Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

by MJ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:46 am

beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:Giving us Ba on loan means helping us without getting anything in return even weakening his side, of course he would decline to do that. But if you offer a good transfer fee for Lukaku, which Mourinho could use for a player he actually wants to have in his team, he'll give his OK like any sane man would do and like he did for Mata.

Two different situations really.

This is all considering Mourinho doesn't want Lukaku at Chelsea next season, which looks like is the case but we have to wait for official confirmation stillm
Well I'm pretty sure we offered a few million as part of the loan, but I get where you're coming from. Mata went to United who were poverty last season anyway, and United had already played Chelsea twice so he would also help take points away from other teams.

Maybe that played a small part but Mourinho isn't so shortsighted as to sell a major player based on a couple months of play. They were genuinely satisfied with the amount of money given that the player didn't fit Mou's criteria.

So if the same goes with Lukaku, he has a price.

by Glory Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:57 am

Mourinho so far has treated Lukaku like shite. So its very likely he will allow him to leave.

btw as far as Chicharito is concerned Smile

yea you guys can take him if you want. He deserves more than what he is getting with us. Much better player who is even below welbeck as far as the pecking order is concerned for us. :facepalm:

So being a huge fan of the pea I want him to do well and get more minutes.

by MJ Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:02 pm

“Arsenal are a fantastic club,” Mino Raiola [Balotelli's agent] told Sky Sports. “Will a transfer happen? Anything is possible.”

by Chumlum Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:43 pm

Was thinking about the Cazorla rumors, which very possibly have nothing in them, but still - he did say something about how nobody knows the future, and perhaps Arsenal see his new long-term contract as an opportunity to get a bigger transfer fee than they otherwise would.

This is all just speculation but bear with me.

Let's say Arsenal got a wide forward, particularly a guy who plays on the left (e.g., Griezmann). And let's say Joel Campbell comes in as someone who can play across the front three but especially on the right. Then let's say the Ox retains his versatility but is moved into more of a central role as Wenger has indicated he envisions the player's future there ...

ST: new signing?, Giroud, Sanogo
LW: new signing?, Poldi
RW: Theo, Campbell, Gnabry (maybe)
AM: Ozil, Rosicky, Ox
CM: Ramsey, Wilshere, Diaby (ha)
DM: Arteta, Flamini, new signing?

I would hate to see Santi leave, for a lot of reasons, but if both a LW & a CF were signed, it isn't difficult to imagine, at least, a scenario where the club shuffled personnel and Santi's departure helped defray the costs of both improving the squad overall and retaining a very well-stocked midfield.

Just some idle conjecture for the hell of it.

by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:44 pm

Di Marzio says mourinho put a 40 mil price tag on Lukaku Laughing

by Jay29 Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:07 pm

We've already got to sign about five players; no point selling Cazorla if we don't have to.

by MJ Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:27 pm

I also read that Santi seemed to be considering his future but am totally against it.

Like Jay said, we need to add right now, why would we even consider selling one of our most talented and versatile players?

They'd have to offer us something outrageous to consider it and last I read, Atletico were hesitant at €20m.

by urbaNRoots Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:28 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Di Marzio says mourinho put a 40 mil price tag on Lukaku

Came to post that here Laughing

This is what you get for refusing to pay €32m for Higuain....

by Twoism Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:47 pm

After that 1st half, his price just dropped to 10 mil Smile

by EL Patron Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:51 pm

Absolutely useless with the ball at his feet, what a clogger and people moan about Giroud's touches on the ball Laughing

by Raptorgunner Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:54 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:Di Marzio says mourinho put a 40 mil price tag on Lukaku

Came to post that here

This is what you get for refusing to pay €32m for Higuain....

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by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:56 pm

it's pretty clear that lukaku is crap in a possession based team. i didnt get to watch everton in games where they were in control and had to do something in possession, but it's hard to imagine how he will be a difference maker for you guys. he has much to learn in terms of movements to support the offense when little is happening. disappointing stuff i am seeing there.

by MJ Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:00 pm

Croatian press think Mario Mandzukic is most likely to end up at Arsenal.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/17/mario-mandzukic-return-croatia-naked-ambition?CMP=twt_gu

by Twoism Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:04 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:it's pretty clear that lukaku is crap in a possession based team. i didnt get to watch everton in games where they were in control and had to do something in possession, but it's hard to imagine how he will be a difference maker for you guys. he has much to learn in terms of movements to support the offense when little is happening. disappointing stuff i am seeing there.

