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Post by jibers Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:14 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:It's funny how the end of the cycle for a group is always obvious from the outside looking in. From the inside the picture if never so clear and managers tend to always want to believe in their guys. That being said, i did bot expect Spurs to dip so much after  positive summer.

Some players like Dele Ali have stoped improving, and even regressed; for all the hype Son had last summer, where is he? Eriksen definitely regressed, the young CBs they signed few years back are not taking a step forward. Wink is now a starter but he is painfully average... i wouldnt want to coach that squad.


Dele Ali was injured for quite a bit. Eriksen doesn't want to be there. The cbs want to go, Danny Rose wants to go etc Difficult environment atm.

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Post by Thimmy Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:16 pm

Regardless of how good a manager is, it's the quality of his team that will ultimately win him titles. I'll never understand this myth that a good manager will conveniently take an average player and make him look elite. I've read that claim on here and in various comment sections on the internet, and I think it's extremely gullible, but evidently a lot of people actually think that's true. Most people only have knowledge about 5-10% of what a manager does with his team, yet a great amount of fans have absolutely no hesitancy in drawing conclusions as to how much the manager actually influences the team's overall results, as if their knowledge is in the 50-100% range and their emotional opinions are justified and accurate.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:20 pm

Yeah but There are managers making the difference and elevating the quality of a group though, that's undeniable. Klopp and Pep are obvious examples. Mourinho used to be one, Wenger, Fergie, etc....

You can argue that in most cases the quality of a group is more important but at the very top it's hard to win without a manager that elevates the quality of your team
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Post by Thimmy Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:38 pm

Well, I'm sure that many would've added Pochettino to that list of yours, only a year ago. Personally, I only think Wenger and Fergie are the obvious ones. Pep's always had super teams, and he currently has two. Klopp was criticized harshly during his first two seasons at Liverpool, but then I suppose he magically turned a bunch of players into world class ones hmm I watched a couple of matches from Son while he was at Bayer Leverkusen, and he clearly was a level above everyone else on the team, the potential was obvious. Yet, I've read multiple times that Pochettino supposedly made the likes of him, Kane and friggin Dele Alli into who they are today. I can't rationalize it, it's just pure fan power of wanting something to be true. Of course, coaches affect their teams in various ways, but ultimately they're bottlenecked by the quality of what they have to work with.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:36 pm

So what's this guy up to? Can't get a job? Being patient until the inevitable yet still far away Ole sack? Or maybe until the inevitable and possibly quite close Tuchel sack?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:18 pm

Probably waiting for the right opportunity. What's the rush?
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Post by Duronto-Roddur Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:44 pm

It's surprising that two quality managers like Pochettino and Allegri both are unemployed.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:11 pm

As BC pointed out, they are probably waiting for the right opportunity.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:51 pm

Just know Poch is ending up at United by December

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Post by Thimmy Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:57 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Just know Poch is ending up at United by December



I think it's more likely that Cristiano Ronaldo ends up at Arsenal by December hmm
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Post by Firenze Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:30 pm

will be confirmed as the new United manager within 10 days

RG called it
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:40 pm

3-0 is a sack-able loss.

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Post by Firenze Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:42 pm

3-1 better be too ffs
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Post by Firenze Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:43 pm

make that 3-2
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:49 pm

Still waiting for your "make that 3-4", cause I need PSG to go home, but for some reason I know United will let me down.
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Post by CBarca Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:43 pm

I'd love seeing Poch back in the Premier League, even if that means United winning leagues and champions leagues again tbh
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Post by Thimmy Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:48 pm

@CBarca wrote:I'd love seeing Poch back in the Premier League, even if that means United winning leagues and champions leagues again tbh


Said no Tottenham fan, ever hmm
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Post by Helmer Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:30 am

can we rename this thread please ?
And why has been GL so quiet about one of their favourite coach has joined PSG or have I missed something here !

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:39 am

I like Pochettino and I think he's a very good coach but I have the feelingg he will not be a great success at PSG. I don't think he's a good fit to the squad.
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Post by Helmer Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:16 am

I don't know what you mean by great success, do you mean back to back CL titles or 3 CL titles in row? Poch is like where Klopp was before few years ago. I think he just needs right elements to his coaching staff so that he gets success at PSG. I think he will come very close to winning CL with PSG but whether he will win it, time will only tell.

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Post by El Gunner Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:28 am

@Helmer wrote:can we rename this thread please ?
And why has been GL so quiet about one of their favourite coach has joined PSG or have I missed something here !

out of respect to Firenze
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:03 pm

@Helmer wrote:can we rename this thread please ?
And why has been GL so quiet about one of their favourite coach has joined PSG or have I missed something here !


There's a PSG thread:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t42535-mauricio-pochettino-new-coach-of-psg#
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