Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 13 - BRYAN NEW CHAMP YES! YES! YES!

[M99]

"The last thing I need right now is another push. No one wants to see that."—Cena

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

JR is 100% nailed on as per usual.

I have said this before, the reason monster heels are not working is not because the crowd don't react to it or because its in the past and everyone knows its fake now.

Its because the heels of today are not talented enough at what they do, at selling the idea.

Quite frankly there are no heels apart from HHH.

The crowd :facepalm:Why were they so dead? I marked the shit out when Evolution's music played.

You sound surprised lol.... most of todays fans are Bryan fanboys who may have seen some things on Youtube, never watched Evolution and how great they were in their prime.

You can't really relate to something you never saw.

[Onyx]

Both Triple H and Batista tweeted the photo below earlier today:

[RealGunner]

The crowd was pro face. Cena got a standing ovation while they shat all over the heels. They were marking out for Shield but couldn't care about evolution beating the shit out of them .

[M99]

I agree with zizzle. It's the Reality Era now, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan were doing the exact things that JR wrote about but they still got cheered more than any face in the roster. Even Paul Heyman got cheered after his fantastic promo where he called all the fans stupid idiots.

[Onyx]

If Triple H doesn't want Bryan as champion or doesn't like the Shield, why doesn't he just fire all of them and strip Bryan off the title.

[M99]

Rock, Lesnar, Warrior, Jake The Snake and Hogan all got huge pops when they returned recently. Something was off about the crowd yesterday.

[Tomwin Lannister]

The crowd was crap

[Onyx]

Stephanie McMahon confirmed during the 2014 WWE Business Partner Summit that happened during WrestleMania week that WWE will be debuting a new logo by August of this year.

It will be the same logo that we've seen on the WWE Network. This logo will be used in all aspects of the company.

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

I agree with zizzle. It's the Reality Era now, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan were doing the exact things that JR wrote about but they still got cheered more than any face in the roster. Even Paul Heyman got cheered after his fantastic promo where he called all the fans stupid idiots.

Lol.

That was very mild stuff compared to what JR talked about lol.

Heels are just poor now, compared to what they used to be.... even Jericho as a heel was made to look like Kane when he set JR alight compared to todays offering.

This reality era stuff is so much crap lol, its just an excuse for scrub talent.

Even Edge during his run looked like the god of all heels compared to what today's heels do, Cena's heel run too.... i could go on and on.

"Reality era" is just an excuse to hide behind. HHH still makes fans rage on a constant basis lol, yet apparently its because of the "reality era".

Its not a coincidence that the only good Heel left is still quality at what he does.... also the crowd is always crap lol.

All they do is shout "Yes", "CM Punk" or absolutely nothing please don't act like this is anything new.

[Onyx]

Triple H was feuding with the most over guy in the company, which is why he got heat.

Put heel Triple H against Sheamus or any other generic face, Triple H would get cheered.

[RealGunner]

HHH will always get cheered because he is a legend. Same way crowd never boos Lesnar.

[Casciavit]

Are the heels the problem, or is it the fact that no one wants to cheer for the faces anymore

[Onyx]

It's a mixture of both.

People will cheer a 'cool' heel against generic faces like Cena or Sheamus.

[Onyx]

A script for this past Monday's RAW has apparently leaked. While it looks authentic, we cannot verify that it is legitimate. Also, while it is listed as the 3rd draft, that does not necessarily mean it was the final draft.

Here are a few notes from the script:

- CM Punk is listed in the WWE talent roster as injured on page 15 under "Miscellaneous" with his status as "TBD."

- Daniel Bryan and Brie Bella are scheduled to return on April 20.

- Rey Mysterio and AJ Lee are also listed as injured, with their status "TBD."

- Alberto Del Rio is also listed as injured, although he is in the script for his match against Rob Van Dam.

- Adam Rose and Bo Dallas have been moved to the talent roster.

- Summer Rae is off until May 16.

- The Miz is off until May 16.

- The Great Khali is off until May 24.

- Brock Lesnar, The Road Dogg and Billy Gunn have been moved from the talent roster to "Misc."

You can check out the RAW script by clicking here.

[Onyx]

[zizzle]

If Triple H doesn't want Bryan as champion or doesn't like the Shield, why doesn't he just fire all of them and strip Bryan off the title.

Why didnt Vince fire Austin and save himself 3 years of headaches

[larisano_is_back]

Good to see a WWE thread on here.

