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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:51 pm

I disagree with that Nick... only did it when playing super-possession teams like Bayern and Barca. It was a gimmick setup specifically designed for those. We did not play a 442 against Atleti.

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Post by LeVersacci Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:55 pm

Carlo got this.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:57 pm

I get what you guys are saying but we aren't exactly going to solve our lack of depth problem we had last season with this switch. I am not saying DiMaria will definitely stay but it makes sense that he will. We already lost Morata and Ronaldo has his injury problem. We are gunning for 6 trophies and the club does not look like they will sign a CF back up. Are we going to overplay our guys again or are we buying another attacker because I can guarantee you we cannot go into next season looking even thinner up top than last. It just doesn't make sense DiMaria has to be shifted, but that's probably just me grasping at straws who knows
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Post by moutinho98 Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:59 pm

roflmao madrid are kings of signing players at the worst times...90 mil for a player that had a good world cup

well done to monaco if they get the whole 90 mil...they ripped off madrid big time like spurs did last year.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:59 pm

sportsczy wrote:I disagree with that Nick... only did it when playing super-possession teams like Bayern and Barca. It was a gimmick setup specifically designed for those. We did not play a 442 against Atleti.
it's not a gimmick. we went 442 in Cl final and pathetico were the ones defending. besides, gimmick or not, when the other team will attack and we have to defend, we will need to bank of 4 working together. that will not happen with CR on the left.

besides, 442 is a formation Carlo loves and feels natural with. James fits right in. CR continues to have his freedom tactically, he is the one important.
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Post by farfan Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:01 pm

if they play 4-2-3-1 , who would you pick to play in the double pivot ?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:02 pm

moutinho98 wrote:roflmao madrid are kings of signing players at the worst times...90 mil for a player that had a good world cup

well done to monaco if they get the whole 90 mil...they ripped off madrid big time like spurs did last year.
it's 70 mil and it doesnt matter, we will make that money back and then some because wait for it... we are rich, have no owner, and all profits go to the team lol.

@Hala, yes, we still need a CF, and hopefully Jesse will be back, but that's it. Illarra should probably go. i would personally sell Marcelo too, but that's for me. last season we had a lot of injuries too, keep that in mind. if everyone is fitter this season we will have issues giving time to everyone.
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Post by danyjr Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:04 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:it's 70 mil and it doesnt matter, we will make that money back and then some because wait for it... we are rich, have no owner, and all profits go to the team lol.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28418131

BBC doesn't lie :coffee:
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Post by McAgger Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:10 pm

Nick Laughing

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that's because no one managing money thinks like that lol.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:11 pm

pos dont quote me out of context


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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:20 pm

farfan wrote:if they play 4-2-3-1 , who would you pick to play in the double pivot ?
Well, we made it work with Khedira-Alonso and Arbeloa-Marcelo as the fullbacks under Mou. So if you consider that Carvajal-Coentrao are better defensively and more athletic... Modric-Kroos may work. But if it doesn't, then you need to play either Khedira or Alonso with one of Modric or Kroos.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:21 pm

this presentation thing puts too much pressure on people ffs.
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Post by farfan Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:22 pm

sportsczy wrote:
farfan wrote:if they play 4-2-3-1 , who would you pick to play in the double pivot ?
Well, we made it work with Khedira-Alonso and Arbeloa-Marcelo as the fullbacks under Mou. So if you consider that Carvajal-Coentrao are better defensively and more athletic... Modric-Kroos may work. But if it doesn't, then you need to play either Khedira or Alonso with one of Modric or Kroos.


yeah , modric-kroos sounds too risky for me .
alonso-kroos is the way to go imo.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:25 pm

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that's the sister of Ospina hmm
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Post by LeVersacci Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:42 pm

Always thought it cost money to see these player presentation hmm

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Post by LeVersacci Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:44 pm

lmfaooo the guards are killing those pitch invaders rofl
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Post by titosantill Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:54 pm

farfan wrote:
sportsczy wrote:
farfan wrote:if they play 4-2-3-1 , who would you pick to play in the double pivot ?
Well, we made it work with Khedira-Alonso and Arbeloa-Marcelo as the fullbacks under Mou. So if you consider that Carvajal-Coentrao are better defensively and more athletic... Modric-Kroos may work. But if it doesn't, then you need to play either Khedira or Alonso with one of Modric or Kroos.


yeah , modric-kroos sounds too risky for me .
alonso-kroos is the way to go imo.


wait, so if alonso kroos play the double pivot (which against teams who press hard is just as risky) what happens to modric? he plays on the bench? if that's the case, this deal just resembles shooting ourselves in the foot twice, killing two effective birds from last season with one stone - di maria, who is likely to be sold, and modric on the bench- who had a stellar season

imo just another reason i'm worried about the signing; modric needs to play, he's been good, u don't treat athletes that way; kroos is a new signing, so guess what? the club will want him to play. Playing the double pivot with 2 central midfielders and no one who can be rescinded to solely doing the dirty job is dangerous, i thought we found this out when we let makelele go and put people like beckham, figo and even guti in central midfield at certain points in the 03/04 season

once again not only is our 4 3 3 style being hampered, (especially with a di maria exit),even the 4 2 3 1 becomes a variation of what its supposed to be; it usualy entails a central mid and a defensive mid- the defensive mid lying in front of the back four...playing kroos, modric, or even alonso in such a role is a waste of their talent

and finally, as i have mentioned before, it looks like we are going into the season with only 1 center forward. so far, this doesn't look like a well thought out plan....my only hope is that ancelotti actually has a plan for what he wants the team to look like and that plan has room for a reliable back up plan or modification in the event it doesn't work out
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:11 pm

Well someone is getting benched for sure by James... and that person is Di Maria since he's going to be sold. The issue is that James doesn't defend much.... a lot better than Ozil, but nowhere near Di Maria. So you defense takes a hit that you need to compensate for. Also, Kroos is not as good as Alonso defensively (believe it or not Laughing).

So by adding James and Kroos, Madrid have created a lot of defensive problems for themselves. You don't have Toulalan or Lahm to cover mistakes... so it's a challenge.
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Post by titosantill Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:21 pm

Exactly, Kroos as a defensive midfielder is out of the question; imo so too is modric, whilst he (modric) works hard, his best asset is utilized more on the offensive end of things, stringing passes together...whilst alonso has more experience in the defensive midfield department, i still don't fancy him in that role especially against tough teams, as he makes some bone headed plays and tackles.....di maria sold and modric riding the bench is not a good look for the club, nor does it enhance player loyalty. many can make the argument that modric and di maria have every right to be uncontested starters in their positions....
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:23 pm

I hate on Alonso's defensive abilities, but he at least is there to foul and he is quite tough and gritty at least. Better in the air than he looks also.
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Post by Doc Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:25 pm

Doesn't everyone defend better than Oezil?! Don't think that is a major accomplishment really...
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:26 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:this presentation thing puts too much pressure on people ffs.


I was wondering too, what would've happened had Kroos missed the penalty on an open goal hmm
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:32 pm

I feel the same as i did when the whole galacticos thing started except that we haven't fired Carlo and replaced him by a pretty face...
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:12 pm

James will defend like Di Maria
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