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Re: Game Of Thrones - Part 4 - *NO BOOK TALK - READ THE RULES*
Soul wrote:Forgive my ignorance but why is an additional 6 minutes being hyped so much?
It's actually 15 more minutes
The episode is being hyped by everyone, the writers, book readers so it's expected to be quite epic.
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Deleted the spoiler Urban because people WILL open it. No point having that at all
I feel sorry for you though man. Honestly.
I feel sorry for you though man. Honestly.
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That's ok sorry for that.
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Urban did you get something spoiled? You poor bastard. I really really really feel for you.
BC you *bleep*
BC you *bleep*
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Yet another season coming to it's end .. It seems like yesterday the new season begun ffs.
Seriously , with all the success Got has seen. 10 episodes? Why not add a few more ? I realise the whole thing is extremely expensive but , GoT it's not just your next big-seasonal-hit show. It deserves everything they can give for it . This way they could certainly add more stuff into the series as well.
I realise even 2-3 episodes more would cost many millions to make , but , wouldn't they bring millions back too ? They would also gain from further exposure , more episodes should mean biggest sale rights ... idk i am definitely no expert but , once you invest into something and goes well , and it has been proved time and time again that Got goes beyond great , they will get back their initial investment and more . No?
I wonder if GoT brings HBO to their , productive limits , even with 10 episodes a season.
Seriously , with all the success Got has seen. 10 episodes? Why not add a few more ? I realise the whole thing is extremely expensive but , GoT it's not just your next big-seasonal-hit show. It deserves everything they can give for it . This way they could certainly add more stuff into the series as well.
I realise even 2-3 episodes more would cost many millions to make , but , wouldn't they bring millions back too ? They would also gain from further exposure , more episodes should mean biggest sale rights ... idk i am definitely no expert but , once you invest into something and goes well , and it has been proved time and time again that Got goes beyond great , they will get back their initial investment and more . No?
I wonder if GoT brings HBO to their , productive limits , even with 10 episodes a season.
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poor bastard indeed.McAgger wrote:Urban did you get something spoiled? You poor bastard. I really really really feel for you.
BC you *bleep*
What is this last episode titled again? It's something with 'Children' in it right?
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The Children.
Hmm. I don't know, but something about that just sounds peculiar to me. Like in some sacrifice-some-children-to-the-gods kind of way.
Hmm. I don't know, but something about that just sounds peculiar to me. Like in some sacrifice-some-children-to-the-gods kind of way.
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Eventhough the title is a 'double entendre', the main meaning has been mentioned quite few times over the last 3 seasons. Specially when old Nan and Maester Luwin used to talk with Bran
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How is "The Children' sexually suggestive RG?
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What? I didn't spoil anything, right?
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Lol confusion in the last few posts.
Nan and Maester talked about the long winters and walkers and that stuff to Bran right?
Nan and Maester talked about the long winters and walkers and that stuff to Bran right?
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I assume 'the children' are the ones the White Walkers have been turning?
Inb4 'dats a spoiler from the books tom'
Inb4 'dats a spoiler from the books tom'
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nah it's one of the folklores in GoT which they used to talk about early season 1 n 2. Not really a spoiler.
But you should wait for the episode rather than me telling anyways.
But you should wait for the episode rather than me telling anyways.
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There's many interpretations. Sure, it is what RG is talking about at a literal level, but it's also about parent-child relationship, or lack thereof, or the relationship between the siblings themselves.
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Yea that's why I said that the title is intended to be a 'double(or multiple) entendre'
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Tywin/Jaime/Tyrion, what Old Nan mentioned in S1, Dany/her dragons?
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No spoilers at all. This is a post from another forum which clears the air on Stannis. A thorough explaination on why book readers like him so much.
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- Stannis is portrayed much more positively in the books.
In the books Stannis is the one who first discovers that Robert's children are illegitimate. That makes Stannis heir, so unfortunately the truth just so happens to look like a very convenient lie for Stannis. Instead of going right to Robert, Stannis enlists Jon Arryn, who he knows Robert will believe. Naturally, Jon is poisoned, Stannis flees to Dragonstone, and that sets up the plot. Actually the same thing happens in the show but people might have forgotten it.
