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Post by farfan Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:33 pm

varane is prone for making those kind of mistakes.

his shit marking cost madrid few goals too.

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Post by Brady2Moss Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:35 pm

Mamad wrote:Wasn't Germany's goal a clear foul?

anyway, congrats to Germany. i am now officially neutral except maybe supporting Brazil a little bit because of Marcelo.


Clear foul?

Hummels didn't push off if that's what you thinking.

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Post by Zealous Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:35 pm

I think he got caught in two minds. It looked like he wanted to get the ball but at the same time hold Hummels off. Should have just tried to do one or the other.
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Post by Pedram Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:36 pm

Early goal from Germany kind of killed the game imo, after that they mostly sat back and countered.

And of course France was awful at creating opportunities, their only creative sources are Benzema and Valbuena and both had an off game.
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Post by izzy Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:37 pm

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Mamad wrote:Wasn't Germany's goal a clear foul?

anyway, congrats to Germany. i am now officially neutral except maybe supporting Brazil a little bit because of Marcelo.


No, Varane just got dealt with.


Got abused there really.
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Post by chad4401 Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:39 pm

france midfield flopped badly
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Post by Brady2Moss Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:42 pm

Don't really see anything special in Pogba tbh.

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Post by The Franchise Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:42 pm

Like I said in chat, its not even something you should really blame Varane for.

Hummels is just physically stronger, he must have about 15kg on him.
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Post by Zealous Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:46 pm

The Franchise wrote:Like I said in chat, its not even something you should really blame Varane for.

Hummels is just physically stronger, he must have about 15kg on him.


He probably should have just focused on stopping but he got handled when he jumped up with him.

Which begs the question, why didn't Sakho mark him?
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:46 pm

Meh, still happy about France's performance in the WC. Never thought they would actually reach the final.

Today's game was where the inexperience got the better of France. I have never liked Deschamps, he is a Moyes-esque maanger. And it was his job to make sure that France don't get tactically outsmarted in such a way. Germany gave a very professional performance. Germany efficiency. It's like Mertesacker said in the last match about playing this way to advance further rather than going out playing risky.

Still, expected more from France. I think Griezmann is a super-sub at best at this level. He had a very poor CL campaign with Sociedad and he has never performed when started for France either. He was great as a sub against tired legs. I think Deshamps should have tried Remy at LW.

But it doesn't matter now obviously. A lot to learn by the French team. Really proud of Benzema because he stepped up or tried to drive his team forward whenever France struggled. Pressure will be on his shoulders for Euro16.
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Post by Robespierre Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:47 pm

elimination Euro 2012-esque for France Proud
conceded the goal they have created nothing.
Spain-France was the worst knockout match of that Euro , Germany-France too . and it was for same reason.
I predicted Germany as WC winner before of WC , so it is not matter of elimination , but there is way and way to get knocked out , and all waited somehing of better , something of different from France..
But the personality in big games missed again.


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Post by farfan Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:49 pm

Brady2Moss wrote:Don't really see anything special in Pogba tbh.


then you probably never watched juventus in the last 2 years.

kid is 21, in a world cup quarter final against germany. what are you expecting him to do ?
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Post by The Franchise Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:50 pm

Zealous wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Like I said in chat, its not even something you should really blame Varane for.

Hummels is just physically stronger, he must have about 15kg on him.


He probably should have just focused on stopping but he got handled when he jumped up with him.

Which begs the question, why didn't Sakho mark him?

I think he was marking Boateng, not sure. He is pretty dangerous himself but not a physical as a Hummels so yeah thats a strang one.
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Post by farfan Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:51 pm

Robespierre wrote:
But the personality in big games missed again to France.


i don't buy this argument on bit.

germany are just better in almost every department.

french team is still in the making.
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Post by Zealous Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:53 pm

farfan wrote:
Robespierre wrote:
But the personality in big games missed again to France.


i don't buy this argument on bit.

germany are just better in almost every department.

french team is still in the making.


Why don't you buy it? France were playing like it was a friendly.
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Post by farfan Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:54 pm

Zealous wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Like I said in chat, its not even something you should really blame Varane for.

Hummels is just physically stronger, he must have about 15kg on him.




Which begs the question, why didn't Sakho mark him?


because varane's better in the air.

one is stronger but often gets beaten too easily in aerial challenges. ( sakho )
one is weaker , better in the air, but still shit at marking.

that mangala-kos i suggested before the world cup doesn't sound too bad now , eh ? :coffee:
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Post by BeautifulGame Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:56 pm

farfan wrote:
Zealous wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Like I said in chat, its not even something you should really blame Varane for.

Hummels is just physically stronger, he must have about 15kg on him.




