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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:01 am

Arsène Wenger wrote:Manchester United drew with them in the Champions League, but Bayern Munich are far ahead of the competition in Germany. If we look at Bayern's success as an example, I think UEFA's Financial fair play must be brought in, and adhered to for the good of the game.

I think it’s a good decision, a fair decision. We have to go down that path. Otherwise, we will all end up in the street. Why? Because there are new billionaires every day, and crazy people too.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/arsene-wenger/bayern-munich-latest-bundesliga-triumph-proves-money-killing-062403528--sow.html

So, he's writing a blog for Eurosport? That's what he spends his precious time on?

And can somebody explain to me wtf this completely nonsensical drivel is about?
What's his problem with Bayern?
And wtf has FFP to do with it?
Seriously?
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Post by izzy Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:15 am

Suspect 

Bit odd his comments.

The FFP bits should be directed towards PSG, City Monaco etc. (UEFA don't care anyway, don't think anyone does tbh)

But FFP have nothing to do with Bayern winning the Bundes, they just monpolized it.
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Post by Donuts Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:24 am

he should focus more on arsenal rather then other clubs.
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Post by rwo power Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:34 am

Looks like he hasn't really understood what FFP is about. ^^
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Post by izzy Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:39 am

rwo power wrote:Looks like he hasn't really understood what FFP is about. ^^

Nah, he knows what it's about, he fully understands it when he was talking about it in his article.

I just don't see how it applies to Bayern now.
He talks abouts financial regulations, that could mean Salary caps etc, but doesn't really go into much detail.

It's all rather blunt and vague.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:41 am

He shouldn't mention the FFP when referring to Bayern's financial dominance, because they just spend what they make. But we get what he means, that too big financial differences between clubs in the same competition isn't good for the sport.

I suppose in Wenger's ideal world every club would have identical squads and the sporting differences would arise from how well the managers manage and coach their teams. Nothing wrong with that, but in reality you have to accept there's always going to be at least some "unfair" advantages, if you wish to call the financial differences that.
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Post by izzy Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:43 am

Art Morte wrote:He shouldn't mention the FFP when referring to Bayern's financial dominance, because they just spend what they make. But we get what he means, that too big financial differences between clubs in the same competition isn't good for the sport.

I suppose in Wenger's ideal world every club would have identical squads and the sporting differences would arise from how well the managers manage and coach their teams. Nothing wrong with that, but in reality you have to accept there's always going to be at least some "unfair" advantages, if you wish to call the financial differences that.

There is imo.

If he actually believes that, that's extreme ignorance imo.
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Post by Footyfan Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:43 am

Why are people giving this clown importance? It is proved in addition to being a highly incompetent coach he is also a poor human being due to his constant moaning, bi***ing to hide his constant failues.

Wenger is a PROVEN SPECIALIST IN FAILURE. His Wage Budget is close to 200M close to Bayern when Arsenal have not won a trophy in 10 years while Bayern are the best Club in the World Cup.

Only difference is Wenger, being an idiot, likes to pay scrubs 4-5M per year but is such an egoistic that Great Players can not get more than 6-7M as they can surpass Wenger's own massive 8-9M off salary, which is masssively for a Failed Coach.

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Post by rwo power Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:47 am

Well, my point was that "FFP" as it is defined doesn't apply to Bayern. It is true that a financially juggernaut in a league has an advantage, but on the other hand, this should be just more incentive to find good sponsorship deals for the others, too.

And if you look at Dortmund, they already managed to go from near bankruptcy to Nr.11 (I think) in the money list, and while that is not easy, it is obviously possible.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:57 am

izzy wrote:
Art Morte wrote:He shouldn't mention the FFP when referring to Bayern's financial dominance, because they just spend what they make. But we get what he means, that too big financial differences between clubs in the same competition isn't good for the sport.

I suppose in Wenger's ideal world every club would have identical squads and the sporting differences would arise from how well the managers manage and coach their teams. Nothing wrong with that, but in reality you have to accept there's always going to be at least some "unfair" advantages, if you wish to call the financial differences that.

There is imo.

If he actually believes that, that's extreme ignorance imo.

I wouldn't say it's ignorance or anything negative, he just believes strongly in his own ways. Always looking to play "good" football, likes to develop young players and use his resources efficiently. If you can call it his philosophy, I think he believes it's the best one you can have in football and that in a completely level playing field it would be that philosophy of his that would lift his team above the rest. It's another matter whether he is being too confident in his self-belief, but I can see where he is coming from when he's strongly backing financial regulations in football.

He fancies he can do a better job than most managers if given the same resources.
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Post by rwo power Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:25 am

Well, maybe he should take a look at Schalke then - they currently play with 8 own youth products as starters (half the team is younger than 20) and lo and behold, they collected only less points than Bayern in the "Rückrunde" (2nd half of the season in the BL) and are on the 2nd place of the "Rückrundentabelle" (table of the 2nd part of the league).

