa is left with very few opportunities to compound the problem.

My observations.
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Post by futbol_bill Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:41 pm

As I said, injuries is the problem. ( I'm of course referring to Costa).

with the latest injury, the concern is when he will be back and how effective will he be!

However, I think this deal won't happen! It seems Morata has demanded to both Barcelona and Atleti that he wants guaranteed starter minutes!!! Good luck with that!!!

This guy has demonstrated now on 3 separate clubs that he is not starter material and he now comes out with that negotiation play??
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:19 pm

Signed for 80 mil then 18 months after, loaned for 18 months with no obligation to buy.

Marinara needs to go back to the kitchen


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Post by Firenze Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:16 pm

this has to rank up there among one of the worst pieces of business of all time, surely?
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Post by Art Morte Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:24 pm

Possibly yes, given that every man and their dog could see that Morata was not a striker that could lead a top Premier League team. Seriously, if every active GL poster was asked that "should Chelsea sign Morata for 80m to be their starting striker" I'd like to think most would have said 'no'. It was so obvious.
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Post by Blue Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:28 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Signed for 80 mil then 18 months after, loaned for 18 months with no obligation to buy.

Marinara needs to go back to the kitchen


Its was 58m plus add on that could rise to 80m, probably didn't hit many of those add ons if any. Still ridiculous fee, but lets not exaggerate.

We are receiving 8m up front, and there is an option for sell at 40m.

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Post by Blue Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:33 am

@Firenze wrote:this has to rank up there among one of the worst pieces of business of all time, surely?


Lukaku signing is surely is up there no? 75m pounds plus add ons that would rise to 90m.
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Post by Firenze Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:35 am

Nah because we'll recoup at least 40m on him, that's bad business too but not on par with Morata IMO
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Post by Blue Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:39 am

@Firenze wrote:Nah because we'll recoup at least 40m on him, that's bad business too but not on par with Morata IMO


Well lets see how Morata performs, La liga and his home country fits his soft ass much better. Atletico style fits him much better.

Looking like we will recoup our money on Bakayoko, Milan seems very happy with him. Hopping this mental midget can do the same.
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Post by FennecFox7 Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:12 am

Morata is the weakest player I've ever seen. Don't be fooled by that 6'3 frame. On top of that his runs are very poor. Still. He will do well in a counter attacking scheme. He has plenty of pace to burn and is a threat in the air, especially with space. For all of moratas faults, he wasn't getting good crosses or solid balls in behind, due to a multitude of factors.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 pm

Atletico was undefeated in 5 months and then they signed this guy and lost rofl
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Post by elfmeter Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:34 pm

That is too bad, I was kinda hoping he would do well. Sometimes I just like to see those clumsyish strikers come through.
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Post by danyjr Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:30 pm

Scored 2 for Atlético today :bow:
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:38 pm

wait a minute



what? Patetico have not paid you? rofl what a bunch of jabronis. imagine threatening a team that you will recall Morata rofl

Patetico will offer 20 millions to take him from Chelsea, what a swindle rofl

Marina what are you doing? rofl
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Post by Firenze Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:50 pm

there's no way Atleti will pay

Chelsea that desperate for players they're gonna bring this donkey back

can't wait for another lowlight reel
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Post by Thimmy Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:20 am

@Art Morte wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:
@futbol_bill wrote:

Where are you guys getting stats? I see him 11 liga games, 3 Cl and the uefa super cup!

The worry isn’t his production, it’s his injuries and at his age there’s bound to be more plus recovery is not what it was under 30. He’s had three separate injuries so far and the latest, his foot has had him out for over a month. Not sure when he will be back.

Add community shield (CC), FA cup (FAC) and Europa to EPL (Prem). These are all official competitions.


You guys are talking about different players, lol. Gg, guys, gg.

Sporty was talking about Morata, saying his stats aren't terrible, but he really has been an awful fit for Chelsea.



I think one should never refer to statistics and disregard actual, live performance. Statistics give you a certain idea of a player’s productivity, but often doesn’t paint an accurate picture of how that productivity was achieved, or how much of it was the result of the individual’s actual effort.
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Post by NeganIsco Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:45 am

Morata is actually a decent striker.
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Post by Vibe Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:32 am

Has a decent sister as well
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Post by Blue Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:19 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:wait a minute



what? Patetico have not paid you? rofl what a bunch of jabronis. imagine threatening a team that you will recall Morata rofl

Patetico will offer 20 millions to take him from Chelsea, what a swindle rofl

Marina what are you doing? rofl


Sold for 65m euros.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:50 pm

@Blue wrote:
@Mr Nick09 wrote:wait a minute



what? Patetico have not paid you? rofl what a bunch of jabronis. imagine threatening a team that you will recall Morata rofl

Patetico will offer 20 millions to take him from Chelsea, what a swindle rofl

Marina what are you doing? rofl


Sold for 65m euros.
unbelievable stuff, bravo sir
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Post by Firenze Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:09 pm

incredible, seriously

why is it Atletico always take Chelsea's garbage? and pay them well for it?
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