Which begs the question, why didn't Sakho mark him?


because varane's better in the air.

one is stronger but often gets beaten too easily in aerial challenges. ( sakho )
one is weaker , better in the air, but still shit at marking.

that mangala-kos i suggested before the world cup doesn't sound too bad now , eh ? :coffee:


Sakho has his issues but he rarely ever gets beaten in the air.
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Post by Mamad Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:57 pm

Varane was in the air so it was easy to push him off like that.

times like this experience plays a huge part. Varane should've grabbed him or something. playing too clean has it's negative points.
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Post by Insoucious Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:57 pm

farfan wrote:
Robespierre wrote:
But the personality in big games missed again to France.


i don't buy this argument on bit.

germany are just better in almost every department.

french team is still in the making.


But most of GL members don't get it, they thought France was going to win the Cup by smashing all the opponents 4-0, they seem to forget 8 months ago we did not even know if France was going to play the World Cup.
France did great progress in this World Cup, I'm prouf of this team.
But you know GL members are so versatile:
After an easy win of France -> "France is favourite to title, they're so great/impressive/amazing etc.."
France after a defeat -> " LOL FRANCE U NOOB, get eliminated, what a shame, what a flop team"

For France, their WC is won because they recovered French supporters love.
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Post by BeautifulGame Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:57 pm

Zealous wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Like I said in chat, its not even something you should really blame Varane for.

Hummels is just physically stronger, he must have about 15kg on him.


He probably should have just focused on stopping but he got handled when he jumped up with him.

Which begs the question, why didn't Sakho mark him?


Was marking Klose i thought
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:59 pm

Insoucious wrote:
farfan wrote:
Robespierre wrote:
But the personality in big games missed again to France.


i don't buy this argument on bit.

germany are just better in almost every department.

french team is still in the making.


But most of GL members don't get it, they thought France was going to win the Cup by smashing all the opponents 4-0, they seem to forget 8 months ago we did not even know if France was going to play the World Cup.
France did great progress in this World Cup, I'm prouf of this team.
But you know GL members are so versatile:
After an easy win of France -> "France is favourite to title, they're so great/impressive/amazing etc.."
France after a defeat -> " LOL FRANCE U NOOB, get eliminated, what a shame, what a flop team"

For France, their WC is won because they recovered French supporters love.


Exactly that.



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Post by Mamad Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:59 pm

BTW Varane was the best playmaker for France lol. his long passes were great.

quality kid, needs some experience.
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Post by izzy Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:59 pm

Insoucious wrote:But most of GL members don't get it, they thought France was going to win the Cup by smashing all the opponents 4-0, they seem to forget 8 months ago we did not even know if France was going to play the World Cup.
France did great progress in this World Cup, I'm prouf of this team.
But you know GL members are so f*cking versatile:
After an easy win of France -> "France is favourite to title, they're so great/impressive/amazing etc.."
France after a defeat -> " LOL FRANCE U NOOB, get eliminated, what a shame, what a flop team"

For France, their WC is won because they recovered French supporters love.


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

*sighs*
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Post by farfan Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:01 pm

Zealous wrote:
farfan wrote:
Robespierre wrote:
But the personality in big games missed again to France.


i don't buy this argument on bit.

germany are just better in almost every department.

french team is still in the making.


Why don't you buy it? France were playing like it was a friendly.


because germany are simply better .

france did try ... griezemann and valbuena were making runs behind the defense and pogba/ matuidi tried to find them dozens of times .... they couldn't .
matuidi and pogba made several runs towards the attack but lost the ball or the defense intercepted their passes.
they lost most of their one on ones .
they lost most of the aerial challenges.

it had nothing to do with lack of trying imo.


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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:02 pm

they recovered french people love and evra is not gonna get called for NT again
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Post by Zealous Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:03 pm

Insoucious wrote:
farfan wrote:
Robespierre wrote:
But the personality in big games missed again to France.


i don't buy this argument on bit.

germany are just better in almost every department.

french team is still in the making.


But most of GL members don't get it, they thought France was going to win the Cup by smashing all the opponents 4-0, they seem to forget 8 months ago we did not even know if France was going to play the World Cup.
France did great progress in this World Cup, I'm prouf of this team.
But you know GL members are so f*cking versatile:
After an easy win of France -> "France is favourite to title, they're so great/impressive/amazing etc.."
France after a defeat -> " LOL FRANCE U NOOB, get eliminated, what a shame, what a flop team"

For France, their WC is won because they recovered French supporters love.


No one is saying France has to win 4-0 but when Mexico, Costa Rica and Algeria play with ten thousand times more heart and determination than you do despite the huge gap in talent then you deserve criticism.

I see no leaders on this France team. Lots of talented players but no real character and stuff like that may be the coach's fault but you also have to wonder why none of the players really gave it a go after the 70th minute facing elimination.
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