Will be sure to visit often.

#Believe in ROMAN REIGNS!!!

[M99]

I agree with zizzle. It's the Reality Era now, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan were doing the exact things that JR wrote about but they still got cheered more than any face in the roster. Even Paul Heyman got cheered after his fantastic promo where he called all the fans stupid idiots.

Lol.

That was very mild stuff compared to what JR talked about lol.

Heels are just poor now, compared to what they used to be.... even Jericho as a heel was made to look like Kane when he set JR alight compared to todays offering.

This reality era stuff is so much crap lol, its just an excuse for scrub talent.

Even Edge during his run looked like the god of all heels compared to what today's heels do, Cena's heel run too.... i could go on and on.

"Reality era" is just an excuse to hide behind. HHH still makes fans rage on a constant basis lol, yet apparently its because of the "reality era".

Its not a coincidence that the only good Heel left is still quality at what he does.... also the crowd is always crap lol.

All they do is shout "Yes",  "CM Punk" or absolutely nothing please don't act like this is anything new.

Mild stuff lol. That is exactly what JR was talking about. CM Punk mocking Paul Bearer one week after his death, mocking King's real life heart attack, verbally abusing the fans and calling them idiots every week, disrespecting legends like Rock and Mick Foley, Bryan abusing AJ, Bryan cheating to retain his title in every single title match he had, calling the fans stupid every day etc. That is what JR was saying heels should do.

TV wrestling villains must lie, selectively be a coward, be a bully when they can, gain unfair advantages bitch & moan, & disrespect fans

They still got the biggest pops by the crowd despite doing all of the above mentioned things. It's funny you mention Edge and Jericho since they were getting cheered so much despite doing despicable heel acts that WWE eventually turned them face

Reality Era is no BS, it is the Reality Era now. Attitude Era to Ruthless Agression to Universe Era to Reality Era. I don't know how anyone can deny that any more.

Also Triple H gets cheered, he only got booed when feuding with Bryan.

And please, the crowd generally is good. It's not only Punk and Bryan, they cheered for Real Americans, Rhodes Bros, Usos, Ziggler, Shield etc too. Aka they cheer for who they like. They went crazy recently when Hogan, Jake The Snake, Rock, Austin, Warrior etc came back too.

Just brushing off the program by saying talent is scrub, crowd is shit, heels are not good is easy for older fans. For me that's not so true. There is a lot of positive movement in WWE recenntly, this new era is miles better than the crap we saw on Universe Era/PG Era. No Attitude Era level stuff and in my opinion there will nothing as good as the Attitude Era any more unless there is something else that rivals WWE and threatens to bankrupt them again which is very unlikely, but this new era is reaching Ruthless Aggression level good.

[M99]

Sting just appeared on WWE Network. Sting was just on the Ultimate warrior tribute show on the Network giving his thoughts on Ultimate Warrior.

[Tomwin Lannister]

Monster heels should not be cowardly, neither should the main event heel really

I certainly didn't find it appealing when Orton was the WWE WHC and looking as credible as a mid-card babyface.

[Onyx]

As noted earlier, a draft for last Monday's RAW was leaked. A script for the pre-show was also leaked, which you can check out here.

The script contains comments about the Warrior being "one of a kind" and "outspoken at times" being handwritten in. It is interesting to note that the first page has shoe prints on it, so it was likely found on the floor.

A "to do list" also leaked, which is here. It contains a schedule and outline for several of WWE's internet shows, including The JBL & Cole Show, After Total Divas and WWE Inbox. According to the script, Stephanie McMahon will be on The JBL & Cole Show this week. It also contains a script for a plug for WWE Magazine by The Bella Twins.

[Onyx]

Triple H announced at tonight's WWE SmackDown tapings that The Shield will face Evolution at next month's Extreme Rules pay-per-view. Here's the updated card:

WWE Divas Title Match
Tamina Snuka vs. Paige

Steel Cage Match
John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt

The Shield vs. Evolution

[Onyx]

Smackdown spoilers for this week:

Spoiler:

[Onyx]

According to a press release from the WWE, over 1,000,000 people watched WrestleMania. This, of course, includes the 650K+ who bought the Network.

Which means several hundred thousand people were willing to pay WWE as much for one night as they refused to pay for six months of content.

[Tomwin Lannister]

What about the other 4 million who tuned in on streams

They We were willing to pay less than both of them for all the content

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