Re: The World Cup Thread

by Helmer Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:57 pm

Henry dude will go furious if FIFA takes any action at club level and I am sure he wont tolerate it and take some action against it. He is a businessman and wont let his prime asset depreciate like this

by sportsczy Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:15 pm

Actually, FIFA can do nothing on the domestic front... only internationally. BUT, UEFA typically follows whatever domestic or international sanctions and applies them to European competitions. There is a clause in every governing body, FIFA, UEFA, leagues, etc., where a player's behavior outside of its competition is grounds for punishment if they feel that it has a negative impact on the brand and values of its own competitions. Legally, Liverpool would have no recourse. It happens rarely... but it's happened before. In this case, i can see it being applied to Suarez.

by Helmer Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:29 pm

do you have any example, where a player did something on international level and repercussions came to club level ?

by sportsczy Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:41 pm

Here's an example... 4 players in the pro league in Australia were charged with match fixing in their domestic league. FIFA gave all the players an international ban:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/four-arrested-southern-stars-players-have-left-australia-20131123-2y2n8.html

Rio Ferdinand got busted for refusing a drug test during a FIFA event in 2003 and UEFA extended the FIFA ban to cover UEFA events too:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1449943/UEFA-back-Rio-ban.html

by Helmer Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:47 pm

thanks
good then, BR must start to plan the season without Suarez and transfer committee must get thier shit together to get someone who can help that 31 goal void. Everyone must be so furious right now Laughing

Only Steve Peters must be having fun, that he got a very interesting case to handle hmm

by McAgger Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:16 pm

Match fixing and drug testing are on sooooooooo many levels above biting someone, it's not even close.

Biting isn't dangerous. Biting isn't career threatening. The only thing it is, is that it's sooo *bleep* weird.

by mr-r34 Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:09 am

McAgger wrote:Match fixing and drug testing are on sooooooooo many levels above biting someone, it's not even close.

Biting isn't dangerous. Biting isn't career threatening. The only thing it is, is that it's sooo *bleep* weird.

I think you missed the post in the GS on how biting can kill someone or end their Career.

But then again it was probably one of the butthurt Italians blaming Suarez for their countries failures. That premature will Italy become the best team ever if they win the WC thread LOL, haven't made it out of the groups in the last 2 attempts.

by stevieg8 Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:37 am

sportsczy wrote:Actually, FIFA can do nothing on the domestic front... only internationally. BUT, UEFA typically follows whatever domestic or international sanctions and applies them to European competitions. There is a clause in every governing body, FIFA, UEFA, leagues, etc., where a player's behavior outside of its competition is grounds for punishment if they feel that it has a negative impact on the brand and values of its own competitions. Legally, Liverpool would have no recourse. It happens rarely... but it's happened before. In this case, i can see it being applied to Suarez.

I wouldn't quite call that "typically". More importantly, are there any instances of them doing it for on the field offenses? Even assaults outside typical poor challenges don't ever receive this type of punishment as far as I know (think Zidane's headbutt); even something UEFA is involved in like the racism campaign didn't see John Terry suspended for CL games when he got banned for that. Seems to me like it would be fairly unprecedented, even if FIFA technically can do it.

by Helmer Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:25 pm

McAgger wrote:Match fixing and drug testing are on sooooooooo many levels above biting someone, it's not even close.

Biting isn't dangerous. Biting isn't career threatening. The only thing it is, is that it's sooo *bleep* weird.

I think it is more about FIFA setting an example for others. That is how they might think about it and take some weird action. On a logical basis, it ban should not be more than 5 matches. There are worse things which happen in football

by Red Alert Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:14 pm

A 9 game ban would of been an example.

4 months banned from club level is just a joke.
There's no chance we're making top 4 with this current squad if he's suspended for that long.

by DeletedUser#1 Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:35 pm

Red Alert wrote:A 9 game ban would of been an example.

4 months banned from club level is just a joke.
There's no chance we're making top 4 with this current squad if he's suspended for that long.

Let me guess, the tactical genius Mourinho is gonna walk the league ??? Laughing

by Abramovich Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:58 pm

This pisses me off because I'd like to see Man Utd stay out of the top 4....

by Red Alert Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:04 pm

Natalie Portman wrote:
Red Alert wrote:A 9 game ban would of been an example.

4 months banned from club level is just a joke.
There's no chance we're making top 4 with this current squad if he's suspended for that long.

Let me guess, the tactical genius Mourinho is gonna walk the league ???

Won't walk it, but he'll win it yes.

by iftikhar Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:24 pm

So do you fancy any players from the World Cup, apart from the obvious!!!!

by Art Morte Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:29 pm

iftikhar wrote:So do you fancy any players from the World Cup, apart from the obvious!!!!

Ecuador's other Valencia? hmm

If we're still looking for a keeper, there have been a few outstanding performers, but I dunno.

Sanchez has been good, if there's a chance of getting him as part of the Suarez deal, sure.

by Helmer Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:40 pm

i want us to sign Shaqiri, he tried nutmegs in this match at least 5-6 times

by Art Morte Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:48 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:i want us to sign Shaqiri, he tried nutmegs in this match at least 5-6 times

Maybe we can get his front teeth done hmm

by iftikhar Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:39 pm

Art Morte wrote:
iftikhar wrote:So do you fancy any players from the World Cup, apart from the obvious!!!!

Ecuador's other Valencia?

If we're still looking for a keeper, there have been a few outstanding performers, but I dunno.

Sanchez has been good, if there's a chance of getting him as part of the Suarez deal, sure.

The Algerian captain had a monstrous game against Germany.

by Helmer Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:58 pm

Art Morte wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:i want us to sign Shaqiri, he tried nutmegs in this match at least 5-6 times

Maybe we can get his front teeth done

when he scores min 2 goals against Norwich....oh wait
OR when he refuses to shake hands with Evra
:coffee:

by BeautifulGame Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:33 pm

If we are selling Suarez we should atleast make a bid for Rodriguez.Even 30 mil is worth it imo.

Sanchez + Shauqiri + Rodriguez for Suarez is very good deal for me

by Helmer Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:40 pm

So you mean
Gerrard-Hendo-Lallana
Hames-Studge-Sanchez

hmm

Coutinho and Sterling rotating with them, it looks better than (Suarez+fear of getting banned every now and then)

by BeautifulGame Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:16 pm

Actually i was talking about Ricardo Rodriguez the LB lol

Flanno Lovren Sakho Rodriguez

Hendo Gerrard Coutinho

Shaquiri Sturridge Sanchez with Sterling and Lallana rotating

by Nishankly Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:24 pm

Lovren

by BeautifulGame Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:31 pm

We r signing Lovren :coffee:

by Helmer Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:40 pm

Have we gone frracking nuts to sign 3 players from Southampton :facepalm:

we should at least wait before how much cash we get for Suarez and change our targets accordingly

by McAgger Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:44 pm

Lovren is so bad for the level we want to be in. He's not better than any of our current CB's (with the exception of Kolo). Skrtel is bad but Lovren is not any sort of upgrade.

Ric Rod I completely agree on. Probably the best all around LB available. Would be better value for money than Moreno.

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