In Everton, he has Baines & Coleman who crossing/ overlapping machine and with Belgium, he has 9 lump of chocolate behind him, I've never seen a team of supposed super talents moving ball this slow.

His hold up/link up play is not Giroud level, more physical and aggressive though but 40m lol

by RealGunner Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:48 pm

MJGunner wrote:Croatian press think Mario Mandzukic is most likely to end up at Arsenal.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/17/mario-mandzukic-return-croatia-naked-ambition?CMP=twt_gu

ugh

by lenear1030 Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:04 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:it's pretty clear that lukaku is crap in a possession based team. i didnt get to watch everton in games where they were in control and had to do something in possession, but it's hard to imagine how he will be a difference maker for you guys. he has much to learn in terms of movements to support the offense when little is happening. disappointing stuff i am seeing there.

Yeah he's not a fit with a possession team. He's not bad when he has the chance to run at defenders one on one, but he's not that good at operating in the crowd

by MJ Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:11 pm

Out of curiosity, who is everyone hoping ends up as our ST signing?

Of the names we're linked with: Mandzukic, Balotelli, Benzema, Lukaku, Jackson Martinez, Loic Remy.

Now, not all of them are possible or likely but in a perfect world where we can sign any one of those we've been linked with, who would be your choice?

by urbaNRoots Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:21 pm

Benzema, Lukaku, Remy, Mandzukic, Martinez.... Balotelli

In that order.

by VendettaRed07 Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:34 pm

Of the players we can realistically get.. Because of recent reports I think Benzema is off the table. He wants to stay at madrid, and wants crazy high wages. The only way we get him is if we offer crazy high wages like in the 240k range as well which we wont. And if Chelsea wouldn't loan us Demba Ba, they certainly won't sell us Lukaku.

So I'd say

1)Balotelli
2)Jackson Martinez
3)Mandzukic
4)Don't care anymore

by Chumlum Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:06 pm

MJGunner wrote:Out of curiosity, who is everyone hoping ends up as our ST signing?

Of the names we're linked with: Mandzukic, Balotelli, Benzema, Lukaku, Jackson Martinez, Loic Remy.

Now, not all of them are possible or likely but in a perfect world where we can sign any one of those we've been linked with, who would be your choice?

1. Benzema (easy 1st choice by some distance)
2. Martinez
3. Mandzukic
4. Lukaku
5. Remy
6. Balotelli

On another day I might switch a couple of the players around. I don't feel really set in stone. Balo is lowest not because he's the least talented, but because he'd be the biggest gamble on morale, team chemistry, consistency, etc. I do admit there's a "marquee" element about him that would be more exciting than, say, Mandzukic or Remy ...

Just in case some big Puma/Balo transfer happens this summer, though, I'll do my best to be optimistic about it.

by MJ Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:11 pm

I may not be keeping up with Milan well enough but I don't think Balotelli's been as disruptive or plain stupid as he was in his City days.

by 6unner Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:55 pm

Benzema or Balotelli.

Benzema is unatainable.
Balotelli has his mental handicap.

The rest do not improve on the current squad. Not the TOP TOP TOP quality Wenger talks about being interested in.

Chealsea will not sell us Lukaku.
Don't see AFC paying for an unproven, aging and expensive Martinez.
Mandzukic is slightly better than Giroud but the same type of player.

So we will probably end up with Remy.

by MJ Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:57 pm

Ochoa, the free agent, putting on a clinic in Brazil. Stunning saves left and right.

Gah, there are so many decent keepers that are/were free agents yet we're linked with £5m moves for Reina and £10m for Marshall?

by 6unner Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:58 pm

Saw a Chech rumor somewhere also. It was worth a quick laugh.

by VendettaRed07 Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:43 pm

Holy *^%#

Sign Ochoa. Nao pls

by MJ Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:55 pm

Has to be one of the best individual GK performances I've seen in a while, or ever actually.

Saw Wenger afterwards with the Arab pundits beaming haha.

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