Oh, and by the way, in the last match, Bayern started with 3 fresh players of their youth (Weiser, Sallahi, Höjbjerg) and they usually have more youth products on the pitch (Müller, Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Alaba, Kroos, Contento...), so it is not as if they *only* buy expensive players, they also work on developing players, too.
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Post by urbaNRoots Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:28 am

This is particularly weird because Wenger himself said he wants to follow the model of Bayern :facepalm:
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Post by jibers Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:37 am

Pure delusion from a man that is out of touch with reality.
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Post by iftikhar Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:53 am

Art Morte wrote:He shouldn't mention the FFP when referring to Bayern's financial dominance, because they just spend what they make. But we get what he means, that too big financial differences between clubs in the same competition isn't good for the sport.

I suppose in Wenger's ideal world every club would have identical squads and the sporting differences would arise from how well the managers manage and coach their teams. Nothing wrong with that, but in reality you have to accept there's always going to be at least some "unfair" advantages, if you wish to call the financial differences that.

But then a team with better manager will win the league and that in turn will result into more fans (gate receipts & merchandising) and sponsors. What will the club do with that extra fund, give to charity!!!
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Post by rwo power Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:06 am

Which reminds me, I wonder what he says about Jürgen Klopp's success with Dortmund in 2010/11 and 2011/12 with a squad that was build for a net price of an apple and an egg. At least Kloppo won the league rather recently and he didn't buy expensive players then.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:25 am

rwo power wrote:Well, maybe he should take a look at Schalke then - they currently play with 8 own youth products as starters (half the team is younger than 20) and lo and behold, they collected only less points than Bayern in the "Rückrunde" (2nd half of the season in the BL) and are on the 2nd place of the "Rückrundentabelle" (table of the 2nd part of the league).

Yes, yes, I've noticed you've been all hot and bothered about Schalke's academy recently x)


iftikhar wrote:
Art Morte wrote:He shouldn't mention the FFP when referring to Bayern's financial dominance, because they just spend what they make. But we get what he means, that too big financial differences between clubs in the same competition isn't good for the sport.

I suppose in Wenger's ideal world every club would have identical squads and the sporting differences would arise from how well the managers manage and coach their teams. Nothing wrong with that, but in reality you have to accept there's always going to be at least some "unfair" advantages, if you wish to call the financial differences that.

But then a team with better manager will win the league and that in turn will result into more fans (gate receipts & merchandising) and sponsors. What will the club do with that extra fund, give to charity!!!

Well, I didn't mean that to be taken quite that literally x)
Just that there would be nearly the same opportunities and limitations on every club.


No, but I admire managers and clubs who see youth development as one of the most important areas of their function. As long as you don't go all Barcelona about it and break the rules faster and more often than Ashley Young goes down in the penalty area. And I believe Wenger gets a kick out of seeing his young players flourish after he has nurtured them for a few years. Some managers don't seem to care about that sort of stuff too much, but Wenger clearly does. Those overly long winter coats he wears, I bet the reason for them is to hide his hard-on when he observes Ramsey scoring a screamer. All those countless zipper malfunctions? They're not zipper malfunctions, that's the old perv giving his knob a cheeky little rub as he sees Walcott slowly move closer to center-forward position season by season. It was probably Wenger who set up Giroud to score off the pitch when he couldn't get him scoring on it, having a history of his own of cheating on his wife. That randy old Frenchman. He obviously enjoys taking a young player or an under-the-radar player and improving them, probably takes pride in it, too, and from that point of view it makes sense that he seems to be one of the strongest advocates of spending restrictions. His criticism of Bayern is a bit off target, but in principle he is right, money has the power to damage the sport.
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Post by rwo power Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:32 am

Art Morte wrote:Yes, yes, I've noticed you've been all hot and bothered about Schalke's academy recently x)
That's because they are doing a fantastic job and they are collecting a sizeable amount of points, too, thus proving a) you don't need to spend tons (as opposed to what Magath did at Schalke, almost ruining them in the process) and b) you still can win matches with the kids.
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Post by Red Alert Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:16 pm

He's losing it.

Won't be long before he attacks Everton and their 'spending' for their attempts to steal the 4th spot from them. lol
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Post by farfan Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:23 pm

Red Alert wrote:He's losing it.

Won't be long before he attacks Everton and their 'spending' for their attempts to steal the 4th spot from them. lol


he'll probably attack them for their " unfair " and "  predatory "  signing  of players on loan  Laughing
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Post by Onyx Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Arsenal spent £45.5m last summer, made £11.3m from sales.

Bayern spent £54.5m last summer, made £34.7m from sales.

Just because Bayern are dominating, doesn't mean they're doing anything wrong in the market. Laughing

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Post by Blue Barrett Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:48 pm

farfan wrote:
Red Alert wrote:He's losing it.

Won't be long before he attacks Everton and their 'spending' for their attempts to steal the 4th spot from them. lol


he'll probably attack them for their " unfair " and "  predatory "  signing  of players on loan   Laughing
He already did

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2597922/Its-not-right-Everton-sign-Romelu-Lukaku-Gareth-Barry-Gerard-Deulofeu-moans-Arsene-Wenger-Arsenal-stars-not-fazed-imposing-trio.html
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Post by REWB Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:52 pm

its such a shame, people are laughing at wenger now. this is what it has come to, why he let it come to this? i have no idea.
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Post by Blue Barrett Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:53 pm

He should have taken that PSG job when he got the offer. Well past his sell by date at Arsenal.
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Post by REWB Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:16 pm

imagin him refusing to spend the money at psg  rofl rofl 
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