In the books, Melisandre tells Stannis that she had a vision of Renly's host smashing him at the gates of King's Landing. This is what convinces him he has to deal with Renly before he can attack King's landing. Stannis never orders Renly's death. Melisandre kills him on her own and it isn't until much later that Stannis realizes what he's done. Once he does, he's highly disturbed and guilty about it.Renly offered me a peach. At our parley. Mocked me, defied me, threatened me, and offered me a peach. I thought he was drawing a blade and went for mine own. Was that his purpose, to make me show fear? Or was it one of his pointless jests? When he spoke of how sweet the peach was, did his words have some hidden meaning?” [The king gave a shake of the head, like a dog shaking a rabbit to snap its neck.] “Only Renly could vex me with a piece of fruit. He brought his doom on himself with his treason, but I did love him, Davos. I know that now. I swear, I will go to my grave thinking of my brother’s peach.
In the books when Stannis meets with Renly and Catelyn Stark is there, Stannis promises to return Sansa to her once he takes Kings Landing, despite her allying with Renly. It's also explained in the books that part of Stannis' unpopularity is that he specifically forbids his forces from committing rape, and castrates any man found guilty of it. This is highly unusual in Westeros. In the show, the threat of rape is played up and Sansa's fate if Stannis should win is kept more ambiguous to heighten the drama.
In the books, after Davos returns to Dragonstone he is arrested immediately and does not get a chance to speak with Stannis. He is still extremely sick from being ship wrecked and Stannis sends his Maester to tend to Davos and has Davos fed honey porridge and lamprey pie, food that is far highly quality than would normally be given in a dungeon. In the show, Stannis seems to barely care Davos is alive.
In the books, after Davos is released, Stannis asks for council on a plan to attack Claw Island, an Island that had previously declared for Stannis and bent the knee to Joffrey after Blackwater. Stannis' advisor points out it would be easy to sack the island, raid it's riches, and use them to pay off Saladhor Saan and continue the campaign. Davos argues that doing so would be an atrocity, the only reason the island is lightly defended is all the fighting men died serving Stannis on the Blackwater. Davos wins the arguement and Stannis admits attacking Claw island 'would have been evil.'
Later in the same conversation, Melisandre tries to convince Stannis to allow her to sacrifice Edric Storm, one of Robert's bastards who takes the place of Gendry in the books. Stannis tells her "I have told you no." which suggests the conversation has come up before. This means Stannis, all on his own without Davos' council, decided against it. In the series, as soon as Gendry arrives, Stannis has no problems murdering him.
When Stannis does eventually change his mind, he does so only after a lot of time passes, and he drags his feet on it. He even tells Melisandre to promise him there is no other way and threatens to kill her slow if she lies to him. His eventually reasoning is that if he has to sacrifice one child to save thousands, then he has a duty to do so.
When Davos smuggles Edric out of Dragonstone, Stannis does not sentence him to death. Davos suggests a different course of action which Stannis agrees to himself.
In the books, Stannis is a non-believer who is clearly using Melisandre. when Davos complains about burning idols of the seven Stannis scoffs and says all they burned were pieces of wood. When Stannis burns his brother-in-law in the books, it's because he tried to work out a deal with the Lannisters behind his back to send away his daughter as a hostage. It had nothing to do with religion. Later in the series, some of his men suggest burning sacrifices to improve Stannis' position. Stannis scoffs at them and tells them to pray harder.
In the books, Stannis does not go to the Iron Bank. Stannis makes due with having nearly no men and no money, and after a string of accomplishments, they decide to come to him.
Finally, Stannis' motivations are a bit more noble in the books. He muses to Davos that he doesn't understand why his brothers even wanted to be King. Davos then asks him why he want to be king, to which he replies. He has the same motivation in the show but once again, it might be unclear to most people.It is not a question of wanting. The throne is mine, as Robert's heir. That is law. After me, it must pass to my daughter, unless Selyse should finally give me a son. I am king. Wants do not enter into it. I have a duty to my daughter. To the realm. Even to Robert. He loved me but little, I know, yet he was my brother. The Lannister woman gave him horns and made a motley fool of him. She may have murdered him as well, as she murdered Jon Arryn and Ned Stark. For such crimes there must be justice. Starting with Cersei and her abominations. But only starting. I mean to scour that court clean. As Robert should have done after the Trident
Stannis is a force for justice. If you want the bad guys to stop winning and to finally pay for their crimes, then Stannis is the guy you want to root for.
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Someone spoiled what's gonna happen in the finale for me. Actually, I spoiled it for myself, Googled something out of curiosity.. the results were completely unexpected. Refrained myself from going any further after that.
You guys can easily figure out what I Googled about.
You guys can easily figure out what I Googled about.
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Like i said in a post of mine a few pages ago , Stannis is all about justice . He has justice above everyone and anything else . It's all about cold blooded justice for Stannis and you can imagine why people like him in a world which is filled with injustice. If there's one that would really restore the King's justice and the King's peace in Westeros , that is Stannis , without a doubt. I am no fan of Stannis , but i can't but give it to him .
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ExtremistEnigma wrote:Someone spoiled what's gonna happen in the finale for me. Actually, I spoiled it for myself, Googled something out of curiosity.. the results were completely unexpected. Refrained myself from going any further after that.
You guys can easily figure out what I Googled about.
oh that's sad
Never do that , never . Do not google for GoT/Asoiaf stuff. Even by searching for past info on characters , you take a huge risk . The chances of you not getting spoiled are close to zero . Even in the search tab can be spoilers
I'd say , you could ask book readers from here to provide you with any info about characters you'd like to learn about . I am sure all book readers would assist you in that matter without any problem . Not to mention , this way you can rest assure about spoilers and still feed your curiosity .
Really , avoid searching about got on google , even in spoiler free pages , you might get trolls and keyboard jerks who could spoil you critical stuff about what's coming.
Once i saw a dude make a list of spoilers under a youtube video.. It was hilarious but , seriously , it was so mean. I'd hate to come across that , so friendly advice here , do not google about GoT stuff and certainly don't take any chances with reading comments anywhere .
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Yep you can never be too careful with GoT
Like I said a while back, even when I just wanted a picture of a character for an avatar, I didn't look at the screen until I had finished typing and pressed enter.
I mean say the tv show was just starting, if you type 'Nedd Stark' In google, even google would spoil it by suggesting 'Nedd stark dead' or Nedd stark beheaded
Like I said a while back, even when I just wanted a picture of a character for an avatar, I didn't look at the screen until I had finished typing and pressed enter.
I mean say the tv show was just starting, if you type 'Nedd Stark' In google, even google would spoil it by suggesting 'Nedd stark dead' or Nedd stark beheaded
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Someone spoiled on another forum I frequent too, but I already knew major plot points. Don't care, still hyped. 2 days, I'm watching live.
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I overheard a conversation in uni 2 days ago that contained major spoilers for the final. Though i don't know if the guy was being legit or just teasing his friend
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Pretty much all of us have been spoiled something about GoT at some point . You'd be best to avoid situations that's well on your hands to avoid though , at least that.
I would say , you simply wait and see for yourselves. Hearing/reading about a spoiler and hearing/reading a spoiler that you're sure it's the case are two things .
I have personally done the favour to spoiled friends , spoiled by other people who just threw it out like it's nothing and i had to lie to them about the spoilers they had heard. In reality they do know , but in their perspective they dont. They will only get they knew it after they have seen it and this way , they effectively don't lose anything in the proccess of it .
I'd say you should definitely not try to confirm what you heard about , in any way , unless you were lucky enough to stumble uppon someone like me who would fix the situation for you . I wouldn't bet on it , quite the opposite will likely happen. Anything you might have heard or read might not be true , simply because you have no way for knowing that , unless you search about it.
And it's not worth finding out , unless it comes directly from the show .
I would say , you simply wait and see for yourselves. Hearing/reading about a spoiler and hearing/reading a spoiler that you're sure it's the case are two things .
I have personally done the favour to spoiled friends , spoiled by other people who just threw it out like it's nothing and i had to lie to them about the spoilers they had heard. In reality they do know , but in their perspective they dont. They will only get they knew it after they have seen it and this way , they effectively don't lose anything in the proccess of it .
I'd say you should definitely not try to confirm what you heard about , in any way , unless you were lucky enough to stumble uppon someone like me who would fix the situation for you . I wouldn't bet on it , quite the opposite will likely happen. Anything you might have heard or read might not be true , simply because you have no way for knowing that , unless you search about it.
And it's not worth finding out , unless it comes directly from the show .
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